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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    edited October 2024

    Have you guys had a chance to check out Filatoon? I'm having a blast with it!

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  • Xandyr78Xandyr78 Posts: 119

    3Diva said:

    Have you guys had a chance to check out Filatoon? I'm having a blast with it!

    Oh my word that looks amazing.  How much tweaking did you have to do to that?

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    edited October 2024

    Xandyr78 said:

    3Diva said:

    Have you guys had a chance to check out Filatoon? I'm having a blast with it!

    Oh my word that looks amazing.  How much tweaking did you have to do to that?

    Thank you. It took a LOT of tweaking and experimenting of both the shaders as well as the Filament Draw Options settings. I'm about to submit a product to Daz3D though that has the presets (shader presets and scene settings presets). The PAs got the shaders early and, sadly, I was out of town and away from my computer so couldn't get the product made and submitted before the release of Filatoon, but I'm hoping to get it submitted to Daz3D shortly. I'm working on a tutorial to go with it.

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  • MoreTNMoreTN Posts: 302

    3Diva said:

    Xandyr78 said:

    3Diva said:

    Have you guys had a chance to check out Filatoon? I'm having a blast with it!

    Oh my word that looks amazing.  How much tweaking did you have to do to that?

    Thank you. It took a LOT of tweaking and experimenting of both the shaders as well as the Filament Draw Options settings. I'm about to submit a product to Daz3D though that has the presets (shader presets and scene settings presets). The PAs got the shaders early and, sadly, I was out of town and away from my computer so couldn't get the product made and submitted before the release of Filatoon, but I'm hoping to get it submitted to Daz3D shortly. I'm working on a tutorial to go with it.

    Please please please

  • Phloki3dPhloki3d Posts: 138
    edited October 2024

    Great render @3Diva ! Really love the pastel colour scheme! 

    Filatoon has definitely brought a lot to the table, I've been having fun playing around with it and whilst it's taking some tweaking to get closer to the anime style I want, it'll save a tonne of time going forward, 

    Here's to hoping we see a lot more NPR art here soon too with how accessible Filatoon is,

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642
    edited October 2024

    Cartoon filter in the Gimp on Daz Studio render.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699

    @Phloki3d Your character looks AWESOME in Filatoon! 

    @Artini That turned out really cool! I love that Filatoon can do emissions.

     

    Filatoon really is a game-changer for NPR renders!

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642

    Thank you very much, @3Diva

    I really like the instant rendering times of Filatoon in Daz Studio.

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    edited October 2024

    I'm really enjoying bringing out older figures and rendering them with Filatoon. This is the Star! Original Figure by Lady Littlefox: https://www.daz3d.com/star-original-figure

     

     

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642
    edited October 2024

    Awesome, @3Diva

    I have also accumulated a large collection of Lady Littlefox

    and the previous generations of the 3D figures during the years.

    It is great to see that they still works so well.

     

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    edited October 2024

    Artini said:

    Awesome, @3Diva

    I have also accumulated a large collection of Lady Littlefox

    and the previous generations of the 3D figures during the years.

    It is great to see that they still works so well.

    Thank you! And I agree that it's great to see the older stuff working so well! And it seems like a lot of the pre-Iray textures appear to render a bit better with Filatoon rendering. :) 

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  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,432

    One reason you can make pre-g8 characters look better with Filatoon, is because you can get away with using zero textures on them. Lips, nipples, nails, the individual portions of the eyes all have their own material zones. As in, you could just assign those a solid color and your off to the races. This translates very well into something like a toon shader, where lack of detail works in your favor. To this end, when I am using a hair model in Filatoon, I strip it of all textures, save for the cap opacity map. Between the outline, rim color and shadow smooth setting, I get plenty of detail.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699

    vrba79 said:

    One reason you can make pre-g8 characters look better with Filatoon, is because you can get away with using zero textures on them. Lips, nipples, nails, the individual portions of the eyes all have their own material zones. As in, you could just assign those a solid color and your off to the races. This translates very well into something like a toon shader, where lack of detail works in your favor. To this end, when I am using a hair model in Filatoon, I strip it of all textures, save for the cap opacity map. Between the outline, rim color and shadow smooth setting, I get plenty of detail.

    Those are great tips! Thank you. By the way, I'm so tickled pink to see you back in the forums and posting again! I've missed your fun NPR work!

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    edited November 2024

    I'm loving rendering the older figures with Filatoon. Here's the original The Girl figure https://www.daz3d.com/the-girl

     

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  • David RDavid R Posts: 318

    3Diva said:

    I'm loving rendering the older figures with Filatoon. Here's the original The Girl figure https://www.daz3d.com/the-girl

     

    I love how these look hand drawn and not like a 3D image trying to look hand drawn. 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    edited November 2024

    David R said:

    3Diva said:

    I'm loving rendering the older figures with Filatoon. Here's the original The Girl figure https://www.daz3d.com/the-girl

     

    I love how these look hand drawn and not like a 3D image trying to look hand drawn. 

    Thank you! The figure helps a lot with that hand-drawn look, I think. The original "The Girl" figure is stylized so well! :D

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    edited November 2024

    Here's another sneak peek at one of the other styles that my product will be able to create.

