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I looked at the ad images for the product and thought, this doesn't look like ice cream or even edible, of course it could be because it's not ice cream but gelato, I've never seen gelato so I wouldn't know, it must be a California thing. So I didn't buy it and that seems a fornuate choice now because I was very tempted.
Leliana released a similar product recently over on Rendo. Hers is for Poser, but hey, shaders.
The bit about the material zones is not correct, those are defined in the OBJ file. The MTL file is loaded automatically and sets the limited number of material properties that OBJ supports for those material groups (surfaces).
I thought this was a Bryce thread. Then I thought, no, it may be a Carrara thread. Then I thought.... 3 strikes and I am out.
I don't quite get how users are supposed to achieve the look in the picture if there are no textures. When I load the pieces some have colors and some are white. I can go in and color the mat zones, buy in the pictures the textures of the cones have swirls, so its not just default shader with a color on all of them.
$25 is too steep a price. The FG ice cream parlor https://www.daz3d.com/fg-ice-cream-parlor has ice cream props but also includes an entire environment and is a comparable price.
Exnem at Renderosity has a comparable product that even has smart props (link to offsite commercial removed) and its only $12
All gelato I've seen looks pretty identical to ice cream.
As for objects, there is no way I would release a freebie with no prop settings (I only do freebies). It's so easy there's really no reason why it shouldn't be done. All it takes is slightly more time. As for Polygonal Miniatures, I do remember a little bit of backlash, which is probably the reason they stopped doing just objects and switched to DS props.
Laurie
Oddly enough when I lived in California, I don't think I ever saw gelato, saw mostly froyo but I also wasn't really looking. Italian restaurants usually have it. I worked at an Italian restaurant in a northern suburb of Chicago fifteen years ago and that's where I was introduced to it. It's really, really good. Oddly enough, I had it every day when I was in Dongguan, China a few years ago. Some woman made it herself and had a little cart inside a mall. Had two scoops every day I was there it was so good.
We have gelato stores in california but it isnt as popular as it once was. In my opinion it was overpriced. Frozen yogurt and regular ice cream are still around but less popular. Gelato is in the frozen good section of the supermarket so need to buy it in the store.
It is only $8.40 right now, and it looks much nicer, too.
What character(s) do the Smart Props work with?
That's a good question, I see no listing for compatible characters. According to the readme it was made August 7, 2020, so I'd bet they're Genesis 8 compatible. I just tried sending Exnem a message, we'll see if they reply.
I have the set. Although even the icons for the smart props and hand grips don't specify, they appear to be made for G8F. You have to manually adjust the position of the props for G8M.
Sadly, will return this because of the issues raised here
On another note am a product tester at that other site (for a number of years now); opening tickets on 2 other items here that I got yesterday because of errors which I would have flagged when product testing for 'Otica. Just saying
MeneerWolfman said:
Ah, how the mighty have fallen.
Thank you for posting this- those from Exnem are just what I wanted- and the set has lots of flavors and a sundae too!
Thanks, it looks like a good product.
All the food products of Exnem are outstanding and render very nicely—I own several of them. And do not forget to check his clothing products which I really love.
Can't DAZ just separate out all the Made-for-DAZ-Studio content and put it in it's own store. Frankly, I don't want to waste the time looking through products that don't work in Studio - I don't want to even have to look at them. Or waste the effort reading every single description of every single product to find out if they work in Studio.
Shopping at DAZ is like shopping for underwear in a department store, but the underwear isn't in it's own department, the underwear is spread through 7 floors of other departments. Do you think that would be a fun shopping experience?
Took me a minute to figure out what froyo is. I like it too. I remember there used to be a TCBY chain and that's where I first tried it. Now for fast food ice cream around here I only know of Baskin Robbins and Dairy Queen. I make fake ice cream now out of chocolate or vanilla flavoured soy milk, (plenty of, otherwise it's like ice cubes and doesn't taste creamy) olive oil, and a couple of stabilizers (agar agar, xanthan gum, soy lethicin).
The material zones are defined by the usemtl directives in the OBJ file itself. So even without the mtl file, you'd still get the material zones, they just would not have a meaningful material applied to it.
25 bucks? Honestly, from what I've seen of it, this looks like the sort of thing that would be offered as a weekly freebie for PC+ members.
Gelato is an Italian thing, but it gets around... real gelato has a different texture than ice cream, both as a physical material and a virtual one... real gelato would have an appearance more like melted ice cream as it's denser than ice cream and doesn't have as much air churned into it.
If it were made into a shader, I suppose the sub surface scattering values would be closer to a "cake frosting" look than what ice cream should look like which would probably be closer to something like dense snow.
In the promos it looks more like glossy plastic or taffy.
When you order gelato in an italian restaurant, the colors are much more saturated than ice cream, the chocolate can be very dark and dense, fruit flavors are gorgeous bright colors similar to a sorbet but a thicker creamier consistency.
Moderators removed the link to the Renderosity product, but you can find it easily by searching the Marketplace for Ice Cream.
It's fascinating that Renderosity has no problems linking to DAZ.
I'm not sure that's true - AFAIK, you're not allowed to post Daz links in Rendo forums. As I understand it, the rule for posting Rendo product links here is like a genie wish rule. The link is ok if someone asks, "Can you recommend some good ice cream or gelato products?" But you can't post the link unless someone asks.
That's also what I understand - unless they have changed the rules recently.
they'll let anything on the daz store these days.
couldnt you just type "Ice cream" into sketchfab and get 50 or so obj's similar to this for free lol - ones that actually come with textures.
This thread is responsible for my irresponsible* lunch of froyo today. I haven't had that stuff in years.
Mmmmm.... sorbet.
*It's a bad way to get protein, but at least a lot of it was sugar-free.
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