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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    j cade said:

    No need to stop at the medieval era for horrifying medical practice. You can probably go up to WW1 for "we'll amputate it but you'll probably die either way." Although by WW1 they had sort of figured out that washing hands and the things they used to cut you up helped.

     

    Arguably you were more screwed fighting in the 1800s than the middle ages, because the medical practices were equally useless, but in the weapons were much more efficient. (The medicine was actually probably worse in the 1800s too if I'm honest, since they just gave you mercury to cure everything)

    True.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    a warding talisman, as in a personal force field shield enlightened

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,718

    j cade said:

    PixelSploiting said:

    Torquinox said:

    At that time, it was also common practice to kill the injured for lack of medical care.

     

      Not any more or less common than in the Medieval period when, unless you had money for armor too, you had no medic anywhere in sight.

     

    In fantasy settings you can handwave with ever helpful magical healers. If your hero(ine) lets themselves to be frequently injured in spite of having training, they might be unfit for survival.

     

    All this babbling about realism right and left, but realistically armor was used as an added insurance against the dangers a trained fighter could not defend - missiles and random blows.

    Realistically, no character should be wearing anything more than comfortable travel clothes unless they're up and ready for pitched battle.

     

    And so the realism goes outta window anyway.

     

    Especially given how all those "realistic" heavy high fantasy armors are so sculpted, thick and with raised enges to ensure that whoever is wearing them will be hurt when someone swings a mace at them.

     

    No need to stop at the medieval era for horrifying medical practice. You can probably go up to WW1 for "we'll amputate it but you'll probably die either way." Although by WW1 they had sort of figured out that washing hands and the things they used to cut you up helped.

    Also they understoof, or at least recognised, the advantages of anaesthesia.

    Arguably you were more screwed fighting in the 1800s than the middle ages, because the medical practices were equally useless, but in the weapons were much more efficient. (The medicine was actually probably worse in the 1800s too if I'm honest, since they just gave you mercury to cure everything) 

     

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,244
    edited July 2021

    j cade said:

    No need to stop at the medieval era for horrifying medical practice. You can probably go up to WW1 for "we'll amputate it but you'll probably die either way." Although by WW1 they had sort of figured out that washing hands and the things they used to cut you up helped.

     

    Arguably you were more screwed fighting in the 1800s than the middle ages, because the medical practices were equally useless, but in the weapons were much more efficient. (The medicine was actually probably worse in the 1800s too if I'm honest, since they just gave you mercury to cure everything) 

     

     

    ..ahh yes good ol' Mercurochrome:

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,244
    edited July 2021

    ...BTW , don't even get me started on futuristic armour where weapons are even more efficient and deadly. 

    Like this oldie but goodie that leaves the heroine vulnerable to one of the more gruesome and deadly shots that don't necessarily require expert marksmanship. 

    https://www.daz3d.com/future-cop-for-genesis

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    was once a time when the notion of injecting breasts with floatation silicone wouldve seemed preposterous.

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413

    Whoever wants to use armor that shows lots of bare skin, go for it. Looks good on a book cover, I presume. But what rattles me is this type of armor which looks almost usable for real combat, but has a huge chunk missing. It would be really nice of the artists to provide both options by providing the missing part and allowing us to switch it on and off as we prefer.
    Even if Aeon Souls armor isn't what I consider really good armor, it has this option and I have bought it solely for that feature (and because it looks damn good.)
     

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,401

    Torquinox said:

    This should about do it...

    Strike Freedom Gundam

    Might leave her enemies speechless lol ... waiting to see how it moves!

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636
    edited July 2021

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Torquinox said:

    This should about do it...

    Might leave her enemies speechless lol ... waiting to see how it moves!

    Yes. This is actually a picture of a model of the Strike Freedom Gundam from Gundam Seed Destiny. It would likely be about 30m tall - taller with all the fins deployed. There is a cockpit in the chest on these things and that's where your character would hang out. In the anime, it flies and can operate in space. Not realistic but could be fun :D

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  • TheMysteryIsThePointTheMysteryIsThePoint Posts: 3,026

    y3kman said:

    Aeon Soul's The Legend is the one you're looking for. Product is resource-intensive, though. Just equip whatever you need.

