Grasp Helper for Genesis 8 and Genesis 8.1 - ideas?

innes53_4e67625942

I have also finally discovered why my V8 G8 G8.1 lips are all deforming and puffing out...drove me insane until today I saw it happen after applying the Grasp Helper...I have since tried everything with the figures to correct this and it's just not correcting itself unless grasp helper just is not used...you're the only one I've seen mention this in your post...Have you found any solution to the lip problem with Grasp Helper..?

Thanks for any ideas on this...

Ghosty12 said:

Gordig said:

It's actually super simple to use, although you have to be somewhat judicious about how you use it, as I've found. The way it works is by cloning the figure's hands into "gloves", and applying a smoothing modifier with the gloves as the collision surface. My first experiment was to have G8F grab part of her body, as demonstrated in the promo, and that caused the script to also clone the figure itself. There is an additional script that lets you adjust parameters to get a better result. Here's a test with a basic sphere. I'll probably play with it more ere the day is done, but I can't guarantee I'll be able to post all my results.

Yeah just bought and tried it out, and can say that it is a bit of hit and miss if selecting the figure to grab a part of itself.. I had all sorts of deformations of the figure going on, such as if the figure has long fingernails it deforms the finger underneath.. And for reasons I can not fathom it would also deform the characters lips too, and finally in doing this I found that viewport updating would go very laggy..

innes53_4e67625942

innes53_4e67625942 said:

I have also finally discovered why my V8 G8 G8.1 lips are all deforming and puffing out...drove me insane until today I saw it happen after applying the Grasp Helper...I have since tried everything with the figures to correct this and it's just not correcting itself unless grasp helper just is not used...you're the only one I've seen mention this in your post...Have you found any solution to the lip problem with Grasp Helper..?

Thanks for any ideas on this...

Ghosty12 said:

Gordig said:

It's actually super simple to use, although you have to be somewhat judicious about how you use it, as I've found. The way it works is by cloning the figure's hands into "gloves", and applying a smoothing modifier with the gloves as the collision surface. My first experiment was to have G8F grab part of her body, as demonstrated in the promo, and that caused the script to also clone the figure itself. There is an additional script that lets you adjust parameters to get a better result. Here's a test with a basic sphere. I'll probably play with it more ere the day is done, but I can't guarantee I'll be able to post all my results.

Yeah just bought and tried it out, and can say that it is a bit of hit and miss if selecting the figure to grab a part of itself.. I had all sorts of deformations of the figure going on, such as if the figure has long fingernails it deforms the finger underneath.. And for reasons I can not fathom it would also deform the characters lips too, and finally in doing this I found that viewport updating would go very laggy..

I now see that Grasp Helper functions fine as long as an expression is not added to the V8, G8 or G8.1 character…I have many expression packages that I have bought from Daz for these characters…

Open any of the characters with a G8 Male character alongside her. Then place the male hand into the female character and Grasp Helper works fine…no problems.

BUT, add an expression to the female character and the lips puff out and distort every time…

If you remove Grasp Helper, then the expression is normal.

See my attached screen capture.

As you can now see, the expression becomes normal AFTER Grasp Helper is “removed from the scene…So, adding an expression with Grasp Helper does not seem possible…

innes53_4e67625942

The problem above with the lips and Grasp Helper has been fixed by iWave...he has created 2 zip files to be installed in Gen8 data for G8M and G8F which fix everything perfectly...

 

 

dan_thomas

I am frustrated with this product too. If dev is sure about this product, why didn't he provide a video showing how his product worked? Otherwise, I don't believe this product is what dev advertised.

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iwave said:

Sevey13 said:

iwave said:

Sevey13 said:

Since it looks like iWave is here...I just bought this and when I apply it to my G8.1 Male, I keep getting "Error opening file" when I run the script. It says "An error occured while reading the file, see the log file for more details," and leaves his hands looking incredibly deformed.

Here's what's in the log file:

 

2021-07-02 14:17:58.947 Loaded file: Substitute - G8M - Hands.duf

2021-07-02 14:18:01.097 WARNING: Script Error: Line 220

2021-07-02 14:18:01.097 WARNING: TypeError: Result of expression 'oMaterial' [null] is not an object.

2021-07-02 14:18:01.098 WARNING: Stack Trace:

<anonymous>()@F:/Daz 3D/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/scripts/grasp helper/grasp helper - 00 - apply.dse:220

2021-07-02 14:18:01.102 Error in script execution: F:/Daz 3D/Applications/Data/DAZ 3D/My DAZ 3D Library/scripts/grasp helper/grasp helper - 00 - apply.dse

Hi, 

This error message usually means that you are using an older version of daz studio. The scripts of Grasp Helper were created in version 4.15. The lower versions cannot open these scripts. 

You just need to update your daz studio to the latest version, and the problem will be solved. 

 

Thank you for responding. I checked which version I have and it says 4.15. Is there somewhere else I should look to make sure it's up to date?

Hi, 
I checked the code again and found that my previous judgment was wrong. 
I would like to know if your G8.1 Male character uses PBRSkin? If so, I think I found the cause of the problem. Please send me a private message and I will send the new script for you to test. 
If it can solve the problem you are experiencing, I will add it to the update.  

Hi, seems I have same issue as sevey13, i find every G8.1 female will have this issue,but G8 characters is normal.But I did't find solution yet.Here is my log book:

2024-09-09 22:35:06.930 [WARNING] :: Script Error: Line 220

2024-09-09 22:35:06.930 [WARNING] :: TypeError: Result of expression 'oMaterial' [null] is not an object.

2024-09-09 22:35:06.930 [WARNING] :: Stack Trace:

<anonymous>()@D:/XDDazManager/XDFolder/XDContent/scripts/grasp helper/grasp helper - 00 - apply.dse:220

and message box shows:An error occured while reading the file

thanks