The We Will Miss You, Chohole Complaint Thread

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  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    Non-complaint: I got my free quesadilla! It was yummy. The owner and I decided that if I want one in the future, I can call the day before to let them know and they will set some mushrooms aside. Her original suggestion was to call in the morning, but I explained that I can't do that because I always sleep through it. It's really nice of her to go through the effort. Her daughter had not been very helpful, but she's young. Kids, ya know?
  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    Complaint: I know the policy is no shirt, no shoes, no service. But these girls came in to the store with no pants! They had unbuttoned shirts over thier bikini tops but nothing over their bikini bottoms. Maybe I am getting old but I don't want to see people in bathing suits at the store. Pajamas I'm fine with. But no pants? Really?! At least put a little wrap around your hips so it looks like you made an effort. Or better yet, put on some shorts.
  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,919

    What happened to Chohole?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213

    ..she passed on earlier in the month. 

    Here's the thread:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/506501/sad-news-about-moderator-chohole/p1

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,651
    edited July 2021

    Regarding complaints about scantilly dressed people in places of business:  I'm an old fart now, but 20 years ago, not so much.  I lived in Florida, on the coast, and rode bicycle a lot.  I usually rode with short pants but without my tank-top (aka: wife-beater???) until I stopped to go into a store and would then slip my tank-top on.  I found myself in a "Popeye's" fried chicken restaurant, calmly enjoying my lunch until I was approached by someone I would now call a "Karen" who took great exception to the fact that I had too much sweaty skin within view of her.  She was not being polite and tried to force me to leave the dining room.   I reciprocated the level of non-niceness and told her that "This is Florida, we are literally 100 yards from the ocean (you could tell by the large expanse of water visible out the window and dusting of fine white sand on the floor, it's a hot day, and we are in a Popeye's, not a 4-star restaurant, I'm a native Floridian (close enough), this is how we live down here.  I don't like entitled tourists criticizing our lifestyle.  If you don't like it, go back up to where you escaped from and stop telling us how to live down here."  And of course I made sure that everybody in the dining room heard me clearly.  Nobody came to her defense.  Her mouth flapped a few times but after a brief flury of Karen-like explicatives she shut up, sat down and watched me like a hawk until I left. Made my day.devil

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  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    edited July 2021

    I didn't say anything to them, and it is a hot day*, but there's no ocean anywhere near here. The closest beach is a few cold waves and some rocks an hour away. Most people here don't have pools either. It just looked like they were wearing panties, and that is a bit much. Tank tops are at least widely accepted as normal, everyday clothing. 

     

    *By hot, I mean it's not cold. It's overcast and in the 70s. 

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  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,522

    Nice title, TJohn. 

    Oh, I'm sick of trying to light this scene!  It's 10-20 minutes before I can get a preview of the scene to work, just to see how its lit.

    Argh!  This PBR Skin Shader is getting on my nerves!

    That seller is avoiding me. Either he hasn't sent my 3D Printed figure, or it's lost in the post. If that's the case, I can see why he can't/won't let me leave a review for him.

    Great. Now I've found Star Trek stuff that I like (on a certain arts and craft website)! 

    I wish we didn't live near other people. I could really do with going outside and screaming for a few minutes (not that it'll help).

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,651
    edited July 2021

    All fine and good but my point was that there are situations where scanty is not particularly distressing.  However, there are situations where Wal-Mart attire should remain at Wal-Mart where we know we can go with our cameras to seek them out.devil

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    LeatherGryphon said:

    Regarding complaints about scantilly dressed people in places of business:  I'm an old fart now, but 20 years ago, not so much.  I lived in Florida, on the coast, and rode bicycle a lot.  I usually rode with short pants but without my tank-top (aka: wife-beater???) until I stopped to go into a store and would then slip my tank-top on.  I found myself in a "Popeye's" fried chicken restaurant, calmly enjoying my lunch until I was approached by someone I would now call a "Karen" who took great exception to the fact that I had too much sweaty skin within view of her.  She was not being polite and tried to force me to leave the dining room.   I reciprocated the level of non-niceness and told her that "This is Florida, we are literally 100 yards from the ocean (you could tell by the large expanse of water visible out the window and dusting of fine white sand on the floor, it's a hot day, and that we are in a Popeye's, not in a 4-star restaurant, I'm a native Floridian (close enough), this is how we live down here.  I don't like entitled tourists telling us how to live.  "If you don't like it go back up to where you escaped from and stop telling us how to live down here."  And of course I made sure that everybody in the dining room heard me clearly.  Nobody came to her defense.  Her mouth flapped a few times but after a brief flury of Karen-like explicatives she shut up, sat down and watched me like a hawk until I left. Made my day.devil

    That's really weird. 

