Missing PA Content

What has happened to this vendors content : https://www.daz3d.com/marcius . Everything is MIA.

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  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    His name is no longer in the vendor list, so we can only speculate. https://www.daz3d.com/vendor#vendor_m
  •  I hope it's going to stay available for re-downloads. I have some of those alien characters bought.

  • genejokegenejoke Posts: 129
    edited August 2021

    PixelSploiting said:

     I hope it's going to stay available for re-downloads. I have some of those alien characters bought.

    I'd certainly hope so. Hopefully someone will clear that aspect up soon.

     

    EDIT: I checked my products and the Marcius products still show as downloadable.

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  • mdingmding Posts: 1,278
    edited August 2021

    Part of his chars seem to be available at renderhub.

    I really hope he didn't leave Daz. Was he upset because of NFT?

    Edited to remove link

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • I hope they didn't leave, that would be very upsetting to have all that content be cut without a warning so that we could make purchases before the departure.

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,278

    ShadowSkillz said:

    I hope they didn't leave, that would be very upsetting to have all that content be cut without a warning so that we could make purchases before the departure. 

    I totally loved his style and wanted to learn how to render portraits like in his promo pics. So inspiring!

  • KinichKinich Posts: 883

    The Daz policy has always been that if you bought it here you can download it from here even if the vendor leaves or the product is retired, as far as I know that has not changed (I have quite a bit of old stuff that you can no longer buy available in my product library) so you shouldn't have to worry about that side of the issue.

  • QuasarQuasar Posts: 651

    A lot of his products have been in the PC for a day and clearance sales recently. There was a lot of content for great prices, but maybe there's some connection there as to why his store is gone. Although, we have seen this type of thing happen before when DAZ buys up a PAs library as well. Hopefully we'll get some more information about it eventually.

  • akmerlowakmerlow Posts: 1,124

    Didn't we come to conclusion that DAZ's clearance sale are not guarantee that items will be removed? Though

  • Quasar said:

    A lot of his products have been in the PC for a day and clearance sales recently. There was a lot of content for great prices, but maybe there's some connection there as to why his store is gone. Although, we have seen this type of thing happen before when DAZ buys up a PAs library as well. Hopefully we'll get some more information about it eventually.

    Thats odd, you buy up a PA's content and orphan all their product pages. I hope thats the case, wouldn't mind getting his content under Daz discounts. 

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,901

    Some of the items that he used to sell here are in the Renderhub store. That seems to make it unlikely that his products have been bought by Daz; while they don't demand that vendors stay exclusive to the Daz storefront, they do require that products are exclusive to here. (That said, when they've bought out other vendors, they have in fact orphaned the product pages while those pages were being revised and the products re-released, as with Protozoon's stuff.)

    I'm honestly kind of surprised that the one product that's still in his store is still there. I wonder if that was an oversight?

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,278

    Could a mod inquire what happened and tell us, please?

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,900

    vwrangler said:

    I'm honestly kind of surprised that the one product that's still in his store is still there. I wonder if that was an oversight?

    But it is not really in the store. Clicking on it goes to the OOPS page. 

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,780

    ShadowSkillz said:

    Quasar said:

    A lot of his products have been in the PC for a day and clearance sales recently. There was a lot of content for great prices, but maybe there's some connection there as to why his store is gone. Although, we have seen this type of thing happen before when DAZ buys up a PAs library as well. Hopefully we'll get some more information about it eventually.

    Thats odd, you buy up a PA's content and orphan all their product pages. I hope thats the case, wouldn't mind getting his content under Daz discounts. 

    Could be the reason they bailed, all the insane deals DAZ has must be hard on making it worthwhile to be a PA.

  • margravemargrave Posts: 1,822

    FSMCDesigns said:

    Could be the reason they bailed, all the insane deals DAZ has must be hard on making it worthwhile to be a PA.

    Most of his products were uploaded yesterday, and many of them use the same promo images from the Daz Shop. Even on sale, they're all $6, thrice the $1.99 sale price.

  • QuasarQuasar Posts: 651

    FSMCDesigns said:

    ShadowSkillz said:

    Quasar said:

    A lot of his products have been in the PC for a day and clearance sales recently. There was a lot of content for great prices, but maybe there's some connection there as to why his store is gone. Although, we have seen this type of thing happen before when DAZ buys up a PAs library as well. Hopefully we'll get some more information about it eventually.

    Thats odd, you buy up a PA's content and orphan all their product pages. I hope thats the case, wouldn't mind getting his content under Daz discounts. 

    Could be the reason they bailed, all the insane deals DAZ has must be hard on making it worthwhile to be a PA.

    That was a thought I had as well. There are other factors we don't know though. For example, I wonder if DAZ asks permission before including a PA in a sale like that. If so, that's a very generous offer by the PA. And if DAZ doesn't have to ask, maybe they choose by the number of sales. Perhaps the products are only included if they are under a set threshold. That could mean they weren't selling well here anyway. It's hard not to speculate, but I hope someone in-the-know will be able to share the details soon.

  • FSMCDesigns said:

    ShadowSkillz said:

    Quasar said:

    A lot of his products have been in the PC for a day and clearance sales recently. There was a lot of content for great prices, but maybe there's some connection there as to why his store is gone. Although, we have seen this type of thing happen before when DAZ buys up a PAs library as well. Hopefully we'll get some more information about it eventually.