    Before and After my shader presets and draw settings:

     

     

     

     

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,779
    edited December 2024

    Did my first NPR book rendered in DAZ. Really happy with the stats. The ebook is free today if you guys want to check it out. It's number two right now.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699

    @ArtAngel That's a cute looking book! Congrats on the success of it!

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642
    edited December 2024
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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699
    @Artini That's a cool character- looks like a scene from an ancient fable or myth.
  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642

    Thanks for the comments, @3Diva

    I am trying different items from my library to check, how well they convert to FilaToon.

     

  • Hello everyone,
    a cool thread that I like to follow because I also really like filatoon.
    I'm actually looking for answers to a specific topic that I haven't found here. If my question doesn't belong here, maybe someone has a tip where I could find answers.
    So: I keep trying to convert normal figures into filatoon and usually have problems with the eyes, as you can see in the picture. The pupils are not big enough and I can't enlarge them. Could it be that this doesn't work so well on morphed figures? That I have to use simpler figures? I haven't actually managed to get the eyes right on any normal figure. Does anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? I am happy about every tip :-).

    The light isn´t the problem ;-). I didn´t change it at the moment. It´s from the original iray render.

    Best regards, Samara Blue/Kerstin Ellinghoven
    P.S. I use an automatic translator and hope that the text is understandable.
    Otherwise, have a good new year!

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  • Nice image :-) Is it possible to see an original iray render? ´Cause I want to see how the feathers look like ...

    Artini said:

    More experiments with FilaToon and the converter:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/713956/released-v3d-filatoon-converter-manager-and-tools-commercial#latest

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,699

    lady-sahmara-photo said:

    Hello everyone,
    a cool thread that I like to follow because I also really like filatoon.
    I'm actually looking for answers to a specific topic that I haven't found here. If my question doesn't belong here, maybe someone has a tip where I could find answers.
    So: I keep trying to convert normal figures into filatoon and usually have problems with the eyes, as you can see in the picture. The pupils are not big enough and I can't enlarge them. Could it be that this doesn't work so well on morphed figures? That I have to use simpler figures? I haven't actually managed to get the eyes right on any normal figure. Does anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? I am happy about every tip :-).

    The light isn´t the problem ;-). I didn´t change it at the moment. It´s from the original iray render.

    Best regards, Samara Blue/Kerstin Ellinghoven
    P.S. I use an automatic translator and hope that the text is understandable.
    Otherwise, have a good new year!

    Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

    I've seen that issue before - so I know that it's a common problem when not using the Base Anime Shape with the Anime Eyes. You might post the question in the Filatoon QA thread: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/704951/anime-toons-and-filatoon-shader-q-a#latest

    Someone might be able to help there. I do know that on the Floating Iris there are some morphs that you can dial in that might help a little bit.

  • 3Diva said:

    lady-sahmara-photo said:

    Hello everyone,
    a cool thread that I like to follow because I also really like filatoon.
    I'm actually looking for answers to a specific topic that I haven't found here. If my question doesn't belong here, maybe someone has a tip where I could find answers.
    So: I keep trying to convert normal figures into filatoon and usually have problems with the eyes, as you can see in the picture. The pupils are not big enough and I can't enlarge them. Could it be that this doesn't work so well on morphed figures? That I have to use simpler figures? I haven't actually managed to get the eyes right on any normal figure. Does anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? I am happy about every tip :-).

    The light isn´t the problem ;-). I didn´t change it at the moment. It´s from the original iray render.

    Best regards, Samara Blue/Kerstin Ellinghoven
    P.S. I use an automatic translator and hope that the text is understandable.
    Otherwise, have a good new year!

    Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

    I've seen that issue before - so I know that it's a common problem when not using the Base Anime Shape with the Anime Eyes. You might post the question in the Filatoon QA thread: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/704951/anime-toons-and-filatoon-shader-q-a#latest

    Someone might be able to help there. I do know that on the Floating Iris there are some morphs that you can dial in that might help a little bit.

    oh, thx :-)

  • Now I have translated many pages of DAZ explanations, especially about Filatoon. Unfortunately, I often don't understand the translation into German, especially the technical terms are always translated differently. I cannot assign the names of the various sliders or points in the parameter tab. Does anyone from the German-speaking world have a translation of the technical terms? Or a screenshot with a translation? It's probably a lot of work, but I would really like to familiarize myself further with this subject :-)
    Many thanks in advance and best regards

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642

    lady-sahmara-photo said:

    Nice image :-) Is it possible to see an original iray render? ´Cause I want to see how the feathers look like ...

    Artini said:

    More experiments with FilaToon and the converter:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/713956/released-v3d-filatoon-converter-manager-and-tools-commercial#latest

    I do not have a full scene in iray, but below is how wings looks like with iray materials rendered with Viewport :

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642
    edited December 2024

    lady-sahmara-photo said:

    Nice image :-) Is it possible to see an original iray render? ´Cause I want to see how the feathers look like ...

    Artini said:

    More experiments with FilaToon and the converter:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/713956/released-v3d-filatoon-converter-manager-and-tools-commercial#latest

    I do not have a full scene in iray, but below is how wings looks like with iray materials rendered with Viewport :

    The wings are from:

    https://www.daz3d.com/celestial-angel-wearables-and-wings-mega-set-for-genesis-9

    and I like them very much.

     

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,642
    edited December 2024

    The scene with Hiro 5 and part of:
    https://www.daz3d.com/frozen-lake-cabin
    rendered with FilaToon.

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