How to get your female warrior killed ASAP

cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413
edited July 2021 in The Commons

dForce Valiant Armor for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Females

Just stumbled about this armor when looking at the daily sale. Looks nice, but again: highly vulnerable and potentially deathly areas of her body are not protected. Not even by optional chainmail. And it isn't real skimpwear either. I would really, really appreciate it if vendors would provide an option with better protection so that we have a choice of how much skin to expose.

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  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 802

    Aeon Soul's The Legend is the one you're looking for. Product is resource-intensive, though. Just equip whatever you need.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,924

    Personally, the type of armour I'd prefer to be wearing in a battlefield is this: https://www.daz3d.com/m1-abrams-main-battle-tank . However, given the option, I'd prefer to be somewhere else as even that armour has a great big noise box that shouts loudly 'I'm here, hit me.'

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,186
    edited July 2021
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  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,967

    y3kman said:

    Aeon Soul's The Legend is the one you're looking for. Product is resource-intensive, though. Just equip whatever you need.

     Even that armour has quite a few vital areas only covered by leather. And from the looks of it not even hard leather.

    Looks cool though devil

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    These female warriors are hollow though. Even the camera in the scene can clip through them. I don't think they're safe no matter what they wear.
  • ShadowBox24ShadowBox24 Posts: 184

    richardandtracy said:

    Personally, the type of armour I'd prefer to be wearing in a battlefield is this: https://www.daz3d.com/m1-abrams-main-battle-tank . However, given the option, I'd prefer to be somewhere else as even that armour has a great big noise box that shouts loudly 'I'm here, hit me.'

    Rich the Daz link made me chuckle ....laugh FUNNY!

  • margravemargrave Posts: 1,822

    cherpenbeck said:

    dForce Valiant Armor for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Females

    Just stumbled about this armor when looking at the daily sale. Looks nice, but again: highly vulnerable and potentially deathly areas of her body are not protected. Not even by optional chainmail. And it isn't real skimpwear either. I would really, really appreciate it if vendors would provide an option with better protection so that we have a choice of how much skin to expose.

    Even so, it doesn't have ridiculous high heels, so it's automatically a step above most fantasy adventure outfits.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225

    RE: here is why it is wrong to wear restrictive armor on bendable parts like elbows, shoulders, knees, etc

    'Precision beats power and timing beats speed'

    Connor McGregor, UFC Fighter

    So, I think Connor McGregor might recommend this https://www.daz3d.com/neckro-armor-for-v4

    wink

     

     

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,668

    I'd prefer to think that warriors of fantasy realms are primarily protected by liberal doses of enemy repellant made from distilled dragon urine and troll poop.indecision

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,544
    I think it would be better to make a list of armour for 3D women that are practical. Sometimes I feel like that would be a better challenge.
  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    Sadly, I think the best thing to do is kitbash...take elements here and there and make up something that works for the vision you are going for. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    Diomede said:

    RE: here is why it is wrong to wear restrictive armor on bendable parts like elbows, shoulders, knees, etc

    'Precision beats power and timing beats speed'

    Connor McGregor, UFC Fighter

    So, I think Connor McGregor might recommend this https://www.daz3d.com/neckro-armor-for-v4

    wink

    No doubt!  laugh

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    melissastjames said:

    Sadly, I think the best thing to do is kitbash...take elements here and there and make up something that works for the vision you are going for. 

    Yes, combine the strengths of more than one suit. 

  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited July 2021

    People were going into combat wearing nothing but a helmet, a good pair of boots and a very large shield, so I'm not bothered. This armor comes with flat boots which is an improvement.

    Majority of the allegedly "sensible" armor models fall into the opposite spectrum of wrong by being too bulky, too ornate and too heavy.

    A realistic option (aside of the dForce Morphing Fantasy Armor)

    https://www.daz3d.com/tunics-and-maille-outfits-for-genesis-3-female-s

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  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,997
    edited July 2021

    melissastjames said:

    Sadly, I think the best thing to do is kitbash...take elements here and there and make up something that works for the vision you are going for. 

    Yeah, I just use G8 male's armor because if I were a woman warrior I would not be caught dead in a metallic bikini... Oh wait, I probably would get caught dead in one!

    Diomede said:

    RE: here is why it is wrong to wear restrictive armor on bendable parts like elbows, shoulders, knees, etc

    'Precision beats power and timing beats speed'

    Connor McGregor, UFC Fighter

    So, I think Connor McGregor might recommend this https://www.daz3d.com/neckro-armor-for-v4

    wink

    Not a good idea if your opponent is a quick and agile fighter in boiled leather armor...

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636
    edited July 2021

    McGregor is a top MMA fighter having a bit of a decline in his career. In his last fight, he suffered a horrific ankle break. It's not clear that he will come back from that. If you know that, humor is derived from the idea that lower leg/ankle is one of the few parts neckro armor might actually help to protect. Otherwise... Yeah. sad

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  • DripDrip Posts: 1,206

    Who cares how "realistic" some armor is regarding feasibility or protection?

    Don't like it, then don't buy it and move on.
    Personally, I'm a big fan of bikini armor, so the one in the first post is waaay overdressed for me. No reason for me to start a thread about how not-fitting-my-requirements it is. For some reason, it's primarily people who want "realism" complaining over and over. Yes, this is the umpteenth thread regarding this topic, and, as several have gladly pointed out already, there are plenty other outfits to choose from. Same with heels, by the way, I only see complaints when there are heels in an outfit, never when there aren't, even though plenty outfits would improve in my opinion, if they came with heels instead of flats.

