Why is it so hard to find a single figure in daz studio ????????
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Software With so many capabilities and content management is actually one big nightmare and ongoing. I take this software already Version 2 to the present version 4.6 is still the items scattered illogically "perfect" sub-folders have no logic. And then I give up and go back to POSER that its bugs and crashes. And without the possibility of remarkable AUTO-FIT
When will the content Folders Folders identity DAZ Poser content ???
Even if you do not intend to create a matching players folder the same content to POSER at least someone creature to POSER the option of the AUTO-FIT
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The file formats in Daz Studio (*.duf) and others are normally in the folder "Daz Studio Formats" of your content library. Genesis 1, 2 and related characters are under: Daz Studio Formats -> My Library -> People. Or maybe I am not understanding your question fully. Are you looking for Generation 4 or older characters? Do you not see them in Daz Studio? You can add folders for Daz Studio formats and Poser (*.pz2) to your content library using the Content Directory Manager using the Edit -> Preferences menu. In the Preferences dialog box, click the tab at the top labeled "content library." Next, click the button "Content Directory Manager..." near the bottom. The dialog box for the Content Directory Manager then opens. If you want to add a Poser folder to Daz Studio's content library, click "Poser formats" under "Content Sets' in the right pane, the click "add" on the left.
edited for clarity. Most people do not have two sub folders named "My Library." I forgot to delete the extra folder in the content manager.
That's exactly what I meant
The file formats in Daz Studio (*.duf) and others are normally in the folder “Daz Studio Formats” of your content library
Genesis 1, 2 and related characters are under: Daz Studio Formats -> My Library -> People.
Why does not make sense will figure FIGURE directory
Not to mention the POSE or MORPH character
All mixed all messed up model should be sub sub sub folder has what? If you are an employee of DAZ3D I do not know how many customers like me you lose because of awkwardness with software content can really amazing.
And about I asked I was very interested to know if there is an option of AUTO-FIT clothes in POSER as there is in DS Because I gave up completely from DS
No, there is no AutoFit in Poser - though recent versions do have other tools for transferring clothes.
I'm really not understanding what you want, though - having the figure in a folder with its characters, poses, clothes, shapes and hair in subfolders seems eminently logical.
Your first sentence is hard to understand. If you're talking about the "FIGURE" directory within the Content Library, that's mostly for selfcreated non-human figures. All human Genesis and Genesis 2 figures and their subcontent like clothes, hair, poses, etc. reside within the "PEOPLE" directory and their subdirectories.
The main reason why the directories for older (and most new, too) Poser-related stuff is messed up lies within the responsibility of the people who created the Poser-Software you're highly praising here, when they declared that Materials, Morphs and Poses where all "POSES". Which didn't make much sence that long time ago, nor it does today!
DAZ had to follow their folder structure to make their content compatible with both Poser and DAZ Studio.
I really can understand that you are p...ed on, but DAZ is the wrong address to yell at. As is with your interest in Auto-Fit for Poser. DAZ doesn't publish Poser, SmithMicro does.
So the best place for your dissatisfaction and your question for an Auto-Fit option for Poser would be... a forum hosted by the people who create Poser.
I am very frustrated indeed the way the operation of the management of characters in the DS can not believe I wasted half a day to create one character including clothing. Which was done Poser few clicks of a button. Content endless wandering very frustrated me. And I know you do not have a solution for me but should know who develops software for the difficulties that prevent people like me actually employees of the materials DAZ3D use their software. Thanks to all the helpers and the respondents
Were you using the Content Library pane or the Smart Content pane? In Content Library you just go to the People folder for the figure you want, then get the character you want (if any) from the Characters folder, clothes from the Clothing folder and so on.
Stefan47525: putting non-pose stuff in the Pose folder in Poser wasn't really the developer's fault, though having the libraries split by content type was a design decision. Initially things like material poses were developed by users hacking the supplied formats, and Pose seemed the least illogical place to put them of the available options. The addition of a dedicated format to handle all the material settings for an item came only with Poser 6.
Characters folder ??? Clothing folder ??? Where did you see these folders?