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    edited July 2021

    N_R Arts said:

    Nice title, TJohn. 

    Oh, I'm sick of trying to light this scene!  It's 10-20 minutes before I can get a preview of the scene to work, just to see how its lit.

    Argh!  This PBR Skin Shader is getting on my nerves!

    That seller is avoiding me. Either he hasn't sent my 3D Printed figure, or it's lost in the post. If that's the case, I can see why he can't/won't let me leave a review for him.

    Great. Now I've found Star Trek stuff that I like (on a certain arts and craft website)! 

    I wish we didn't live near other people. I could really do with going outside and screaming for a few minutes (not that it'll help).

    Some cities have businesses that sell a kind of destruction therapy, where you can pay to destroy an old tv or washing machine or whatever. They provide hammers, baseball bats, and mallets, along with broken devices or old furniture to take your anger out on. The first time I saw it was at an underground nightclub in Tampa. Later, I saw it featured in a traveling show episode I think set in Hong Kong. 

    Apparently, they are called rage rooms and there are hundreds in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_room

    The wiki says 2008 or earlier, while the underground club, called Therapy, was a place I went to in 2003. Maybe the name "rage room" just didn't catch on until later?

    Unfortunately, they might actually make your anger worse, which I think is interesting. Maybe it's an evolved trait that if you get into beating things up, you get extra energy and wrath to finish the battle. 

    It's probably best to just stick to screaming once in a while. Or maybe try some yoga. 

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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,527
    What is wrong with Karen? My grandma was a Karen but she was real nice. I miss her.
  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,225
    edited July 2021

    McGyver said:

    Can we attach OBJ and MTL files?

    I made this and I was wondering if I can attach it here in case anyone wants to use it...

    The OBJ is 2.8 MB and the MTL is 275 bytes... the diffuse map is 396 kb and the normal map is 1.6 MB...

    The textures are an approximation of the the ones portrayed in Chohole's iconic avatar image... actually the whole thing is a lame approximation... and it was semi-auto unwrapped in 3D coat... the textures and scale would need to be adjusted in Studio as it's settings are whatever the hell 3D Coat exports them as.

    yep Mac, zip it all up and then attach.

    I did a Carrarian Gnomes render with my model club in memory of chohole, who looked after us Carrarians with love and a big stick.. we will miss that ..

    also, about scantily clad females, in my local Woolworths last summer there was a young lady doing the shopping wearing just a shirt... nothing else... surprise 

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,437

    certaintree38 said:

    N_R Arts said:

    Nice title, TJohn. 

    Oh, I'm sick of trying to light this scene!  It's 10-20 minutes before I can get a preview of the scene to work, just to see how its lit.

    Argh!  This PBR Skin Shader is getting on my nerves!

    That seller is avoiding me. Either he hasn't sent my 3D Printed figure, or it's lost in the post. If that's the case, I can see why he can't/won't let me leave a review for him.

    Great. Now I've found Star Trek stuff that I like (on a certain arts and craft website)! 

    I wish we didn't live near other people. I could really do with going outside and screaming for a few minutes (not that it'll help).

    Some cities have businesses that sell a kind of destruction therapy, where you can pay to destroy an old tv or washing machine or whatever. They provide hammers, baseball bats, and mallets, along with broken devices or old furniture to take your anger out on. The first time I saw it was at an underground nightclub in Tampa. Later, I saw it featured in a traveling show episode I think set in Hong Kong. 

    Apparently, they are called rage rooms and there are hundreds in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_room

    The wiki says 2008 or earlier, while the underground club, called Therapy, was a place I went to in 2003. Maybe the name "rage room" just didn't catch on until later?