    Thats odd, you buy up a PA's content and orphan all their product pages. I hope thats the case, wouldn't mind getting his content under Daz discounts. 

    Could be the reason they bailed, all the insane deals DAZ has must be hard on making it worthwhile to be a PA.

    As far as I know all things like PC For a Day require the PA to opt in, and I think to select the products to be offered.

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    I realise it's tempting, but please, let us not indulge in a flurry of speculation.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Well, now I know where some other things went. ;)

  • Richard Haseltine said:

    FSMCDesigns said:

    ShadowSkillz said:

    Quasar said:

    A lot of his products have been in the PC for a day and clearance sales recently. There was a lot of content for great prices, but maybe there's some connection there as to why his store is gone. Although, we have seen this type of thing happen before when DAZ buys up a PAs library as well. Hopefully we'll get some more information about it eventually.

    Thats odd, you buy up a PA's content and orphan all their product pages. I hope thats the case, wouldn't mind getting his content under Daz discounts. 

    Could be the reason they bailed, all the insane deals DAZ has must be hard on making it worthwhile to be a PA.

    As far as I know all things like PC For a Day require the PA to opt in, and I think to select the products to be offered.

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    I realise it's tempting, but please, let us not indulge in a flurry of speculation.

    Ok, well based on your interactions on the site, you would probably be in the know if they were gone or not and since you haven't hinted at that, I'll remain hopefull of a positive outcome. 

  • 3dLux3dLux Posts: 1,231
    edited August 2021

    Quasar said:

    A lot of his products have been in the PC for a day and clearance sales recently. There was a lot of content for great prices, but maybe there's some connection there as to why his store is gone. Although, we have seen this type of thing happen before when DAZ buys up a PAs library as well. Hopefully we'll get some more information about it eventually.

    I did notice that; the last PA i noticed that happening to was Protozoon and it turned out his products were bought by Daz and later released as Daz Originals.  Fortunately by that time I was only missing 2 of his products and was later able to snag both at good prices.

    The above was an observation which may or may not be relevant to this situation blush 

    Post edited by 3dLux on
  • As Richard said, deep discount products are opt-in or very old. 

  • margravemargrave Posts: 1,822

    Ok, well based on your interactions on the site, you would probably be in the know if they were gone or not and since you haven't hinted at that, I'll remain hopefull of a positive outcome. 

    As mentioned, Daz3D requires exclusivity for all products sold, and two days ago this PA uploaded a bunch of formerly Daz-exclusive figures to a third-party website. I think it's safe to say they're gone.

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,278

    He could have told us on FB, IMO, his FB even still leads to DAZ.

  • Sensual ArtSensual Art Posts: 645
    edited August 2021

    margrave said:

    Ok, well based on your interactions on the site, you would probably be in the know if they were gone or not and since you haven't hinted at that, I'll remain hopefull of a positive outcome. 

    As mentioned, Daz3D requires exclusivity for all products sold, and two days ago this PA uploaded a bunch of formerly Daz-exclusive figures to a third-party website. I think it's safe to say they're gone.

    Not entirely correct. The 21st Century Girl Outfit is available from multiple stores - here, Renderosity, RenderHub.

    Post edited by Sensual Art on
  • margravemargrave Posts: 1,822

    DAZ 3D offers an Exclusive Licensing Agreement to all artists whose submitted work is accepted. This agreement contains arrangements for a 50% royalty to be paid to the legal licensor/artist each month. This agreement requires that the artist's licensed products be sold exclusively by DAZ 3D, Inc. via DAZ 3D's online store. Please contact the DAZ 3D publishing Department via pa@daz3d.com for further information regarding such an agreement.

    -http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/publishing/pa_info/start

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    From the breadth of the recent Clearance sales, it's pretty clear that DAZ is in the process of a major purge of the catalog, so I expect that many of the PAs will be gone by the time it's over.         

  • Cybersox said:

    From the breadth of the recent Clearance sales, it's pretty clear that DAZ is in the process of a major purge of the catalog, so I expect that many of the PAs will be gone by the time it's over.         
     

    That is not the point of those sales and no, no purge is planned.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    Cybersox said:

    From the breadth of the recent Clearance sales, it's pretty clear that DAZ is in the process of a major purge of the catalog, so I expect that many of the PAs will be gone by the time it's over.         
     

    That is not the point of those sales and no, no purge is planned.

    Er... are you saying that these aren't really clearance sales and the verbiage about "last chance to purchase" on many of them isn't accurate?  Because I've been looking at what's been going through there and, if all that product will be removed from the store, there are more than few of PAs who will no longer have anything in the store.      

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,186

    Cybersox said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    Cybersox said:

    From the breadth of the recent Clearance sales, it's pretty clear that DAZ is in the process of a major purge of the catalog, so I expect that many of the PAs will be gone by the time it's over.         
     

    That is not the point of those sales and no, no purge is planned.

    Er... are you saying that these aren't really clearance sales and the verbiage about "last chance to purchase" on many of them isn't accurate?  Because I've been looking at what's been going through there and, if all that product will be removed from the store, there are more than few of PAs who will no longer have anything in the store.      

    You may be thinking of the Vault sales, which do specify that the featured items will soon become unavailable. None of the currently active clearance sales say any such thing.

  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,799

    Darn, I had a couple characters from Marcius on my wishlist. I guess that's what I get for waiting. They haven't showed up in the new location yet either sad

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