    Beware that it is missing many of the G8 morphs for sizing the paldrons, etc... They're there for G3. Been waiting for well over a year for a fix.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    kyoto kid said:

    j cade said:

    No need to stop at the medieval era for horrifying medical practice. You can probably go up to WW1 for "we'll amputate it but you'll probably die either way." Although by WW1 they had sort of figured out that washing hands and the things they used to cut you up helped.

     

    Arguably you were more screwed fighting in the 1800s than the middle ages, because the medical practices were equally useless, but in the weapons were much more efficient. (The medicine was actually probably worse in the 1800s too if I'm honest, since they just gave you mercury to cure everything) 

     

     

    ..ahh yes good ol' Mercurochrome:

     

    But, didn't they also have the miracle cure, Snake Oil? 

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,924

    Mystiara said:

    was once a time when the notion of injecting breasts with floatation silicone wouldve seemed preposterous.

    Sorry, but I still think it is. Same with any form of vanity surgery for either gender. However, I do see that I'm in a shrinking minority, and that's the way the world is going. 

    I do feel it's grossly unfair on the GxF figures that their armour leaves them so vulnerable when going into hazardous environments.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    I think, ultimately, Misty put her finger on the answer. All fantasy characters (and many sci fi) must have some sort of magical forcefield or a thick layer of plot armor that fills in for any physical shortcomings in their outerwear.

  • akmerlowakmerlow Posts: 1,124
    edited July 2021

    Torquinox said:

    This should about do it...

    Strike Freedom Gundam

     

    Would love to see more "very japanese by design" mecha products in DAZ store, but i know it's extremely niche...

     

    So far i had to go and purchase some unrigged models from cgtrader like this (imagine having model with such attention to sculpted details AND also rigged for daz...  would deserve a high price):

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  • cridgitcridgit Posts: 1,757
    edited May 2022

    Redacted

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  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited July 2021

     I find it quite ironic that Valiant and The Legend  armors are used in comparison between realistic and non-realistic armors (both of them being very high quality models). Supposedly the Valiant being the less believable one of the two.

     But The Legend has less metal covering anything vital -  the rest of the body coverage is only skintight clothes that would not stop anything. The helmet would give an epic case of suicidal tunnel vision (there's no visor to open, eye slits are tiny and it doesn't look as if it could be worn lifted to the top of the head like Greeks were doing with theirs). The breastplate shaped like separate breast cups would work wonderfully at redirecting any blunt trauma to the sternum of the woman wearing it.

    Both armors come with flat boots.

     It's better to avoid the alleged "realism" slogan discussing personal taste in 3d models.

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited July 2021

    PixelSploiting said:

     I find it quite ironic that Valiant and The Legend  armors are used in comparison between realistic and non-realistic armors (both of them being very high quality models). Supposedly the Valiant being the less believable one of the two.

     But The Legend has less metal covering anything vital -  the rest of the body coverage is only skintight clothes that would not stop anything. The helmet would give an epic case of suicidal tunnel vision (there's no visor to open, eye slits are tiny and it doesn't look as if it could be worn lifted to the top of the head like Greeks were doing with theirs). The breastplate shaped like separate breast cups would work wonderfully at redirecting any blunt rauma to the sternum of the woman wearing it.

    Both armors come with flat boots.

     It's better to avoid the alleged "realism" slogan discussing personal taste in 3d models.

    That's why I'm partial to kitbashing. Here is a piece I did putting together parts of stuff, some from male sets, and some from The Legend - 

     

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  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited July 2021

    melissastjames said:

    PixelSploiting said:

     I find it quite ironic that Valiant and The Legend  armors are used in comparison between realistic and non-realistic armors (both of them being very high quality models). Supposedly the Valiant being the less believable one of the two.

     But The Legend has less metal covering anything vital -  the rest of the body coverage is only skintight clothes that would not stop anything. The helmet would give an epic case of suicidal tunnel vision (there's no visor to open, eye slits are tiny and it doesn't look as if it could be worn lifted to the top of the head like Greeks were doing with theirs). The breastplate shaped like separate breast cups would work wonderfully at redirecting any blunt rauma to the sternum of the woman wearing it.

    Both armors come with flat boots.

     It's better to avoid the alleged "realism" slogan discussing personal taste in 3d models.

    That's why I'm partial to kitbashing. Here is a piece I did putting together parts of stuff, some from male sets, and some from The Legend - 

     

     

     I mean, it's the second time a user is complaining about the Valiant armor even if the product is modular and one can swap out any part they don't like:

     

     

    It's all made of separate pieces. Long sleeves not depicted but they're separate piece too.

