More Non-photorealistic Renders (NPR III)

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  • 3Diva said:

    The colors, pose, and set are lovely. Her face gets a little lost though. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle but it's hard to see where her face is at. I can't tell where her eyes are. Again it might be just the camera angle above the feathers that obscures her face.

    Yeah, I had noticed that after rendering. It's not my favorite pose/angle. I was going for her studying and falling asleep, but it got lost in translation. After 12 hours of rendering, though, I decided to let it go and move on.  :D

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527

    LoreMistress Izaria said:

    3Diva said:

    The colors, pose, and set are lovely. Her face gets a little lost though. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle but it's hard to see where her face is at. I can't tell where her eyes are. Again it might be just the camera angle above the feathers that obscures her face.

    Yeah, I had noticed that after rendering. It's not my favorite pose/angle. I was going for her studying and falling asleep, but it got lost in translation. After 12 hours of rendering, though, I decided to let it go and move on.  :D

    12 HOURS!? What render engine are you using? Since you're going for NPR it shouldn't take very long to render in Iray, since you're going to run it through filters anyway. 

    If you're rendering in Iray try turning on the Post Denoiser and set Progressive Rendering >> Rendering Converged Ratio to like 25% (or even less). This should render it MUCH faster. 

  • juvesatrianijuvesatriani Posts: 556
    edited August 2022

    Revisit and make some adjustment for  my freebie IRAY > NPR photoshop Action . I`ll be post the update version after make sure that this action work with several IRAY Lighting sets

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  • 3Diva said:

    LoreMistress Izaria said:

    3Diva said:

    The colors, pose, and set are lovely. Her face gets a little lost though. I'm not sure if it's just the camera angle but it's hard to see where her face is at. I can't tell where her eyes are. Again it might be just the camera angle above the feathers that obscures her face.

    Yeah, I had noticed that after rendering. It's not my favorite pose/angle. I was going for her studying and falling asleep, but it got lost in translation. After 12 hours of rendering, though, I decided to let it go and move on.  :D

    12 HOURS!? What render engine are you using? Since you're going for NPR it shouldn't take very long to render in Iray, since you're going to run it through filters anyway. 

    If you're rendering in Iray try turning on the Post Denoiser and set Progressive Rendering >> Rendering Converged Ratio to like 25% (or even less). This should render it MUCH faster. 

    Beside what 3Diva explained above , try this one  >> In Progressive Render tab make sure that each option with "SIMM" active . TBH I dont know what those setting for , but it seem make my render faster and work with my laptop 860GtX card  :)

  • juvesatrianijuvesatriani Posts: 556
    edited August 2022

    girlz

    Basic Render done using my pwToon Preset ( !JS Stylized) . Overal color adjustment  - edge enhancer for hair and cropped done in Photoshop 

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  • @3Diva and @juvesatriani

    I'll have to try those settings. I thought it was just the feathers and fur making the renders take longer. I use a laptop that probably needs updating. I usually just set the render to run at night so it doesn't hold me up. It would be nice to go faster...

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527

    @juvesatriani Those are very nice! When you get the Action updated, could you post the link to it? I'd love to try it out! 

     

  • csaacsaa Posts: 823

    Sgts. Andrea, Cleo & Inez: Parting Ways | Daz assets & set up | Blender Eevee render | Clip Studio Paint post-edit

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527
    @csaa Looks good! I like that overhead shot - it makes the panel more dynamic and really increases the visual appeal. This is such a great example of how simply changing the camera angle and rendering the panels from different angles and heights - and not just staying at chest level, like we tend to get in the habit of - can really add so much more visual interest to each panel! Also, I'd like to mention that I enjoy the way you used the light spot to really help Cleo stand out against the dark background. You're showing how important it is to keep our characters' silhouettes clear and clean. The only issue I see is the typo (I'm assuming) of "to be" doubled. This panel is great! Nicely done! If Cleo's emotional response to this news that she needs to stay behind is important then you could add an inlay panel of her face showing her disappointment (or whatever emotion she might be feeling). Or even just show her face in the next panel.
  • juvesatrianijuvesatriani Posts: 556
    edited August 2022

