Will this make it to 2022 Sales Thread:Report Issues Here "There's Always Another Sale™"

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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,879
    edited January 2022

    It is even worse for me. I own all the 'Select Staff Picks" and all the 'Select Starter Bundles" except Star 2.0 Stater and even there I own all the items in the bundle because I bought the Star 2.0 Stellar Bundle. No orange banner; so no incentives for me. I can't even qualify for the extra 25% of Featured Artist items because I already own all 'Select Staff Picks' Grrr !!! angry Not a good way for DAZ to treat their loyal customers.. Guess I won't be buying anything today.

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  • Charlie Judge said:

    It is even worse for me. I own all the 'Select Staff Picks" and all the 'Select Starter Bundles" except Star 2.0 Stater and even there I own all the items in the bundle because I bought the Star 2.0 Stellar Bundle. No orange banner; so no incentives for me. I can't even qualify for the extra 25% of Featured Artist items because I already own all 'Select Staff Picks' Grrr !!! angry Not a good way for DAZ to treat their loyal customers.. Guess I won't be buying anything today.

    Same here 

  • kimhkimh Posts: 389

    Robert Freise said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    It is even worse for me. I own all the 'Select Staff Picks" and all the 'Select Starter Bundles" except Star 2.0 Stater and even there I own all the items in the bundle because I bought the Star 2.0 Stellar Bundle. No orange banner; so no incentives for me. I can't even qualify for the extra 25% of Featured Artist items because I already own all 'Select Staff Picks' Grrr !!! angry Not a good way for DAZ to treat their loyal customers.. Guess I won't be buying anything today.

    Same here 

    I'm in the same boat as well. No real incentive if you can't take advantage of any of the sales. I wanted to purchase some of the related artist items but I don't qualify for the 25% off because I have all the staff picks already. And I have all the items from the starter bundles

  • OK, Bundle with 5 outfits plus some glasses: Looks fine to me.

    But what is this breakout thing? Do we need to split up an outfit into its single parts? Well if so then prices should reflect. Both items from the fefecoolyellow outfit are priced the same as the outfit itself. Probably a bug as all other items are priced differently.

    And what is it with those fixed price and anti-atacking offers? For $7 the few items of interest to me are only discounted 50-60%. Not attractive at all for content which is often over a year old. If I remember correctly I did not purchase a single thing from those fixe price offers. Unfortunately they seem to be quite common nowadays. This and the fact that promos tend to be there only for 3 days have eliminated most of the stacking discounts of former times unfortunately.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    OK, Bundle with 5 outfits plus some glasses: Looks fine to me.

    But what is this breakout thing? Do we need to split up an outfit into its single parts? Well if so then prices should reflect. Both items from the fefecoolyellow outfit are priced the same as the outfit itself. Probably a bug as all other items are priced differently.

    And what is it with those fixed price and anti-atacking offers? For $7 the few items of interest to me are only discounted 50-60%. Not attractive at all for content which is often over a year old. If I remember correctly I did not purchase a single thing from those fixe price offers. Unfortunately they seem to be quite common nowadays. This and the fact that promos tend to be there only for 3 days have eliminated most of the stacking discounts of former times unfortunately.

    Add to this the "Buy the Trendy Threads Outfit Bundle OR 4+ ‘Trendy Threads’ Breakout Items to get up to 7 Select High-Fashion Items for $7 each* with Coupon Code: TRENDSETTER" deal once more excludes the use of the DAZ+ "$6.- off from DO products" code, which is a trend that's going on for a quite a while now...

    Not that I would be intrested in anything in that sale and/or had not already used that DAZ+ code...

    And add to all that, even though they have a product in the bundle, fefecoolyellow isn't among the Featured Artists Stores...

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,263
    edited January 2022

    fefecoolyellow store is on sale for me, but see they aren't listed.