    Unfortunately, they might actually make your anger worse, which I think is interesting. Maybe it's an evolved trait that if you get into beating things up, you get extra energy and wrath to finish the battle. 

    It's probably best to just stick to screaming once in a while. Or maybe try some yoga. 

    Well, when I was at university in the early eighties the students organised a mini-fair (rag week perhaps?) and one of the attractions was a shelving unit with various bits of crockery on it and you could buy something (balls? stones?) to throw at them. It seemed a weird idea to me, but it sounds like a prehistoric ancestor of the rage room.

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    Richard Haseltine said:

    certaintree38 said:

    N_R Arts said:

    Nice title, TJohn. 

    Oh, I'm sick of trying to light this scene!  It's 10-20 minutes before I can get a preview of the scene to work, just to see how its lit.

    Argh!  This PBR Skin Shader is getting on my nerves!

    That seller is avoiding me. Either he hasn't sent my 3D Printed figure, or it's lost in the post. If that's the case, I can see why he can't/won't let me leave a review for him.

    Great. Now I've found Star Trek stuff that I like (on a certain arts and craft website)! 

    I wish we didn't live near other people. I could really do with going outside and screaming for a few minutes (not that it'll help).

    Some cities have businesses that sell a kind of destruction therapy, where you can pay to destroy an old tv or washing machine or whatever. They provide hammers, baseball bats, and mallets, along with broken devices or old furniture to take your anger out on. The first time I saw it was at an underground nightclub in Tampa. Later, I saw it featured in a traveling show episode I think set in Hong Kong. 

    Apparently, they are called rage rooms and there are hundreds in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_room

    The wiki says 2008 or earlier, while the underground club, called Therapy, was a place I went to in 2003. Maybe the name "rage room" just didn't catch on until later?

    Unfortunately, they might actually make your anger worse, which I think is interesting. Maybe it's an evolved trait that if you get into beating things up, you get extra energy and wrath to finish the battle. 

    It's probably best to just stick to screaming once in a while. Or maybe try some yoga. 

    Well, when I was at university in the early eighties the students organised a mini-fair (rag week perhaps?) and one of the attractions was a shelving unit with various bits of crockery on it and you could buy something (balls? stones?) to throw at them. It seemed a weird idea to me, but it sounds like a prehistoric ancestor of the rage room.

    The plot thickens!

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,879
    edited July 2021

    The university where I went in the early 60's had a car bashing fair. But it was all good. It cost X amount for each swing at the car and the money went to a charity

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  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,997

    Sfariah said:

    What is wrong with Karen? My grandma was a Karen but she was real nice. I miss her.

    Karen is a nickname for someone that displays particularly aggressive busybody behavior... IE: Someone who complains to the manager a lot!

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066
    edited July 2021

    PLEASE IGNORE THE POST BELOW

    I MOVED THE ZIP FILE TO THE FREEBIES FORUM

    It seems to have worked... 

    I hope this works for people... I set it up for DAZ and Poser (scale mostly... I only adjusted the textures a tiny bit)...
    I also included the OBJs too. 
    It's probably an unprofessional mess...
    I was having problems with DS, so I'm not sure if it's working right for anyone but me... So if anyone can test it and let me know if it's functional, that would be great.

    Otherwise, enjoy it (if it works)... use it how ever you like commercial, non-commercial, with or without pants on... whatever floats your boat.

    Cheers Peeps.


    THE SHILLELAGH MODEL ZIP CAN BE FOUND ON THE FREEBIES FORUM 

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  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388

    TJohn, thanks for naming the thread to honor Chohole.

    So Florida's not the only place with scanty.  When I used to live in Southern Indiana, the li'l HS and local college girls used to do that thing, dressing with a bikini or just bikini bottoms and have a pair of jean shorts over the top of that, but unbuttoned and unzipped in front.  I through it was odd when somebody told me what to expect during the summer festivals such as the speedboat races on the Ohio River, or the Oktoberfest in ... wait, was that in September?  Yeah, I think it was.  Well, no matter. 

    My friend was right, that's how they dressed.  It was all about being seen.  And even though that part of the US is part of the Bible Belt, it was a thing.  I don't know of anybody complaining...except for the dads who were watching every boy who's eyes their daughters might catch, lol!  And yeah, some of othose dads had gun racks on the back window of their pickup trucks.

