Pablo 8.1

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  • Wonderland said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Diomede said:

    The supposed incentive to get up to 5 items for $3.50 each has many items from the PC for a Day sale, so $3.50 is actually MORE expensive.  I do like the character as a stand alone.  I will wait and see if there is a better pile of goodies tomorrow, but probably not getting the bundle.

    As far as I can see the offer is open to non-members too, and for them those items will not be $1.99.

    Yeah but this is PC+ sale and there’s literally no incentive to buy with the current offer. 

    Ignore the $3.50 items and assess the rest of the offer - I'd forgotten there was an offer of $3.50 items and still put him in the cart.

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    edited October 2021

    Is Day of the Dead & Halloween the same thing?

    No. Halloween is like a European/pagan celebration that got popular in the United States, though in a way that it just became about candy and dress up. Day of the Dead is All Souls' Day (Nov. 2) but mixed with some indigenous/Mexican customs. (Month-long celebration put into one day.)
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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,497

    "Is Day of the Dead & Halloween the same thing?"

    Nope,  Halloween is a verion of the Christian holiday, All Hallows Eve, and probably has its roots in the Celtic Pagan Samhain, while Day of the Dead is vaguely linked to All Hallows Eve but is much more a celebration of lost loved ones and is probably derived from the  Pre-Columbian holiday, 
    Quecholli.

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,497
    edited October 2021

    Pablo and Diego

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  • SBibbSBibb Posts: 599
    edited October 2021

    nonesuch00 said:

    Is Day of the Dead & Halloween the same thing?

    No, Day of the Dead is a seperate holiday that honors family members (and friends) who have passed on, though it has a more festive atmosphere. I'm not the best to explain it, but look up "Dia de los Muertos." It's particularly common among those with Mexican heritage or influences from Mexican culture.

     

    Halloween, at least in the US culture that I've experienced, tends to be more of a spooky fun holiday with dressing up in costumes and trick or treating, or themed parties, but less of an emphasis on honoring family members or friends. That said, it evolved from various other holidays, such as Samhain, All Hallows Day, or All Saints' Day.

    Edit: Looks like MimicMolly and nemesis10 beat me to the post. But yeah, what they said. :-)

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited October 2021

    Diego looks a bit more realistic to me. Pablo has a TINY little mouth. LOL There's just something not quite right there. Pablo's coloring is a lttle better tho.

     

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  • Richard Haseltine said:

    Wonderland said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Diomede said:

    The supposed incentive to get up to 5 items for $3.50 each has many items from the PC for a Day sale, so $3.50 is actually MORE expensive.  I do like the character as a stand alone.  I will wait and see if there is a better pile of goodies tomorrow, but probably not getting the bundle.

    As far as I can see the offer is open to non-members too, and for them those items will not be $1.99.

    Yeah but this is PC+ sale and there’s literally no incentive to buy with the current offer. 

    Ignore the $3.50 items and assess the rest of the offer - I'd forgotten there was an offer of $3.50 items and still put him in the cart.

    Is the $10 coupon for any Daz Original or just whatever is selected for us to choose from? Sometimes the selection is really small. 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,161

    some people have tiny little mouths. 

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,304

    And every 'ethnic' group comes in a variety of sizes, shapes, colors, and textures. There is no one type for any people from a certain region. Unless it is an isolated village that has cross-bred for the past fifty generations with no fresh blood and all eat the same food...

    The world is a wonderful diverse place.

    @nemesis10 like your contrast between the two very much. Both could easily be on the streets of Denver.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,673
    edited October 2021

    For me it isn't the size of the features it's that Pablo has that genesis 8.1 doughy lip thing going on, he simply needs some hd. He kind of looks like a sims Pixar character.

     

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  • melaniemelanie Posts: 794

    I just tried a test render of Pablo and I see that his skin doesn't really work right. His lips are wrong. The lip color bleeds up above the top of his lip line, so it looks wrong. I tried putting another character's skin on him and it looks much better. Has anyone else noticed this?

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,673

    Yeah, the lips look off to me as well.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,050

    Serene Night said:

    For me it isn't the size of the features it's that Pablo has that genesis 8.1 doughy lip thing going on, he simply needs some hd. He kind of looks like a sims Pixar character.

     That's what I thought.

  • Yeah, on a second look, not a fan of his lip texture at all. I still really like his features, though. 

  • ragamuffin57ragamuffin57 Posts: 132
    edited October 2021

    Far to toony or AllenArt previously said too stylised

    perhaps the new art director is trying to be more inclusive and gender-neutral with this offering.  Because he has no character!

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,673

    It's just the lip texture is incongruous with the skin, and the lips have no definition. Its kind of hidden in pics with the beard.

    The way g8.1 sort of does that malleable dough mouth, it just looks bad without HD. Its like everyone has the same lips pasted on. Its a strange look on the men in particular. 

  • ragamuffin57 said:

    Far to toony or AllenArt previously said too stylised

    perhaps the new art director is trying to be more inclusive and gender-neutral with this offering.  Because he has no character!

    Where is all this "new art director" stuff coming from?