If you are referring to clothing, characters and poses for Genesis 1, they are under Daz Studio Formats -> My Library -> People -> Genesis as shown my first screenshot. Items for Genesis 2 male and female are under the respective folders, People -> Genesis 2 male or Genesis 2 female.
If you are looking for older generation people, characters, poses and clothing that are in Poser format (not *.pz3), then go to Poser Formats -> your runtime folder. Figures, props, materials hair and older Daz lights are in their respective sub folders.
If you are referring to clothing, characters and poses for Genesis 1, they
are under Daz Studio Formats -> My Library -> People -> Genesis as shown my
first screenshot. Items for Genesis 2 male and female are under the
respective folders, People -> Genesis 2 male or Genesis 2 female.
You see that's what I mean absolute absurdity !!!
If it was built in logic it used to be like you said took place clothes under the main folder has content but no! It should hide under the players folder DAZ Studio Formats -> My Library -> People -> Items for Genesis and Genesis 2 male and female are under the
respective folders, People -> Genesis 2 Genesis 2 male or female.
I call the first clever creature software plugin for ds content will be exactly the same order of POSER You have no idea how many customers it will bring your amazing software. And some GENESIS will increase demand for products and accompany him. Think about the fact that in RENDEROCITY still produce products to M4 and you'll understand why ......
I agree. It's maddening. I've been sitting here all night trying to figure out how to find things in Daz Studio. And the program is so slow compared to Poser.
Yeah, I started in Poser 4. I think that all software engineers are crazy. I wish there was a universal GUI that all software developers had to follow so you did not have to go insane trying to find something. But that is not going to happen. Hey we Americans still have the miles, pounds, and inches here is the US, and England switched to the metric system years ago. Everyone thinks there way is better, but it is not. We just want things easy and simple. Look what happened to MS they took away the start button, to make the gui into a tablet os and made win8 such a flop that they are now giving away 10 for free. On the other hand the way Carrara is layed out is great. Poser does the tab on top for different rooms as well. Why cant we have a poser interface for die hard poser user in daz studio? Just a thought
Some of the layouts in Window>Workspace>Select Layout use tabs along the top (Activities in DS-speak)
The mess you are talking about is what meta-data and smart-content are eventually supposed to fix. However for now I think the easiest way to find what you are looking for is to go to the Content Library 'Products' area and look for your product alphabetically, but you have to know the name and sometimes it is 'The Girl and not 'Girl', othertimes, even if you find the product in the Products listing nothing is there and you must find the same product again in the main set of folders under the Content Library, eg GoFigure aniMates AniBlocks products but for finding most products the alphabetic Products listings work good, especially if you have so much you forget what you have.It takes long to memeorize the many changed folder locations of past products through the years.
I've been manually installing my DAZ content for over a decade. I always know where to find everything. I give DAZ credit for inventing DIM, etc. But they still haven't managed to organize things so I can find stuff easily.
And I doubt they ever will as nobody shares the same logic.Frankly the layout in Poser is much worse. There is absolutely no consistency with what is a figure or pose or prop. Studio is much more consistent. Everything related to a character is found in the appropriate sub folder under people. And so forth for creatures, vehicles, props, enviorments
And that was one of my main reasons to switch over to DAZ Studio 3 a few years back.
The basic system isn't that complicated:
Figures (cr2) => all items with a skeleton
Props (pp2) => all items without a skeleton, except for prop hair
Hair (hr2) => separate category for prop hair as they were treated a bit differently from other smart props (IIRC if you loaded a second one it replaced the first one)
Pose (pz2) => preset files, applying poses, materials, morphs... to items.
Materials (mt5, mc6) => presets for the material room. This library was added in Poser 5 when they introduced mt5, mc6 were introduced in Poser 6.
The one thing I do in Poser is organize V4's dials. Poser does that much better. Renaming, creating new folders are both easy, simple, and fast, and you can move everything via drag and drop.
I recently purchased V7 and after a half hour determined to find where it was I opened the DIM and discovered it had created a new library I have no recollection of on my C drive. I don't keep content on that drive so I don't recall why I would have created or accepted the path.
I wish there were a way to opt out of DIM, it's anal-retentive-ware at times and has no real purpose for me this far into the game.