    Oh, and the humidity in Southern Indiana/Northern Kentucky was WORSE than it is in Florida, if you can imagine such a thing!  At least in Orlando, you can bolt for one coast or the other if you want to get some relief.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    edited July 2021

    N_R Arts said:

    Nice title, TJohn. 

    Oh, I'm sick of trying to light this scene!  It's 10-20 minutes before I can get a preview of the scene to work, just to see how its lit.

    Argh!  This PBR Skin Shader is getting on my nerves!

    That seller is avoiding me. Either he hasn't sent my 3D Printed figure, or it's lost in the post. If that's the case, I can see why he can't/won't let me leave a review for him.

    Great. Now I've found Star Trek stuff that I like (on a certain arts and craft website)! 

    I wish we didn't live near other people. I could really do with going outside and screaming for a few minutes (not that it'll help).

    ...yeah I added two IES profile lights ot a scene and after 2hrs and 35 min it was only 87% converged. (this is with a 12GB Titan-X that has 3072 cores). 

    Without the IES lights it rendered in about 30 min but looked more "meh". 

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  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    kyoto kid said:

    N_R Arts said:

    Nice title, TJohn. 

    Oh, I'm sick of trying to light this scene!  It's 10-20 minutes before I can get a preview of the scene to work, just to see how its lit.

    Argh!  This PBR Skin Shader is getting on my nerves!

    That seller is avoiding me. Either he hasn't sent my 3D Printed figure, or it's lost in the post. If that's the case, I can see why he can't/won't let me leave a review for him.

    Great. Now I've found Star Trek stuff that I like (on a certain arts and craft website)! 

    I wish we didn't live near other people. I could really do with going outside and screaming for a few minutes (not that it'll help).

    ...yeah I added two IES profile lights ot a scene and after 2hrs and 35 min it was only 87% converged. (this is with a 12GB Titan-X that has 3072 cores). 

    Without the IES lights it rendered in about 30 min but looked more "meh". 

    How do you make your IES lights? I tried adding a few free ones to headlights in my last render, and it only succeeded in making the centers black. It may have been a geometry thing, but if you have any tips, I've love to hear them. 

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,624

    Love that you guys did this as I miss Chohole!

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,522

    certaintree38 said:

    N_R Arts said:

    Nice title, TJohn. 

    Oh, I'm sick of trying to light this scene!  It's 10-20 minutes before I can get a preview of the scene to work, just to see how its lit.

    Argh!  This PBR Skin Shader is getting on my nerves!

    That seller is avoiding me. Either he hasn't sent my 3D Printed figure, or it's lost in the post. If that's the case, I can see why he can't/won't let me leave a review for him.

    Great. Now I've found Star Trek stuff that I like (on a certain arts and craft website)! 

    I wish we didn't live near other people. I could really do with going outside and screaming for a few minutes (not that it'll help).

    Some cities have businesses that sell a kind of destruction therapy, where you can pay to destroy an old tv or washing machine or whatever. They provide hammers, baseball bats, and mallets, along with broken devices or old furniture to take your anger out on. The first time I saw it was at an underground nightclub in Tampa. Later, I saw it featured in a traveling show episode I think set in Hong Kong. 

    Apparently, they are called rage rooms and there are hundreds in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_room

    The wiki says 2008 or earlier, while the underground club, called Therapy, was a place I went to in 2003. Maybe the name "rage room" just didn't catch on until later?

    Unfortunately, they might actually make your anger worse, which I think is interesting. Maybe it's an evolved trait that if you get into beating things up, you get extra energy and wrath to finish the battle. 

    It's probably best to just stick to screaming once in a while. Or maybe try some yoga. 

    I've never heard of them, until you mentioned them. I've been searching the web, and there's barely a handful of them in the UK (London, Bristol, Glasgow).

    I must admit, when I've been angry in the past, punching walls seemed to make my anger much worse. But I think frustration adds fuel to the fire too (like you're not actively dealing with the problem - so it still simmers).

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Well, when I was at university in the early eighties the students organised a mini-fair (rag week perhaps?) and one of the attractions was a shelving unit with various bits of crockery on it and you could buy something (balls? stones?) to throw at them. It seemed a weird idea to me, but it sounds like a prehistoric ancestor of the rage room.

