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  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152
    edited October 2021

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    most of the time though you only need 2 walls and a floor or ceiling depending on camera angle and some furniture.

    Photographers and cinematographers manage with that so why can't 3D render artists? 

    I was a feature film union set decorator and 360' of almost every room was camera ready.  It was the same with TV series, other than sitcoms because one side of the set was open to the audience.  I don't remember any movie where the art directer said "just decorate a corner".  Maybe in 1930's Hollywood studios they just built corners. 
     

    Edit:  I take that back.  You're right.  On scenes that rely on special effects, often only a fragment of the set is constructed.  Also on TV commercials, sets are built to be viewed from a limited number of angles, so a corner may be all that is put together.  In movies, when they turn the camera around to show the point of view from another character, there has to be a complete room behind them.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,580

    I guess then most here intend rendering movies cheeky

     

  • sunnyjeisunnyjei Posts: 502
    I can only speak for myself but I want to do a comic style project so it means being able to return to the same room and create renders from different angles. Some houses come furnished so that's easier for me to work with and stay consistent. Also furnished rooms give me an easy starting point even if it's just one render. 2 walls a floor and ceiling also work at times too. Another plus for furnished interiors means mostly style wise everything looks good together and makes sense (ex:-retro house with similar furniture and decor) Thanks to all that have posted links especially, my wishlist has gotten fuller and so has the number of ideas those sets have sparked :)
  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I guess then most here intend rendering movies cheeky

     

    I think, here, that those who are doing comic books, probably need 360' interiors because the same interiors are used over and over again and you can't keep showing the same angle of the room, also, the style of a lot of comic books use some of the same conventions as movies where you change the point-of-view to match a character's point of view, which means turning the camera around.  
     

    Alfred Hitchcock was notorious for only having a limited amount of a room constructed so his producer couldn't force him to film shots from angles other than those on Hitchcock's own storyboards.

    You're right, lots of renders only need a corner or a portion of a room.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,967

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I guess then most here intend rendering movies cheeky

    Graphic novels also need shots from quite a lot angles.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,580

    LOL I would struggle to render all this in DAZ studio and most of it is separate sets even in other softwares

    but then I do admittedly have a crappy rig cheeky

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    I like enclosed rooms only because of the way the light bounces more realistically.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,084

    A lot of older Poser sets look pretty amazing when converted to Iray, especially when you take the time to tweak them a little.  I rendently used Jack Tomalin's now ancient (in DAZ terms) Redhouse Sweet shop for a Victorian interior and it looked amazing once I replaced the floor with Iray wood shader.  

    All that said, I agree that it's a pain, and I'm not really sure which frustrates me more... getting an elaborate exterior that has no interior, or getting an intricate interior that has no matching exterior.  

       

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Cybersox said:

    A lot of older Poser sets look pretty amazing when converted to Iray, especially when you take the time to tweak them a little.  I rendently used Jack Tomalin's now ancient (in DAZ terms) Redhouse Sweet shop for a Victorian interior and it looked amazing once I replaced the floor with Iray wood shader.  

    All that said, I agree that it's a pain, and I'm not really sure which frustrates me more... getting an elaborate exterior that has no interior, or getting an intricate interior that has no matching exterior.  

       

    Maybe I'm the odd man out, but I never had a problem changing older sets that I love (ie Faveral's and Stonemason's) over to Iray. I did it with Stoney's Abandoned Warehouse and Faveral's Opus Magnum. Took me hours for each one. I enjoy that kinda thing tho. LOL 

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,065

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I guess then most here intend rendering movies cheeky

     

    Not all of us render movies or just do single renders.. My main use for Daz Studio is rendering panels for comics that I create..

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,580

    while I understand being someone who actually uses completely furnished albeit lower poly than most DAZ studio users would be happy with sets for videos, I do have to wonder what sort of computers you all own that can load fully funished interiors and exteriors whether you render that other room or not, something modular like Strangefate and Rogey make I could understand.

    Their European apartment being a good example like JTs old  dreamhome where you can just load separate fully funished rooms in situ as you need them.

