PC+ Exclusive Item! Restaurant Crime Scene!

CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
edited September 2021 in The Commons

https://www.daz3d.com/restaurant-crime-scene

Well, it surely is well made. And the price tag surely is hefty. And the location surely is Hong Kong.

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  • I know it's a converted Unreal, Unity asset but pity there isn't a noncrime version one can sit down and eat in as well, for before the crime happens 

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,057

    Price is much too high for PC+

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    edited September 2021

    I know it's a converted Unreal, Unity asset but pity there isn't a noncrime version one can sit down and eat in as well, for before the crime happens 

    Yeah damage has been done lol. A non-crime version would also be fantastic
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  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    edited September 2021
    gerster said:

    Price is much too high for PC+

    I can't say it's not justified, but IIRC we never have a pc+ item/bundle over $20, so $29.95 for an item really gave me a shock
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  • The concept is that it's like a Daz Orignal, but exclusively for PC+ members. That said, we dropped the price from what it would be as a regular DO.

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183

    The concept is that it's like a Daz Orignal, but exclusively for PC+ members. That said, we dropped the price from what it would be as a regular DO.

    I know Jack. The original price is like, almost the price of a DO bundle, so it's a sharp cut in price.
  • I really like the products that Dekogon produces, and Polish does a good job converting them to DAZ, but that is insanely overpriced. In terms of use, the environment is very limited. If it had a clean version as well, it would be more useful and would go futher in justifying the price tag. DAZ prices seem to be creeping up and up, but this one is a bit much.

  • I can see the value in it, especially knowing the prices charged for the game assets and how difficult they are to export with textures from Unreal.

    but

    yeah I am unlikely to find a use for the trashed one myself 

    not saying others won't, zombies, thugs and other scenarios are popular 

  • This product has an RRP on Unreal of US$64.99 but on DAZ it's $99.95. If it was sold at the Unreal RRP and at 70% off, it would make it $20. Still a bit rich for my tastes (just because I don't have a specific use for it), but a much better price point for those that want it. And much more in line with DAZ environment prices.

  • bmosalt said:

    This product has an RRP on Unreal of US$64.99 but on DAZ it's $99.95. If it was sold at the Unreal RRP and at 70% off, it would make it $20. Still a bit rich for my tastes (just because I don't have a specific use for it), but a much better price point for those that want it. And much more in line with DAZ environment prices.

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

  • CHWT said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    The concept is that it's like a Daz Orignal, but exclusively for PC+ members. That said, we dropped the price from what it would be as a regular DO.

    I know Jack. The original price is like, almost the price of a DO bundle, so it's a sharp cut in price.

    It's not replacing anything - and it's not going to be a weekly thing.. there will still be 4 PC+ items etc.. so it's purley an extra exclusive bonus. 

  • The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    That not-really-70-percent-off thought also crossed my mind. Oh well.
  • Always interests me to see how these are converted from a useful modular kit... list of the original Unreal assets below.

    https://www.notion.so/Restaurant-Crime-Scene-8551ef651a6d432d9d5c1462aeaf4fca

     

  • bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,712
    edited September 2021

    Never mind. :)

    Post edited by Phoenix1966 on
  • dortybassa said:

    Always interests me to see how these are converted from a useful modular kit... list of the original Unreal assets below.

    https://www.notion.so/Restaurant-Crime-Scene-8551ef651a6d432d9d5c1462aeaf4fca

     

    that is a limit of DAZ Studio's importing

    I get them into Carrara and iClone in bits no worry (but Carrara I need to change every single material name as they are too long and cannot save) 

    Hexagon might import in bits, I never tried,

    not got this set but I am continually importing Unreal assets I buy or are free for the month into DAZ and my other softwares so well aware of the pitfalls

    I would still buy this if I had use for it, might still at a later date if still available

  • 3DMinh3DMinh Posts: 260
    edited September 2021

    Hmm ... Compared to other items on Daz, this is expensive. As expensive as a Stonemason set (and as beautiful too). The problem is because it is a PC+ item, no other discount can be applied to it (now and probably ever). So it is almost double the price of other similiar items (quality/quantity) when they're on sales.

    I'd pass.

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  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,057

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

  • gerster said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

    29.95 is expensive?

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,872

    It looks really well made, as to be expected from this vendor, but unfortunately I just can't imagine any uses I might have for it. Like others already said, it's a pity there's only the crime scene version, but even with a 'clean' restaurant to go along - I just don't do restaurant scenes all that often, and there's not much to kitbash in here. So, lovely product for sure, just not my kind of thing, sadly.

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    edited September 2021

    gerster said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

    29.95 is expensive?

    It's psychological effect. If it's not a PC+ item, it's not expensive. Although I would say loss of modular nature after converting into DS format does diminish its value by a little.
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  • CHWT said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    gerster said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

    29.95 is expensive?

    It's psychological effect. If it not PC+, it's not expensive. Although I would say loss of modular nature after converting into DS format does diminish its value by a little.

    As I said earlier, the concept is that it's like a Daz Orignal, but exclusively for PC+ members.  I thought it was something cool to offer, and we'll see how it sells :)  but yea, the chance of a product like this, being in the PC+ at 7.99/9.99 is very very slim.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,949

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    gerster said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

    29.95 is expensive?

    For some people - who are on a strict financial budget - it is.

    Not everybody working with DAZ makes money from it. Some still seem to do their renders only as a hobby - I know, might come as a shock...