    Edit: I reported it

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  • ioonrxoonioonrxoon Posts: 894

    Whoever came up with the idea of splitting outfits like that is a nutcase. Nearly a page from product library is now taken up by 5 outfits... as if it wasn't a mess already there with all those duplicates.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,139

    Ati's daily obsession with bundle's. :D

    Today we have one big bundle, five small bundles, and a bunch of single items.

    All the single items are included in the big bundle.

    Four of the five small bundles are included in the big bundle, even though all the single elements from the fifth bundle are also included in the big bundle. Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? ( https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81 )

  • I will probably buy the bundle as it is a DAZO original and the price for 5 outfits is OK to me. Although it is ridiculous that an outfit is now a bundle. Some months ago it was: Wow, outfits, hair, characters etc. for a nice bundle price. Now it's: Oh, shoes, a skirt, a top and some glasses.

    Wished they would have combined the sale with the costume collection bundle. That one could use a good discount ;-)

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,777
    ioonrxoon said:

    Whoever came up with the idea of splitting outfits like that is a nutcase. Nearly a page from product library is now taken up by 5 outfits... as if it wasn't a mess already there with all those duplicates.

    I guess more purchase options are OK, but it is approaching the absurd. Will we soon purchase the left shoe separately from the right shoe? LOL
  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,034

    Ati said: 

    Four of the five small bundles are included in the big bundle, even though all the single elements from the fifth bundle are also included in the big bundle. Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81 )

     

     I came here to make this comment: Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81)

  • ioonrxoonioonrxoon Posts: 894

    barbult said:

    I guess more purchase options are OK, but it is approaching the absurd. Will we soon purchase the left shoe separately from the right shoe? LOL

     

    Sure, I can see the benefit of multiple options, but it needs to be carefully thought out if implemented. And if implemented, the first thing that needs to be taken care of is the clutter, both in store and in library.

    - I don't want to have to download 5 files for an outfit, nor do I want 5 separate entries in library.  Pretty sure the separate zips also share some of the same textures, making them eat up more disk space as well.

    - As evidenced with the glasses, even if I own them all, the "bundle" is still shown as not owned in the store. If items keep getting added this way, it will be a mess, with the store full of items you own, but still showing the "bundles". This is already an issue with existing bundles that they just don't want to fix.

    - Prices need to be carefully considered. How does the separate parts of an $8 outfit cost $10, then the parts of a $10 outfit cost $20, while the parts of a $10 different outfit cost $15? The price of each item needs to be considered from the "bundle" price, not based on how many items each outfit has. What's the point of offering separates, when buying 3/4 of an outift is more expensive than buying 4/4 of an outfit? Or buying 2/4 costs the same as 4/4?

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,777

    ioonrxoon said:

    barbult said:

    I guess more purchase options are OK, but it is approaching the absurd. Will we soon purchase the left shoe separately from the right shoe? LOL

     

    Sure, I can see the benefit of multiple options, but it needs to be carefully thought out if implemented. And if implemented, the first thing that needs to be taken care of is the clutter, both in store and in library.

    - I don't want to have to download 5 files for an outfit, nor do I want 5 separate entries in library.  Pretty sure the separate zips also share some of the same textures, making them eat up more disk space as well.

    - As evidenced with the glasses, even if I own them all, the "bundle" is still shown as not owned in the store. If items keep getting added this way, it will be a mess, with the store full of items you own, but still showing the "bundles". This is already an issue with existing bundles that they just don't want to fix.

    - Prices need to be carefully considered. How does the separate parts of an $8 outfit cost $10, then the parts of a $10 outfit cost $20, while the parts of a $10 different outfit cost $15? The price of each item needs to be considered from the "bundle" price, not based on how many items each outfit has. What's the point of offering separates, when buying 3/4 of an outift is more expensive than buying 4/4 of an outfit? Or buying 2/4 costs the same as 4/4?

    You've convinced me to not buy any of it, due to the clutter and chaos factors.