You probably didn't modifiy the install path DIM so it used the default one.
The only thing you have to install with DIM is DS betas, but for all the rest you can download and install your content manually. Well, except the few Connect-only items, but they're not available via DIM either.
If there are DIM zips you can manually download them (or download them with DIM but not install, so it will keep a check for updates) and unpack manually. Of course if files then end up in the wrong place it's up to you to fix them.
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As a general comment, please don't turn this into an App war.
In the ready to install part of DIM, there is the show details check box, bottom right: you can select which library to install to - after creating them.
I also install stuff manually, but I'm changing things as I find it makes more sense to me to do so. I rarely download manually, except for backup-purposies.
Wow, as someone who was a diehard poser user up until about a year and a half ago, I can honestly say DAZ' current content layout is vastly superior to Poser. I don't use "Smart Content"...I'm just talking about where stuff gets written to with DIM. I cringe whenever I find something I like that is still poser only, even though I know that I can probably render nice things with it...the thought of the effort associated with merging 3-6 directories together is incentive enough not to shop at Renderosity or RuntimeDNA (even though they haven't really had to spread crap out over those silly archaic directories since poser 5 or 6). Heck, I purchased some props a week or so ago..I think from March Madness stuff (not an old item) and it was all under Runtime...and I almost asked for a refund...until I discovered I could just move the directories under non-poser folders) I HATE Poser's horrible layout, and that is from someone who has spent hours reorganising stuff to be findable there...and even then...it's a terrible layout.
DAZ could help by being sure to name items consistently. If the item is Michael's Bodysuit, all relevant folders should say "Michael's Bodysuit." The most difficult items are those which are in folders with the PA's name, rather than the name of the item. Categories can be confusing and inconsistent. A Rabbit might be found under "Animals" or "Real World," etc. A clothing outfit should be in a folder with the name of the item you bought, and not in the same with other clothes. If I buy a Tuxedo, I want to find all the parts in their own folder, not mixed in with armor and swords.
Which Michael? ;-) And for the most part, DAZ doesn't rearrange how the Published Artists have chosen to lay things out in the compressed file submitted to DAZ, so it would have to be a standard that they estabish now for future use.
DAZ stated the biggest problem or complaint is that so many people can't find their content once it's been installed. Instead of reorganizing content, they created DAZ Connect. DAZ Connect or DIM do not fix the problem of finding content. DAZ should take some time to reorganize all their content from scratch. Until they do, I will continue to manually install all DAZ Content.
just my two cents here.
To the OP's statement about the difficulty of finding items in daz studio.
Personally i find it a heck of a lot easier than in poser's abject insanity.
Just the fact that most clothing texture add ons are put with the original outfit is a blessing.
Trying to find any of the add-on textures in poser used to drive me flat barmy.
Now the major problem is a lack of any kind of logic in placement of stuff.
just as a for instance, and i'm not picking on stonemason here i love his/her stuff, the problem is that some of their content, level 19 for instance(iirc) winds up in the Props folder of daz studio, when the piece is a a full set and not just a prop.
In my mind, regardless of generally accepted definitions, a prop is something along the lines of a cup or plate, not an entire city or the interior of a space station.
Don't get me wrong the same weirdness happens with full poser content, from other sites, as well, i've got content that is loaded via cr2(character file) but is nothing but a set of unrigged props(props defined as unrigged meshes).
Go figure.
The one thing that i absolutely love about Daz studio over poser is the fact that i'm not restricted to certain file formats in certain folders.
Take the Poser craziness of sticking texture/shader presets in the Pose folder.
From research this was a work around developed due to some issues in poser.
But it still exists today since poser has not really had a major software update in years.
I mean heck the ruddy thing is still tied to Adobe flash player for Internet explorer. Can't run off the base flash program or even the firefox version, it has to be flash for IE, and you have to have certain version or better of internet explorer installed just to be able to see your content in poser.
Only program i own that needs that stuff.
and i won't even go into the abject insanity of the interface. compared to everything else i use poser's interface is a joke.
ah well just my rant, i still use poser for certain things, but that is getting less and less every year.