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Please fix the annoying feature when quoting someone

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    PerttiA said:

    The posts are repeated because sometimes the page is slow, hitting the "Post Comment" at that point makes duplicates. Just wait a while, or copy the text you wrote and refresh the page to see if the post did go through or is still waiting to be sent - The copying just incase the page didn't remember the whole text.

    The post isn't apparently sent when the "Post Comment" button is faded.

    This has been happening a lot lately too.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    I just open another window in my browser and point that to the forum but I only have to do that with the DAZ forum - any other that I use doesn't have that problem. But then there are so many things wrong with this forum software (not least the many, many times it just loses connection to the server) that I live in hope that DAZ will see the light and dump it. I and a few friends started a forum a few years ago with public domain software hosted on an old Linux box in the Australian outback and it performs so much better than this one.

    Error: Server Error

    The server encountered an error and could not ...

    That just happened as I was typing this reply.

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,855

    Richard Haseltine said:

    One option, which I hardly ever remember to use, is to open the post in a new window/tab (right-click on the timestamp) and do the quoting there, so that you still have the original thread in a separate tab/window.

    Or just middle-click on the quote button to open the reply in a new tab while retaining the original.

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    lol
  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,927
    edited April 2021
    On Android, I now find the editor has been replaced with a simple text box, and I have to type all the HTML codes to format the paragraphs, insert images etc, which is slow, cumbersome and prone to error. It means even if I put in carriage return type formatting in the text, they are ignored unless I type in [br/] or [p][/p] (but with <> wrappers instead of [ ]). As I said, slow, cumbersome and frustrating.
    Post edited by richardandtracy on
  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    The text box is why I don't always edit quotes for brevity late at night, when I'm on my phone. It's SUCH a hassle, and I don't know all the formatting tags.
  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,927
    edited April 2021

    A few of the codes, in all of them type < instead of [ and > instead of ]. Had to use the square brackets for them to be visible. Bold is where you need to type appropriate info.

    Paragraph: [p]text[/p]

    Image: [img src="image address" style="height=scaledheightpx;width=800px" /]

    Hyperlink: [a href="link address"]visible link text[/a]

    Carriage Return: [br/]

    Bold: [b]bold text[/b]

    Italic: [i]Italic text[/i]

    Underline: [u]Underlined Text[/u]

    Strikeout: [s]Struck Out Text[/s]

    Numbered list (Ordered List): wrap the list with [ol]multiple numbered lines[/ol] each numbered line (List Item) inside the list will be wrapped by [li]line text[/li] No need to type in the line numbers for the list.

    I think those are the most common ones I use. Note, the image one can be nested inside the hyperlink to provide an equivalent result to using the image databox in the full editor.

    Regards,

    Richard.

     

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,481

    Wow, richardandtracy, that takes me back to when I had to write lengthy documents (at work in the early 1990's) using native html - I've forgotten almost all of it now!

    Remember when the forum had a problem (a few months ago I think) when the formatted comment box disappeared for a while? I struggled to do more than [p]xxxxxxx[/p]!

  • murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,548

    McGyver said:

    Sevrin said:

    Likewise, many forum members appear to be unaware that they can edit their posts, as witnessed by frequent related multiple posts, because the little cogwheel that provides the option to edit is invisible unless you hover over it, and there's nothing to tell the uninitiated that there's anything there. 


     

    Yes... It's completely invisible on an iPad unless you rotate the screen to portrait mode or tap the screen where it should be because you know that's where it is.

    Its funny (but not in a funny way), that since 2012, most of us long time forumites have grown accustomed to adapting to whatever breaks.

    Which is unfortunate since a lot, if not most of DAZ's problem solving occurs in the forums, but the forums software still kinda has a 2001 feel to it.

    I was on a large number of forums in 2001, and none of them were anywhere near this bad. 

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    richardandtracy said:

    A few of the codes, in all of them type < instead of [ and > instead of ]. Had to use the square brackets for them to be visible. Bold is where you need to type appropriate info.

    Paragraph: [p]text[/p]

    Image: [img src="image address" style="height=scaledheightpx;width=800px" /]

    Hyperlink: [a href="link address"]visible link text[/a]

    Carriage Return: [br/]

    Bold: [b]bold text[/b]

    Italic: [i]Italic text[/i]

    Underline: [u]Underlined Text[/u]

    Strikeout: [s]Struck Out Text[/s]

    Numbered list (Ordered List): wrap the list with [ol]multiple numbered lines[/ol] each numbered line (List Item) inside the list will be wrapped by [li]line text[/li] No need to type in the line numbers for the list.

