Will this make it to 2022 Sales Thread:Report Issues Here "There's Always Another Sale™"

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,541
    edited November 2021

    15% off 30% off means 0.85 * 0.7 = 0.595 or 59.5%, rounded to 60%, or 40% off, because they don't show fractional discounts, but final price will be 59.5% of the original, or 40.5% off.

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  • gsil247 said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    gsil247 said:

    So the extra 15% off for todays deals does not work for any product in the selection, nor does buying 2 give me an extra 10% off the Master Swordmans bundle. The two Daz products went from 51% percent off (which they normally are when they release), to 58% off. Thats only a 7% increase, not 15%. Speaking of, it says if you purchase two, you are to receive an extra 10% off the Master Swordsmans bundle, which that did not as well. I also logged off and tried it without my PC+ membership, and the two Daz items went from 30% to 40%. Also not the 15% and only a 10%. 

    15% off ~50% off is another 7.5% of the base price off. That's how percentages combine. Similarly the extra 10% on the bundle will be 10% of whatever it is discounted at that point, not 10% of the initial price.

    So by that logic, why does the 30% orignally off become 40% off after the discount? 15% of 30% is not 10% off the original price. Also theres a PC+ item on there that only adds 2% off the base price. Sorry, but your mistaken. Thanks anyways for trying to help. I'll probably just have to submit a ticket and see if customer service can help. Thanks anyways for your time.

    You don't have the master Swordsman Bundle in your cart, so there's nothing to take 10% off.

  • gsil247gsil247 Posts: 224
    edited November 2021

    Richard Haseltine said:

    gsil247 said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    gsil247 said:

    So the extra 15% off for todays deals does not work for any product in the selection, nor does buying 2 give me an extra 10% off the Master Swordmans bundle. The two Daz products went from 51% percent off (which they normally are when they release), to 58% off. Thats only a 7% increase, not 15%. Speaking of, it says if you purchase two, you are to receive an extra 10% off the Master Swordsmans bundle, which that did not as well. I also logged off and tried it without my PC+ membership, and the two Daz items went from 30% to 40%. Also not the 15% and only a 10%. 

    15% off ~50% off is another 7.5% of the base price off. That's how percentages combine. Similarly the extra 10% on the bundle will be 10% of whatever it is discounted at that point, not 10% of the initial price.

    So by that logic, why does the 30% orignally off become 40% off after the discount? 15% of 30% is not 10% off the original price. Also theres a PC+ item on there that only adds 2% off the base price. Sorry, but your mistaken. Thanks anyways for trying to help. I'll probably just have to submit a ticket and see if customer service can help. Thanks anyways for your time.

    You don't have the master Swordsman Bundle in your cart, so there's nothing to take 10% off.

    Thats not what I'm talking about, as I only used the bundle to show other occurences. I'm talking about the so called, "Extra 15% off New Daz Original Items." An item is 30% off, but the promotion says take an extra 15% off. How would they get to 40% off overall instead of 45% (30+15 = 45), that it should show. And to the guy above you (sorry, I don't know how to double quote), I'm not the greatest at math, but 15% of 30% is not 0.85 like you have it, its 0.045. I had to use Google because again, my math isn't the best. Maybe one of the calculations from Daz is the correct and intended way, but I'm just showing there is inconsistency. Again, it doesn't seem like the problem is going to be solved here so I went ahead and just emailed customer support. 

    Thank you anyways for trying to assistance in this matter. 

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,541

    It's not 15% x 30%, it is as I indicated 0.85 x 0.70. Your example shows a 4.5% result. Is that what you see in the cart?

    30% off is (100% - 30%) = 70% of the original price.

    15% off is (100% - 15%) = 85% of the remaining price.

    Combine the two for, say, a $30 original price. The 30% Off price is ($30 * 0.7) = $21. Another 15% off is ($21 * 0.85) = $17.85

    $17.85 / $30 = 0.595, 59.5% of the original price, which is 40.5% off. It's not your math that is wrong, it is your concept of how discounts stack up. They are not additive. If you go to any store where something is at, say, 50% OFF, and they advertise all sale items are an additional 50% off, do you think they will give it for free? No, they will be at 75% off. This argument comes up every month, and you will never win it.

  • gsil247gsil247 Posts: 224

    NorthOf45 said:

    It's not 15% x 30%, it is as I indicated 0.85 x 0.70. Your example shows a 4.5% result. Is that what you see in the cart?

    30% off is (100% - 30%) = 70% of the original price.

    15% off is (100% - 15%) = 85% of the remaining price.

    Combine the two for, say, a $30 original price. The 30% Off price is ($30 * 0.7) = $21. Another 15% off is ($21 * 0.85) = $17.85

    $17.85 / $30 = 0.595, 59.5% of the original price, which is 40.5% off. It's not your math that is wrong, it is your concept of how discounts stack up. They are not additive. If you go to any store where something is at, say, 50% OFF, and they advertise all sale items are an additional 50% off, do you think they will give it for free? No, they will be at 75% off. This argument comes up every month, and you will never win it.