    @3Diva I`m not yet finishing that action`s  mini guide , But I`ll post link in your inbox current version if you want to try . Ler me know in DM

    AI+DAZStduio

     

    Meanwhile here my current NPR experiment image which combining elements generated by AI tools - DAZ Studio render and some manual brush in photoshop

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  • juvesatrianijuvesatriani Posts: 556
    edited August 2022

    @3Diva or anyone who want to try , here the link for my new IRAY 2 NPR Photoshop action

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  • TugpsxTugpsx Posts: 738

    juvesatriani said:

    @3Diva or anyone who want to try , here the link for my new IRAY 2 NPR Photoshop action

    Sweet thanks, have to see how I can adopt these for Affinity Photo

     

  • juvesatriani said:

    @3Diva or anyone who want to try , here the link for my new IRAY 2 NPR Photoshop action

    Awesome! I can't wait to try this. Thanks for sharing.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527

    juvesatriani said:

    @3Diva or anyone who want to try , here the link for my new IRAY 2 NPR Photoshop action

    Thank you so much! I'm looking forward to trying these out!

    I really should package up my PS actions and share them as well. Yours are probably way better than mine, but maybe someone will find them useful. lol :)

  • I used my actions, some parts of @juvesatriani 's actions, and Topaz Studio. I might be getting close to something of a 'style'.

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549

    juvesatriani said:

    @3Diva I`m not yet finishing that action`s  mini guide , But I`ll post link in your inbox current version if you want to try . Ler me know in DM

    AI+DAZStduio

     

    Meanwhile here my current NPR experiment image which combining elements generated by AI tools - DAZ Studio render and some manual brush in photoshop

    Very Cool.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527
    edited August 2022

    LoreMistress Izaria said:

    I used my actions, some parts of @juvesatriani 's actions, and Topaz Studio. I might be getting close to something of a 'style'.

    That's lovely! The background is a bit dark and the character gets a little "lost" in the background/environment. Because she's such a visually "busy" character, you'll probably want a bit more contrast between her and the background. You might try adding a slight emissive to the background/environment elements to lighten them up a little and help the "readability" - so that the character and background aren't so blended together. 

    Other than that I'm really liking the direction you're going here! Very cool!

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527
    edited September 2022

    You guys are being very generous with sharing your Photoshop Actions so I thought I'd finally get off my duff and package up some of mine to share as well. I don't know if anyone will find them helpful, but I thought I'd share them just in case. They're a bit "strong" but can be toned down by lowering their opacity over the original render. 

    Attached is the ZIP with the actions.

    Here's an example of the styles of looks that the actions can give. 

     

     

    I think my personal favorites are 1, 9, and 10. 

    If anyone has trouble installing them or figuring out how to load or use actions in Photoshop let me know and I'll see if I can walk you through it. :) You can also Google "How to load Photoshop Actions" if you've never done it before. Let me know if you have any trouble though and I'll see if I can help. :)

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527
    edited August 2022

    @juvesatriani Your Photoshop Actions are FANTASTIC! The "02 SMOOTH FX" is my favorite part. It takes quite a while to complete on my older computer but the result is really nice!

    Here I did a mix of your PS Actions with mine. I really like how it came out!

    Thank you so much for the really cool actions!

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  • juvesatrianijuvesatriani Posts: 556
    edited August 2022

    Thanks for taking time to try my action @3diva @tugpsx and @LoreMistressIzaria . let me know if there is trouble or need improvements .

    As I mentioned in readme file , those action designed to work as sequence . From no 1 up to 6/7 .Also  sometimes you need to to manually painting with black (in MASKING Channel) if you think some filter feel too strong or distorted some important parts like eyes - finger or textures

    So Should  I  make one continous /combining action version or do you think better to  split them like that ? My main reason to split those action into smaller ones because sometimes I need to repeat some actions .

    I`m also like your action @3diva , it feel more comic style than mine 

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527

    juvesatriani said:

    Thanks for taking time to try my action @3diva @tugpsx and @LoreMistressIzaria . let me know if there is trouble or need improvements . As I mentioned in readme file , those action designed to work as sequence . From no 1 up to 6/7

    Should  I  make one continous /combining action version or do you think better to  split them like that ? My main reason to split those action into smaller ones because sometimes I need to repeat some actions .