    Ah-ha! Now that's my sort of thing. Although, I'd probably miss all of the plates, and end up even more angry than when I started ^^'

    Charlie Judge said:

    The university where I went in the early 60's had a car bashing fair. But it was all good. It cost X amount for each swing at the car and the money went to a charity

    surprise Awesome!

    Although, that's a Saturday night out in some areas of the UK. ^^'

    kyoto kid said:

    ...yeah I added two IES profile lights ot a scene and after 2hrs and 35 min it was only 87% converged. (this is with a 12GB Titan-X that has 3072 cores). 

    Without the IES lights it rendered in about 30 min but looked more "meh". 

    I can't wrap my head around IES lights (or mesh lights).

    My rendering woes are AMD CPU-based. The new SSD handles Iray preview loading times a lot better than the old HDD (which couldn't handle them at all), but it's still pretty slow. 

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I've been up all night. It's not a new thing. Our cat has been sick several times. She was due to have a health check. But that's now been put back until September. I was pretty lucky to get an appointment today. 

    I'm telling/trying to explain ^that to my father. He's making me feel like I'm talking in riddles! 

    Oh well, looks like my figure has arrived. At least that's one hollow victory for today.

    My keyboard needs cleaning

    I need to get some sleep, but I don't want to. If our cat is still on my bed, I'll have to sleep on the bean bag (I did it for our previous cat, and I'll do it again for this one).

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    Charlie Judge said:

    The university where I went in the early 60's had a car bashing fair. But it was all good. It cost X amount for each swing at the car and the money went to a charity

    Went to a crash derby as a kid and they let us do that after the crash derby was over. Fun!

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,527
    I got an email about Speakeasy and looked it up. Apparently there is a modern version of a speakeasy except that it is legal. I think the original wasn't legal.
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    takezo_3001 said:

    Sfariah said:

    What is wrong with Karen? My grandma was a Karen but she was real nice. I miss her.

    Karen is a nickname for someone that displays particularly aggressive busybody behavior... IE: Someone who complains to the manager a lot!

    Around my town apparently there are not enough Karens, what with all the cold and missing restaurant food, car wrecks, vandalism, thefts, and a long unlaundered list of other laundry that the town's in-charge folk let slide, year after year. 

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    Sfariah said:

    I got an email about Speakeasy and looked it up. Apparently there is a modern version of a speakeasy except that it is legal. I think the original wasn't legal.

    Well, Prohibition ended in 1933, so technically speakeasies were only illegal for 13 years... I'm not sure how long the software was illegal, but I'm sure the clandestine use of it was what led to the Great Ampersand and Colon Shortage of 1993... 

    Thats a bad joke if I'm not right about the specialness of ampersands and colons in the original Speakeasy code.

    In general just assume anything I say is a bad joke.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Non-complaint; Got a message today that my new motherboard (Asus WS X299 SAGE/10G Intel LGA2066) has arrived at the store, now I'm only missing the processor.

    Anybody have information about pros/cons between Skylake and Cascade lake HEDT processors (i9-.....X), or more specific, does Skylake have any benefits at all over Cascade lake?

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,651

    McGyver said:

    Sfariah said:

    I got an email about Speakeasy and looked it up. Apparently there is a modern version of a speakeasy except that it is legal. I think the original wasn't legal.

    Well, Prohibition ended in 1933, so technically speakeasies were only illegal for 13 years... I'm not sure how long the software was illegal, but I'm sure the clandestine use of it was what led to the Great Ampersand and Colon Shortage of 1993... 

    Thats a bad joke if I'm not right about the specialness of ampersands and colons in the original Speakeasy code.

    In general just assume anything I say is a bad joke.

    Not difficult.  But we laugh anyway. yes

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    But is it a "ha-ha" laugh or a "ha-hhhha-ugh, the crazy bastard is up to that again" laugh?... either way, I'm good with it.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066
    edited July 2021

    For anyone interested, I moved the Shillelagh zip file to the freebies forum which probably makes more sense because it would quickly get left behind here.

    Well, quicklyish... you people don't complain so much anymore.

    A sad state of affairs that is.

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