    Oh, and some 90% of the armors on this site aren't realistic anyway, since they aren't dyed like medieval knights would do, to protect them against rust. Even less come with heels, to hook into the stirups, like medieval knights would have.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636
    edited July 2021

    It's a forum. This is what you do one does in a forum. And look: It worked. Here you are providing the counterpoint.

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  • Ignore the armor. Go commando.

     

     

    Stop hiding from your insecurities.  It's un(wo)manly.

     

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636
    edited July 2021

    At that time, it was also common practice to kill the injured for lack of medical care. But not always

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  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited July 2021

    Torquinox said:

    At that time, it was also common practice to kill the injured for lack of medical care.

     

      Not any more or less common than in the Medieval period when, unless you had money for armor too, you had no medic anywhere in sight.

     

    In fantasy settings you can handwave with ever helpful magical healers. If your hero(ine) lets themselves to be frequently injured in spite of having training, they might be unfit for survival.

     

    All this babbling about realism right and left, but realistically armor was used as an added insurance against the dangers a trained fighter could not defend - missiles and random blows.

    Realistically, no character should be wearing anything more than comfortable travel clothes unless they're up and ready for pitched battle.

     

    And so the realism goes outta window anyway.

     

    Especially given how all those "realistic" heavy high fantasy armors are so sculpted, thick and with raised enges to ensure that whoever is wearing them will be hurt when someone swings a mace at them.

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636
    edited July 2021

     Agreed. ^

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited July 2021

    Except the issue of heels still comes up. Someone mentioned that traditional armor was heeled to aid in feet staying in stirrups. True. But those heels were still not 5" spiked platforms. 

    And yes, traditionally, only the wealthy would be given actual armor. Most rank and file fodder would wear leather, or even their everyday clothing with (maybe) some extra padding. And that's fine. Most of us I'd imagine aren't making artwork of generic rank and file fodder-type soldiers. Even so, I do try to kit my characters out depending on what they're doing...whether that be going into a huge battle, traveling overland and just having a weapon handy for protection but otherwise comfortable for long hours of riding, or even "off-duty". I typically don't go for tin can suits...just like I typically don't go for metal g-strings. But at least I can (generally) get more use out of the tin can suits as part of kit-bashes, as long as they are made well enough to be able to be taken apart. 

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  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    PixelSploiting said:

    Torquinox said:

    At that time, it was also common practice to kill the injured for lack of medical care.

     

      Not any more or less common than in the Medieval period when, unless you had money for armor too, you had no medic anywhere in sight.

     

    In fantasy settings you can handwave with ever helpful magical healers. If your hero(ine) lets themselves to be frequently injured in spite of having training, they might be unfit for survival.

     

    All this babbling about realism right and left, but realistically armor was used as an added insurance against the dangers a trained fighter could not defend - missiles and random blows.

    Realistically, no character should be wearing anything more than comfortable travel clothes unless they're up and ready for pitched battle.

     

    And so the realism goes outta window anyway.

     

    Especially given how all those "realistic" heavy high fantasy armors are so sculpted, thick and with raised enges to ensure that whoever is wearing them will be hurt when someone swings a mace at them.

     

    No need to stop at the medieval era for horrifying medical practice. You can probably go up to WW1 for "we'll amputate it but you'll probably die either way." Although by WW1 they had sort of figured out that washing hands and the things they used to cut you up helped.

     

    Arguably you were more screwed fighting in the 1800s than the middle ages, because the medical practices were equally useless, but in the weapons were much more efficient. (The medicine was actually probably worse in the 1800s too if I'm honest, since they just gave you mercury to cure everything) 

     

     

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,643

    Drip said:

    Who cares how "realistic" some armor is regarding feasibility or protection?

    Don't like it, then don't buy it and move on.
    Personally, I'm a big fan of bikini armor, so the one in the first post is waaay overdressed for me. No reason for me to start a thread about how not-fitting-my-requirements it is. For some reason, it's primarily people who want "realism" complaining over and over. Yes, this is the umpteenth thread regarding this topic, and, as several have gladly pointed out already, there are plenty other outfits to choose from.

    +1.  I'm all for offering truly accurate armor in the store, but sick to death of people complaining about how unrealistic other products are when a lot of them want said accurate armor for their character who's fighting a fire-breathing dragon.  ;) 

  • Well, M1 Abrams is a fairly realistic assumption what's appropriate for fighting fire-breathing dragons.

  • akmerlowakmerlow Posts: 1,124
    edited July 2021

    Would like to have some Berserk-like armor, especially now :( 

     

     

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,316

    cherpenbeck said:

    dForce Valiant Armor for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Females

    Just stumbled about this armor when looking at the daily sale. Looks nice, but again: highly vulnerable and potentially deathly areas of her body are not protected. Not even by optional chainmail. And it isn't real skimpwear either. I would really, really appreciate it if vendors would provide an option with better protection so that we have a choice of how much skin to expose.

    LOL, she looks like a bed full of Grandma's pillows have reached escape velocity. laugh

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636
    edited July 2021

    This should about do it...

    Strike Freedom Gundam

    strike-freedom-gundam.jpg
    848 x 948 - 77K
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