    Ok I'm not trying to argue with you or anyone here, I'm saying there are inconsistency here which I'm still seeing. I like having deals, but they just aren't consistent which is throwing me off. Sorry if you are taking it the wrong way. So I'll say this again, thank you for your time and have a wonderful day.

  • @gsil247

    DAZ indeed sometimes messes up the discounts, but in this case @NorthOf45 gave you a good breakdown on the math. There are no issues with the example you presented. Now I have a possible reason as to why you may think there are inconsistencies with some of the discounts you see. You have to keep an eye whenever you see the word "EXTRA" attached to a discount. When this is the case, what it means is that that EXTRA discount will be applied to the price after any other discount (as described by NorthOf45) and not the original price (as you are expecting). 

    For example, as a PC member any new purchase comes with a 30% off and if the product is a DAZ orignal it has an EXTRA 30% off. Why is the Master Swordsman at 51% and not 60%? Because these discounts work as extra. Also, you don't add or multiply the discount but instead the remaining portion.

    Each discount give you a 30% off, that is 100% - 30% = 70%. Seventy is the remaining portion, therefore you multiply the 70% x 70% which translate into 49%. That 49% represents the remaining portion of the orignal price therefore 100 - 49 = 51%.

    Another example are the prices at the featured artist. Most of them are at 60% while some others at 72% if you are a PC member. Is the same principle:

    100 - 60 = 40% from the sale and 100 - 30 = 70% from PC membership (EXTRA). Therefore 40% x 70% = 28% which is why you see 72% off (100 - 28).

    Hope this helps.

     

  • ericolsen said:

    My 10% off coupon code that's good all week is not working with the $10 female characters nor the $2.99 items in the current sale. 

    I second this. The only time I tried mine (8% off) was on the $2.99 products and it didn't work.

    Cheers. 

  • N00b4Ever said:

    ericolsen said:

    My 10% off coupon code that's good all week is not working with the $10 female characters nor the $2.99 items in the current sale. 

    I second this. The only time I tried mine (8% off) was on the $2.99 products and it didn't work.

    Cheers. 

    The $2.99 items are an absolute price, they don't stack with other adjustments.

  • Richard Haseltine said:

    N00b4Ever said:

    ericolsen said:

    My 10% off coupon code that's good all week is not working with the $10 female characters nor the $2.99 items in the current sale. 

    I second this. The only time I tried mine (8% off) was on the $2.99 products and it didn't work.

    Cheers. 

    The $2.99 items are an absolute price, they don't stack with other adjustments.

    Oh was it? I don't remember seeing the typical note stating it doesn't stack with any other offers. Nor the coupon exclude them in the small print.

    Anyways, the saving wasn't even a buck LOL so is not a big deal. 

    Thanks for the reply.

    Cheers. 

  • N00b4Ever said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    N00b4Ever said:

    ericolsen said:

    My 10% off coupon code that's good all week is not working with the $10 female characters nor the $2.99 items in the current sale. 

    I second this. The only time I tried mine (8% off) was on the $2.99 products and it didn't work.

    Cheers. 

    The $2.99 items are an absolute price, they don't stack with other adjustments.

    Oh was it? I don't remember seeing the typical note stating it doesn't stack with any other offers. Nor the coupon exclude them in the small print.

    Anyways, the saving wasn't even a buck LOL so is not a big deal. 

    Thanks for the reply.

    Cheers. 
     

    Sometime during the day they added the "does not stack with other discounts" fine print to the 2.99 banner. It wasn't there originally. They should really add that fine print to the 10% message they sent us, because it clearly says it's good on everything exceot FastGrab and PC memberships. It would help prevent hard feelings. 

  • The FLASH sale isn't working, and I can't find any of the "Mystic Mix New Releases" mentioned anywhere...

  • Is this flash sale banner a mistake?

  • Misselthwaite said:

    The FLASH sale isn't working, and I can't find any of the "Mystic Mix New Releases" mentioned anywhere...

    I was thinking the same thing. There's a ton of items not even discounted AT ALL 

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 843

    Come on... we are doing time travel again? :)

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  • ericolsen said:

    N00b4Ever said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    N00b4Ever said:

    ericolsen said:

    My 10% off coupon code that's good all week is not working with the $10 female characters nor the $2.99 items in the current sale. 

    I second this. The only time I tried mine (8% off) was on the $2.99 products and it didn't work.

    Cheers. 

    The $2.99 items are an absolute price, they don't stack with other adjustments.

    Oh was it? I don't remember seeing the typical note stating it doesn't stack with any other offers. Nor the coupon exclude them in the small print.