     

    I got it because it's similar in style to the Deadly Warrior https://www.daz3d.com/deadly-warrior-armor-for-genesis-8-males ,to convert and slap a few more matching plates on males. It comes with no sculpted boobplates so it does convert to G8M ok.

     

     

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    PixelSploiting said:

    melissastjames said:

    PixelSploiting said:

     I find it quite ironic that Valiant and The Legend  armors are used in comparison between realistic and non-realistic armors (both of them being very high quality models). Supposedly the Valiant being the less believable one of the two.

     But The Legend has less metal covering anything vital -  the rest of the body coverage is only skintight clothes that would not stop anything. The helmet would give an epic case of suicidal tunnel vision (there's no visor to open, eye slits are tiny and it doesn't look as if it could be worn lifted to the top of the head like Greeks were doing with theirs). The breastplate shaped like separate breast cups would work wonderfully at redirecting any blunt rauma to the sternum of the woman wearing it.

    Both armors come with flat boots.

     It's better to avoid the alleged "realism" slogan discussing personal taste in 3d models.

    That's why I'm partial to kitbashing. Here is a piece I did putting together parts of stuff, some from male sets, and some from The Legend - 

     

     

     I mean, it's the second time a user is complaining about the Valiant armor even if the product is modular and one can swap out any part they don't like:

     

     

    It's all made of separate pieces. Long sleeves not depicted but they're separate piece too.

     

    I got it because it's similar in style to the Deadly Warrior https://www.daz3d.com/deadly-warrior-armor-for-genesis-8-males ,to convert and slap a few more matching plates on males. It comes with no sculpted boobplates so it does convert to G8M ok.

     

     

    I'd say a large (primary) chunk of the userbase uses stuff out of the box.  

  • MisselthwaiteMisselthwaite Posts: 961

    Take skimpwear, add a full-body suit underneath and texture it with leather or chain, or even padding! (helps stop those cuts and bruises from your own armour!) and it's not too bad.  Sci-fi makes it easier, just mumble something about super-polymers and force-shields and you're covered, even if your character isn't :-)

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    akmerlow said:

    Would love to see more "very japanese by design" mecha products in DAZ store, but i know it's extremely niche...

    So far i had to go and purchase some unrigged models from cgtrader like this (imagine having model with such attention to sculpted details AND also rigged for daz...  would deserve a high price):

    That would be cool :)

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    I like this outfit. Maybe not so realistic as armor, but still quite nice. Might need a little updating. https://www.daz3d.com/svana-v4

    Svana armor outfit

     

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    Misselthwaite said:

    Take skimpwear, add a full-body suit underneath and texture it with leather or chain, or even padding! (helps stop those cuts and bruises from your own armour!) and it's not too bad.  Sci-fi makes it easier, just mumble something about super-polymers and force-shields and you're covered, even if your character isn't :-)

    Good ideas :)

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310
    https://www.daz3d.com/ninian-outfit-for-genesis-8-females is good as a base layer for kitbashing, imo.
  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 802

    The old female armors offer decent skin coverage.

    https://www.daz3d.com/historical-armor-for-v4

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/19160/start (Battle Armour for Genesis has been removed from the store.)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,244

    Torquinox said:

    I think, ultimately, Misty put her finger on the answer. All fantasy characters (and many sci fi) must have some sort of magical forcefield or a thick layer of plot armor that fills in for any physical shortcomings in their outerwear.

    ...well there is always this:

    https://www.daz3d.com/force-fields-for-genesis-2-female-s ;

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636

    kyoto kid said:

    ...well there is always this:

    https://www.daz3d.com/force-fields-for-genesis-2-female-s

    With some adjustment, sure!  laugh

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,244

    ...yeah it's for G2 so not sure how it woudl fit to G8 as I'm not sure if it's considered clothing or a wearble. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,636
    edited July 2021

    kyoto kid said:

    ...yeah it's for G2 so not sure how it woudl fit to G8 as I'm not sure if it's considered clothing or a wearble. 

    I was thinking more about the transparency and color. It's probably clothing, but I don't think fit would be that much of a problem. Fit to G3 then to G8.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,244
    edited July 2021

    ...interesting that it wouldn't fit directly to G8 as doesn't G8 include all the Genesis fit clones?

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