    Doesn't mean that the product wouldn't be worth that price. A Lamborghini is also probably worth the € 250,000.- one might have to dish out for it, it's just not in a financial area that many people could afford.

    So "expensive" is a quite negotiable and personal definition.

    For me those not quite $ 30.- for the set aren't expensive, because I have no use for that set anyway... neither for a Lamborghini... so to me the prices of both do not matter a bit. wink

  • maikdecker said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    gerster said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

    29.95 is expensive?

    For some people - who are on a strict financial budget - it is.

    Not everybody working with DAZ makes money from it. Some still seem to do their renders only as a hobby - I know, might come as a shock...

    Doesn't mean that the product wouldn't be worth that price. A Lamborghini is also probably worth the € 250,000.- one might have to dish out for it, it's just not in a financial area that many people could afford.

    So "expensive" is a quite negotiable and personal definition.

    For me those not quite $ 30.- for the set aren't expensive, because I have no use for that set anyway... neither for a Lamborghini... so to me the prices of both do not matter a bit. wink

    Heh, no I totally get different people have different budgets.. but I hope those on tighter budgets can forgive us for trying to cater for all.  For those on a limited budget, there are 2 weekly freebies out today, plus a megapack, so plenty of stuff to grab for free.

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 843

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    dortybassa said:

    Always interests me to see how these are converted from a useful modular kit... list of the original Unreal assets below.

    https://www.notion.so/Restaurant-Crime-Scene-8551ef651a6d432d9d5c1462aeaf4fca

     

    that is a limit of DAZ Studio's importing

    I get them into Carrara and iClone in bits no worry (but Carrara I need to change every single material name as they are too long and cannot save) 

    Hexagon might import in bits, I never tried,

    not got this set but I am continually importing Unreal assets I buy or are free for the month into DAZ and my other softwares so well aware of the pitfalls

    I would still buy this if I had use for it, might still at a later date if still available

    Some (most) of the free items are not UE only? I get the monthly free items too (I'm hoarding up items everywhere.)

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,057

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    gerster said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

    29.95 is expensive?

    yes, it's expensive compared to other new non PC+ products. Alchemy Lab is e.g. $16.77 https://www.daz3d.com/alchemy-lab

    We are used to, that PC+ products have a pretty low price tag - thats for me the hohle idea of PC+. And that's why I don't think the concept will work to ask fir a PC+ item the double price of an average non PC+ new product.

  • mcorrmcorr Posts: 1,093
    edited September 2021

    DAZ doesn't seem to be fully appreciative of the fact that it has driven a no-holds-bar ... blow-out-price strategy ... and people have become addictively use to that. Quality for an often painfully (to the PAs) low price -- hopefully compensated and made up for by volume sales, as well as heavy discounts on already released products (through, for example, Blink Sales when Debut items aren't flying off the digital shelves) -- is what folks now expect. Good luck abandoning that business model in the midst of the economic situation. I see a real disconnect here. As far as I know, artists -- who are the main customers at DAZ -- aren't the richest people on earth, unless they have inherited money, are independently rich or work for a large (in the creativity busness) company. I seriously doubt that all these new marketing schemes (and constant bundles trying to drive higher sales) will be wildly successful. It would have made more money to give everybody access to the Restuarant Crime scene, instead of trying to instrumentalise it to increase PC+ sales, or hoping people will take on debt by joining monthly payment plans.

    Post edited by mcorr on
  • mcorrmcorr Posts: 1,093
    edited September 2021

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    maikdecker said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    gerster said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    bmosalt said:

    The 99.95 is a placeholder, in theory non-PC+ members shouldn't be able to add it to their cart?

    hmmmm... kind of misleading then. Seems like DAZ wants to convey the great deal of a 70% discount whilst still charging $30.

    Anyway, my final gripe before I leave it be is, because it's a PC+ item you can't use the monthly coupon to allay the cost a bit.

    Moving on.

    Not at all.. I was actually under the impression the non-PC price would not be even be hown (since it's not available to non-members).  I can adjust it down if it makes people feel better :)

    The issue is not the non-PC price, it's the PC price.
    However, I'm anyways not intrested in that product. So, you charge what ever you want. But I think this product is highly overprices, compared to other, non PC products.

    29.95 is expensive?

    For some people - who are on a strict financial budget - it is.

    Not everybody working with DAZ makes money from it. Some still seem to do their renders only as a hobby - I know, might come as a shock...

    Doesn't mean that the product wouldn't be worth that price. A Lamborghini is also probably worth the € 250,000.- one might have to dish out for it, it's just not in a financial area that many people could afford.

    So "expensive" is a quite negotiable and personal definition.

    For me those not quite $ 30.- for the set aren't expensive, because I have no use for that set anyway... neither for a Lamborghini... so to me the prices of both do not matter a bit. wink

    Heh, no I totally get different people have different budgets.. but I hope those on tighter budgets can forgive us for trying to cater for all.  For those on a limited budget, there are 2 weekly freebies out today, plus a megapack, so plenty of stuff to grab for free.

    You mean free plants every week (lol) ... that's a big bonus!

    Post edited by mcorr on
  • I don't see the point of this; the only reason for exclusives in my eyes is to attract folks to joing the PC group. How can that ever work with an item priced in such a way only big spenders will ever touch... the ones that are already PC anyway?

    And about the price being too high... as a starter price it many not be so, but if the usual discounts that can be applied to other items are a no go, then yes, it's extremely expensive.

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