    I`m also like your action @3diva , it feel more comic style than mine 

    I like that you split them up - as you said sometimes it's fun to run one of the sequences twice before moving on to the others. For instance, I really like stopping at the "05 Fake Outline" stage and sometimes double that up to get a more comic style. Your actions are really fun and a big help! Thank you for taking the time to package them, adding the prompt instructions, and providing a guide for them. That's really nice of you to put in all that work and share these with us!

  • juvesatrianijuvesatriani Posts: 556
    edited August 2022

    I`ve forgot to mention , if you feel slow when doing my second action *02 SMOOTH FX# . You need to setup the GPU option

    You can find in FILTER>NOISE>GreyCstoration > Tick GPU . You just need to setup once . Now you should find those action work faster than before 

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527

    juvesatriani said:

    I`ve forgot to mention , if you feel slow when doing my second action *02 SMOOTH FX# . You need to setup the GPU option

    You can find in FILTER>NOISE>GreyCstoration > Tick GPU . You just need to setup once . Now you should find those action work faster than before 

    Whoa! That is WAY faster! Thank you so much! surprise

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527
    edited August 2022

    LoreMistress Izaria said:

    I used my actions, some parts of @juvesatriani 's actions, and Topaz Studio. I might be getting close to something of a 'style'.

    I did a mix of your action "Cartoonize 2", @juvesatriani 's actions, and one of my actions. This is the result. It definitely came out "painterly" and might be a bit strong mixing all three, but I'm definitely going to experiment more with mixing your actions, mine, and juvesatriani's at different strengths.

    Thank you both for taking the time to share your actions! I'm having a lot of fun with them!

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  • 3Diva said:

    LoreMistress Izaria said:

    I used my actions, some parts of @juvesatriani 's actions, and Topaz Studio. I might be getting close to something of a 'style'.

    I did a mix of your action "Cartoonize 2", @juvesatriani 's actions, and one of my actions. This is the result. It definitely came out "painterly" and might be a bit strong mixing all three, but I'm definitely going to experiment more with mixing your actions, mine, and juvesatriani's at different strengths.

    Thank you both for taking the time to share your actions! I'm having a lot of fun with them!

    Cool NPR result !! 

  • csaacsaa Posts: 823

    @3diva, @juvesatriani and @LoreMistressIzaria:

    It's very generous of you to share your filters and PS actions. And the renders are looking great! Where ever he is, I hope @vrba79 is lurking here and can pick up on your files. I'm sure he'd put it all to good use too.

    Cheers!

  • @3Diva Thanks for sharing your actions, too. I can't wait to play with them!

     

  • csaacsaa Posts: 823
    edited August 2022

    Just wanted to make something lighthearted ... a break from the usual. laugh I believe there are different variants of 'bingsu' across the Far East. Some of the best mix in chunks of fruit, boba and slices of flan into the milk shake.

    Cheers!

    Sgts. Andrea & Inez: Pining for Bingsu | Daz assets and set up | Blender Eevee render | Clip Studio Paint post-edit

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527

    @csaa HAHA I love that! Who can't get behind frozen desserts? My favorite part is the little robot. His joining the conversation with his little "DWEEP" is so cute! 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,527
    edited August 2022

    csaa said:

    @3diva, @juvesatriani and @LoreMistressIzaria:

    It's very generous of you to share your filters and PS actions. And the renders are looking great! Where ever he is, I hope @vrba79 is lurking here and can pick up on your files. I'm sure he'd put it all to good use too.

    Cheers!

    Thank you! I hope that @Vrba79 comes back soon too. I miss their NPR work and comments.

    LoreMistress Izaria said:

    @3Diva Thanks for sharing your actions, too. I can't wait to play with them!

    You're welcome! I hope you find them helpful, or at least have a little fun testing them out. Keep in mind that the "Image Prep" presets are only really for if you want a painted look.  Otherwise I usually skip them unless I'm aiming for something more abstract or painted looking.

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