    Anyways, the saving wasn't even a buck LOL so is not a big deal. 

    Thanks for the reply.

    Cheers. 
     

    Sometime during the day they added the "does not stack with other discounts" fine print to the 2.99 banner. It wasn't there originally. They should really add that fine print to the 10% message they sent us, because it clearly says it's good on everything exceot FastGrab and PC memberships. It would help prevent hard feelings. 

    Thanks for claifying. I agree with you.

    Cheers. 

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,782

    Richard Haseltine said:

    N00b4Ever said:

    ericolsen said:

    My 10% off coupon code that's good all week is not working with the $10 female characters nor the $2.99 items in the current sale. 

    I second this. The only time I tried mine (8% off) was on the $2.99 products and it didn't work.

    Cheers. 

    The $2.99 items are an absolute price, they don't stack with other adjustments.

    My orange banner (coupon) isn't for 10% but if I add new non-PC+ items recently released they do not discount. No spaces all caps the gives an error reading "There was an error processing your request and the cart refreshes with the coupon code still poulated but no discount applied. Been that way since Nov 8th. They really should fix this.

  • Best of Winter:

    Ice Hotel: Perfect!
    Snow, ice and ash: Yeah, two out of three and all...
    Victorian Rooftop Christmas Scene: Sure, Christmas happens in winter (for half the world, anyway)
    Robyn 8: Um...
    Holt 8: Why is a cowboy winter?

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,870

    Huh, I don't really get the new promo. It says Build Your Bundle, but there's no specification as to how, and for what price. Also, the new items on the promo page are missing their discounts.

  • Phew. Recent sales are quite underwhelming. Did not go for it but gathered a meager 6% for this weeks purchases. But with the exception of some Flash Sales earlier the week and a few DAZ+ items I see no incentive to purchase anything. Let's wait for BF/CM then. Was never a big thing here if I remember right but that might change as all other promos tend to become more and more lackluster IMO.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,139

    Oh crap, I keep forgetting my discount from last week. This coupon solution is not the best, in my opinion. :( (I'm not going to write to support, it's only 2%, and comes down to less than a dollar...)

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,046

    Is ND Weirdo an error, a link to the future or a glitch in the matrix?

    https://www.daz3d.com/blind-fury-poses-for-nd-weirdo-and-genesis-81-females

  • James_H said:

    Is ND Weirdo an error, a link to the future or a glitch in the matrix?

    https://www.daz3d.com/blind-fury-poses-for-nd-weirdo-and-genesis-81-females

    I noticed that and forgot to send an enquiry, will do so now.

  • Product link readme shows  today as the release date https://www.daz3d.com/nd-weirdo-creature-hd-for-genesis-81-female

  • Robert Freise said:

    Product link readme shows  today as the release date https://www.daz3d.com/nd-weirdo-creature-hd-for-genesis-81-female

    Yes, it was held up by the security schecks at the entrance - nothing the judicious use of psychic powers/a ray gun couldn't resolve.

  • Richard Haseltine said:

    Robert Freise said:

    Product link readme shows  today as the release date https://www.daz3d.com/nd-weirdo-creature-hd-for-genesis-81-female

    Yes, it was held up by the security schecks at the entrance - nothing the judicious use of psychic powers/a ray gun couldn't resolve.

    yes 

  • Um, okay... how does today's "Build Your Own Bundle" work? Or is it even supposed to?

    https://www.daz3d.com/BYOB-DEALS

    No matter how many items from the link you add to your cart, no savings kick in.  Which means the pre-selected items function no more differently in your cart than the other 34,000 already listed elsewhere in the store.  How does that constitute a deal?  

    On the other hand, if the ad merely implies that if you buy one new item, you get one BYOB item free, how does that constitute a bundle?

  • zombiewhacker said:

    Um, okay... how does today's "Build Your Own Bundle" work? Or is it even supposed to?

    https://www.daz3d.com/BYOB-DEALS

    No matter how many items from the link you add to your cart, no savings kick in.  Which means the pre-selected items function no more differently in your cart than the other 34,000 already listed elsewhere in the store.  How does that constitute a deal?  

    On the other hand, if the ad merely implies that if you buy one new item, you get one BYOB item free, how does that constitute a bundle?

    Buying one of today's new releases gets you a free item from the set, buying two or more gets you 10% off any other items from the list.

  • Staff Picks Best of Winter bundle is advertised as only costing the price of items not owned. However, this is no longer working..

  • Charlie Judge said:

    Staff Picks Best of Winter bundle is advertised as only costing the price of items not owned. However, this is no longer working..

    It was working for you earlier? I know mine was free yesterday.

  • Richard Haseltine said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    Staff Picks Best of Winter bundle is advertised as only costing the price of items not owned. However, this is no longer working..

    It was working for you earlier? I know mine was free yesterday.

    issue confirmed, reporting.

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