  • xyer0 said:

    Ati said: 

    Four of the five small bundles are included in the big bundle, even though all the single elements from the fifth bundle are also included in the big bundle. Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81 )

     

     I came here to make this comment: Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81)

    Isn't it? it's listed in What's included.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,139

    Richard Haseltine said:

    xyer0 said:

    Ati said: 

    Four of the five small bundles are included in the big bundle, even though all the single elements from the fifth bundle are also included in the big bundle. Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81 )

     

     I came here to make this comment: Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81)

    Isn't it? it's listed in What's included.

    It's not in the actual big bundle:

     

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  • Ati said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    xyer0 said:

    Ati said: 

    Four of the five small bundles are included in the big bundle, even though all the single elements from the fifth bundle are also included in the big bundle. Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81 )

     

     I came here to make this comment: Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81)

    Isn't it? it's listed in What's included.

    It's not in the actual big bundle:

     

    Ah, it is in the text for What's Included so I suspect hat is an oversight..

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,263

    maikdecker said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    OK, Bundle with 5 outfits plus some glasses: Looks fine to me.

    But what is this breakout thing? Do we need to split up an outfit into its single parts? Well if so then prices should reflect. Both items from the fefecoolyellow outfit are priced the same as the outfit itself. Probably a bug as all other items are priced differently.

    And what is it with those fixed price and anti-atacking offers? For $7 the few items of interest to me are only discounted 50-60%. Not attractive at all for content which is often over a year old. If I remember correctly I did not purchase a single thing from those fixe price offers. Unfortunately they seem to be quite common nowadays. This and the fact that promos tend to be there only for 3 days have eliminated most of the stacking discounts of former times unfortunately.

    Add to this the "Buy the Trendy Threads Outfit Bundle OR 4+ ‘Trendy Threads’ Breakout Items to get up to 7 Select High-Fashion Items for $7 each* with Coupon Code: TRENDSETTER" deal once more excludes the use of the DAZ+ "$6.- off from DO products" code, which is a trend that's going on for a quite a while now...

    Not that I would be intrested in anything in that sale and/or had not already used that DAZ+ code...

    And add to all that, even though they have a product in the bundle, fefecoolyellow isn't among the Featured Artists Stores.....

    They were already featured yesterday I'm told.

  • DripDrip Posts: 1,206

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Ati said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    xyer0 said:

    Ati said: 

    Four of the five small bundles are included in the big bundle, even though all the single elements from the fifth bundle are also included in the big bundle. Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81 )

     

     I came here to make this comment: Shouldn't the fifth small bundle also be induced in the big bundle? (https://www.daz3d.com/glasses-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81)

    Isn't it? it's listed in What's included.

    It's not in the actual big bundle:

     

    Ah, it is in the text for What's Included so I suspect hat is an oversight..

    Well, I bought the big bundle, and I can confirm that the Glasses Bundle itself is NOT in the big bundle, but its contents are.

    I'll just hope we get one of those special bundle sales again sometime, where the price of the contents are deducted from the price of the bundle, meaning if we already own all the contents of a bundle, we'd get the bundle for free. I think we had those sales two or three times so far?

  • Did the marketing genius who came up with the Trendy Threads Outfit Bundle and the method of making outfits bundles think one minute on usability of this?

    My DIM is crowded with single files for single items. In Smart Content an outfit like the Casual Fahion Outfit Vol 2 has 4 (!!!) products. I I want to apply the whole outfit I need to select the bundle product. If I want to change the texture of the skirt I need to switch over to that product instead as the bundle product has no mats. I can filter by context of course but still. Won't buy any future product split up like this I guess.

     

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    For once I'm on the absolutely opposite side of the fence:

    I love outfits, that are divided up into several products, as so I can buy only what I need... in this case is nothing, but the idea of only buying a pair of shoes instead of a whole office outfit that includes to a pair that I like and a whole outfit I don't like, for a price that is fitting for only a pair of shoes, instead for the price of a whole outfit, is utterly fantastic for me.