  • About the 1.99 items being in the 3.50 bin as well, I had stuff in my cart all day, just got home and looked at it again and found the stuff that was in both categories jumped from 1.99 up to 3.50. I took the Pablo bundle out and they went back down to 1.99. So if you plan on getting stuff that is in the 3.50 and 1.99 bins, don't get it with the Pablo bundle, maybe load them in first before the Pablo bundle to see if they show up for 1.99 first or not. Maybe it's a glitch and will get fixed, I don't know, but just figured I'd mention it to double check before spending more than you're supposed to. 

  • MadaMada Posts: 2,022
    edited October 2021

    MimicMolly said:

    PixelSploiting said:

    MimicMolly said:

    PixelSploiting said:

     Love the character, not in need of the rest of the bundle. Ain't no mariachis in the bright far future.

    You underestimate Cyberpunk!Mexico.
    Thrown out of the closest airlock for their refusal of playing synthpop, I'm sorry.

    Synthpop must suck as a genre if it can't incorporate "ethnic beats" the way metal can, for example. The future [of music] is truly doomed. But then, I shouldn't expect anything less from a generic Cyberpunk Dystopia. :P

    Noska, Juan Carlos, Milawa, and Niko must team up to save DAZland, and they've inadvertently taken poor Pablo along for the ride. Maybe this is where Jacqueline and her friends come in. It's the crossover event these bundles have been hinting at all along...

    That's a story I would like to see lol - Runtime soap operas :P

    Richard Haseltine said:

    ragamuffin57 said:

    Far to toony or AllenArt previously said too stylised

    perhaps the new art director is trying to be more inclusive and gender-neutral with this offering.  Because he has no character!

    Where is all this "new art director" stuff coming from?

    I'm curious too :)  

    I realised this morning I forgot to add dforce to the Mariachi outfit title, it works fine as a full conforming outfit - but the jacket will look more natural with folds and drapes if its dforced for poses where the arms lift up and natural movement pulls one side away - that's just not possible to do with regular rigging. I also made the buttons on the pants hidden with one click of a button, so it can be used as regular pants and shirt too. :)

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,673

    No new art director. No art director worth their salt would have the same female kitsune  picture on the splash page for aeons without rotating it by now.

  • MadaMada Posts: 2,022

    Serene Night said:

    No new art director. No art director worth their salt would have the same female kitsune  picture on the splash page for aeons without rotating it by now.

    mmm - ok  you had me curious but couldn't see the kitsune picture... I always log into the forums with a link so never look at the splash page. I'm not seeing her on this page : https://www.daz3d.com/ - link to the splash page? thank you :)
     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,673
    edited October 2021

    Lol. She's right there in all her white hair blow out glory.You linked to her. Lol. Don't make me look. On iPad she is huge and takes up the entire screen. I'm over her. Surely some new art please.

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  • MadaMada Posts: 2,022
    edited October 2021

    oh I think I see what's going on - I have a video showing in that spot but when I went to the page now for a very small split second I could see an image :)
    It must be mobile version related and its not playing the video on ipads.
    edit : yep I see her on my iphone. Mystery solved :)

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,309

    MimicMolly said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    Is Day of the Dead & Halloween the same thing?

    No. Halloween is like a European/pagan celebration that got popular in the United States, though in a way that it just became about candy and dress up. Day of the Dead is All Souls' Day (Nov. 2) but mixed with some indigenous/Mexican customs. (Month-long celebration put into one day.)
    OK, thanks. So it sounds almost like All Saints Day which I've always known to fall on November 1st.
  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,673
    edited October 2021

    It is the main page for the store and has one male monster and half a dozen pretty girls.  I just think they should mix it up a bit more. But it is what it is I guess.

     

     

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  • luci45luci45 Posts: 2,781

    melanie said:

    I just tried a test render of Pablo and I see that his skin doesn't really work right. His lips are wrong. The lip color bleeds up above the top of his lip line, so it looks wrong. I tried putting another character's skin on him and it looks much better. Has anyone else noticed this?

    That's why I didn't buy this one, just the upper lip. He is really good-looking otherwise.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,673

    I think Pablo really needs HD. I mean really desperately. I wonder why it wasn't included or at least some more details in the sculpt or maps to make up for it.

    His head reminds me a lot of Michelangelo's David or of that artist who used to draw Tarzan... Hogarth's work. Same brooding eyes, roman nose, chin, and mouth. 

    His genetics though blend nicely with others. 

    He doesn't load with his fiber mesh brows but with really dark painted on brows. I think that's a mistake. The fibermesh... Are so much better. 

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,492

    Another Hispanic character who looks like he came straight from Southern Europe. Somewhat stylized, and not even particularly good looking to my taste. Sorry, Pablito.

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    nemesis10 said:

    Pablo and Diego

    Diego wins hands down.
  • sidsid Posts: 458

    He's a little bit smooth, even for me who never buys the HD. Some weirdness with the texture, and I haven't been able to apply other 8.1 eye textures without the iris appearing under-sized. (Possible operator error).

    He's more caucasian than I would have hoped. Default:

    My hamfisted slider fiddling to try make his skin one more interesting (anyone got any tips?). Also half the resoulution compare to the the default portrait above.

    With Juan Carlos (who has a nice sculpt but his head always looked too big to me!)

     

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