    Maybe they could do a Victorian Mansion next.

    I would buy it too BTW, wasn't saying I didn't want what everyone else is asking for just making unwanted suggestions of how one can work around it in the meantime devil

     

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152
    edited October 2021

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    while I understand being someone who actually uses completely furnished albeit lower poly than most DAZ studio users would be happy with sets for videos, I do have to wonder what sort of computers you all own that can load fully funished interiors and exteriors whether you render that other room or not, something modular like Strangefate and Rogey make I could understand.

    Their European apartment being a good example like JTs old  dreamhome where you can just load separate fully funished rooms in situ as you need them.

    Maybe they could do a Victorian Mansion next.

    I would buy it too BTW, wasn't saying I didn't want what everyone else is asking for just making unwanted suggestions of how one can work around it in the meantime devil

     

    I have a MacBook Pro.  You don't need an expensive computer.  You can write a best seller with a pencil.  It's not what you have that matters, it's what you do with what you have that matters.

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  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,065

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    while I understand being someone who actually uses completely furnished albeit lower poly than most DAZ studio users would be happy with sets for videos, I do have to wonder what sort of computers you all own that can load fully funished interiors and exteriors whether you render that other room or not, something modular like Strangefate and Rogey make I could understand.

    Their European apartment being a good example like JTs old  dreamhome where you can just load separate fully funished rooms in situ as you need them.

    Maybe they could do a Victorian Mansion next.

    I would buy it too BTW, wasn't saying I didn't want what everyone else is asking for just making unwanted suggestions of how one can work around it in the meantime devil

     

    I am running a I7 8700k with a 1070ti, so I have to make a lot of sacrifices when building scenes with iRay.. 3DL on the other hand I have no such problems, getting lighting right is the main hassle there..

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited October 2021

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    while I understand being someone who actually uses completely furnished albeit lower poly than most DAZ studio users would be happy with sets for videos, I do have to wonder what sort of computers you all own that can load fully funished interiors and exteriors whether you render that other room or not, something modular like Strangefate and Rogey make I could understand.

    Their European apartment being a good example like JTs old  dreamhome where you can just load separate fully funished rooms in situ as you need them.

    Maybe they could do a Victorian Mansion next.

    I would buy it too BTW, wasn't saying I didn't want what everyone else is asking for just making unwanted suggestions of how one can work around it in the meantime devil

     

    I have a 4 core Intel laptop with a 970m gfx card with 6 gigs and 16 gigs of ram. It can render most things, tho not always on the gfx card ;). I also have an HP Z620 with 64 gigs of ram, 2-8 core Xeons and a 980ti with 6 gigs. It can render most things, tho not always on the gfx card. LOL Neither machine is anything spectacular.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,580
    edited October 2021

    Ryzen 3 980ti for iray

    and an

    i7 4 core no graphics card my prefered Carrara native and 3Delight rig

    wink

    but yeah a fully furnished mansion would absolutely have to be modular for me

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  • lou_harperlou_harper Posts: 1,163

    My problem with this product is that even though I installed it with DIM, it doesn't show up in smart content. Super annoying. I'll try to reinstall usin Content Wizard.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,662

    lou_harper said:

    My problem with this product is that even though I installed it with DIM, it doesn't show up in smart content. Super annoying. I'll try to reinstall usin Content Wizard.

    This isn't a general thread about Blackwood manor, assuming that is the product you mean. For what it's worth, I installed through Connect and it is in Smart Content - do your files have content type tags (e.g. Set on the  complete presets)? If not it may be that the metadata was not written - for example, of you close DS and start DIM the timing of events can lead to PostgreSQL not running during the install - so it may be worth uninstalling and reinstalling. If the issue does persist please report it to support.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,084

    lou_harper said:

    My problem with this product is that even though I installed it with DIM, it doesn't show up in smart content. Super annoying. I'll try to reinstall usin Content Wizard.

    I've always felt that ther execution of DAZ's smart content made it a bit of an oxymoron and, given that a huge portion of the products that I own don't work with it anyway, gave up on it years ago.   

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