    And yes, I'd rather buy a product that consists of only one pair of shoes that I like for a small price than a product of 5 pairs of shoes of which I only am interested in one pair, while still having to buy all 5. Nobody would shop like that in real life.. except maybe Imelda Marcos.

  • Rod Wise Driggo said:

    Did the marketing genius who came up with the Trendy Threads Outfit Bundle and the method of making outfits bundles think one minute on usability of this?

    My DIM is crowded with single files for single items. In Smart Content an outfit like the Casual Fahion Outfit Vol 2 has 4 (!!!) products. I I want to apply the whole outfit I need to select the bundle product. If I want to change the texture of the skirt I need to switch over to that product instead as the bundle product has no mats. I can filter by context of course but still. Won't buy any future product split up like this I guess.

    You could try right-click on a file>Show Asset In>Content Library > Mapped Folder/Virtual Folder (depending on install method) - with luck they are all in the same folder tree so there would be a lot less back-and-forth.

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 558
    edited January 2022

    OK, nothing to see here.. realised the new banner is for select items.

     

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  • ericolsenericolsen Posts: 350
    Can't get Savings-4-me working with anything, new or old, 2 or 3 items.
  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,871

    ericolsen said:

    Can't get Savings-4-me working with anything, new or old, 2 or 3 items.

    Just the stuff in the selection that goes with the banner I think. Works for me, but I don't see much sense in it. No great reductions to be gained. 

  • theflarftheflarf Posts: 170

    I must admit, the way my brain works (obviously wrong) means i'm always underwhelmed when I realise the actual discount when it comes to my basket.

    I see get the extra 15% off immiedately think perfect that'll be 75% off when the stuff is 60% currently,

    But it doesn't mean that, so it actually ends up being 66% which is less than say a fastgrab sale 70% whi..this flash sale isn't helped by the fact half the items aren't on sale anyway so at best they are 15% off :| 

     

     

     

  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,849

    theflarf said:

    I must admit, the way my brain works (obviously wrong) means i'm always underwhelmed when I realise the actual discount when it comes to my basket.

    I see get the extra 15% off immiedately think perfect that'll be 75% off when the stuff is 60% currently,

    But it doesn't mean that, so it actually ends up being 66% ...

    This is DAZ Math at work. The important thing to remember is that discounts aren't additive, they are applied in sequence, so they're essentially a series of multiplications.

    So if you have an initial 60% discount, you'll pay 40% of the list price, and a further 15% discount means that you'll pay 85% of that 40%.

    If you imagine a product that costs $100, then the 60% discount drops it to $40, 85% of that (i.e. 100%-15%) is $34 ... which is to say a 66% overall discount.

     

  • Rod Wise DriggoRod Wise Driggo Posts: 2,225
    edited January 2022

    I wish DAZ would stop those - mostly unattractive fixed price sales:

    - Selection of items with > 60% discount is rather limited that way.
    - Complete lack of stacking is rather customer unfriendly.
    - Removal of all bundles (like the polish vehicle bundles) is customer unfriendly as well.

    Most of those recent sales are no deals for me at all. Hope others see it the same way so things will change again in the future.

    P.S. There are a few exceptions. Like today the sailboat - unfortunately I own such products already most of the time.

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,174

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    - Removal of all bundles (like the polish vehicle bundles) is customer unfriendly as well.

    That's the weird thing, though: there are still SOME bundles, like the Upper Class Vehicle bundle.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,546

    I suspect that the "Required Items" for IGD Faboosh Poses for Genesis 8 Female are more suited for the "Additional products used in promo images" designation.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,624

    NorthOf45 said:

    I suspect that the "Required Items" for IGD Faboosh Poses for Genesis 8 Female are more suited for the "Additional products used in promo images" designation.

    Will report. 

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