    I think those are the most common ones I use. Note, the image one can be nested inside the hyperlink to provide an equivalent result to using the image databox in the full editor.

    Regards,

    Richard.

    Thanks. I saved a copy of this and sent it to myself so I can reference it from my phone. But no promises on actually using it. 

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,702

    Ascania said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    One option, which I hardly ever remember to use, is to open the post in a new window/tab (right-click on the timestamp) and do the quoting there, so that you still have the original thread in a separate tab/window.

    Or just middle-click on the quote button to open the reply in a new tab while retaining the original.

    I also middlemouse click all of the things. One more protip, literally found it out by accident 22 seconds ago. You can hit double enter(enter button twice fast) to quickly jump out of the quote box.

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    lazier method for paragraphs on phone

    type as normal and stick

     

    [p][/p]

    where you want paragraph breaks

     

     

    another alternative - just force dessktop mode up in your browser options/ it borks scaling a bit, so if you have bad eyes its probably not for you, but you then get the non-mobile version of the site

     

    (I use this for a lot of non daz sites as well, sites being borked by mobile is not unique to daz, and daz is far from the worst offender)

     

     

    Definitely agree the quote thing is annoying thogh - would be very pro daz fixing it

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,245

    ...I remember back in the 80s having to manually embed formatting codes into text files so that the finished document would print out with proper margins, paragraph breaks, and typeface styles.   I also did the "reverse", writing large macros that were effectively full blown programmes to decode typesetting tapes for transferring medical journal articles (which were a single long data stream with embedded printing format codes that included chemical and mathematical formulas as well as genetic sequences [the latter, an interesting challenge]) into files that could be viewed on a screen in the same format as the original printed copy.  Only a single quality check pass was required to catch anything that may have been missed due to inconsistencies in the codes used.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,927

    I have to confess I still use Notepad++ to write my very simple website, doing the entire HTML thing as a text file, using the coding colours from Notepad++ as syntax checking. I did try Word and a couple of web page generators but could never force the wretched things to produce the result I wanted, so reverted to hand coding. The results are between 10% and 20% of the size of the automatically generated ones and much easier to read the code for errors.

    I will try j Cade's suggestion of forcing a desktop display. Might make things easier.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    If you intend to quote someone, and perhaps you are going to explain something or give a long response you don't intend to retype,  just write your response first in something like textedit, notepad or whatever, because if you are investing any effort, it WILL be erased when there is the inevitable Cloudflare as the new quote method does not save a draft of what you were writing.

    This is particularly annoying since most of DAZ's troubleshooting and customer help is provided by forum members who will most likely be quoting someone and with the frequency of server based Cloudflares lately, there's a good chance of their response being lost mid sentence... that can be really annoying and will reduce the likelihood of someone retyping a response and the issue potentially be unaddressed.

    But yeah... go NFTs!!

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,927

    Maybe with the $100Million injection from Unity no customers will be needed for a few years, and with NFT money creation from thin air, the forum really is last year's high fashion and now ready to be discarded.

    Just the cynic in me operating normally.

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,997

    Also, multi-quote capabilities would be nice too...

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    Chohole said:

    Jason Galterio said:

    I'd love it if when I quoted someone I didn't have to carriage return / turn off quote.

    I don't know if this is happening to anyone else... If I quote then start typing, whatever I type becomes part of the quote.I have to create a section break (of sorts) to be able to type.

    On a unrelated / related note...  It would also be nice if the forum didn't double post replies every three or four messages. And wouldn't cloudflare on replies every five or six messages.

    you need to move your mouse cursor over the extreme bottom right of the quoted post and click on the red enter arrow icon that occurs there.   That takes you outside the quoted area to start typing.

    I just had to click twice to reply to you, click to make the red thing appear and then click it... Who thought this was a good idea? Before it was click quote and start typing. WAY better than it is now. This new one is annoying.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,057

    richardandtracy said:

    Maybe with the $100Million injection from Unity no customers will be needed for a few years, and with NFT money creation from thin air, the forum really is last year's high fashion and now ready to be discarded.

    Just the cynic in me operating normally.

    Atlas is shrugging as we speak. 

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