'Real' female body shapes figure products? Like DE Heidi
vijayasimhabr
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It is quiet natural that most figures that are on the store in Daz 3D are like Perfect 10/10 bodies. That makes sense.
However, sometimes, I feel like we should get some more ;real life' body shapes. For example Heidi (https://www.daz3d.com/de-heidi-for-genesis-8-female), which I use a lot. I mix her up with the body morphs product and get some great results. I also Binah (https://www.daz3d.com/de-binah-for-genesis-8-female).
The Binah description has this text - "She isn't a woman you'd find in a magazine, she's one you'll find in real life". So, that's what I am looking for.
Both Binah and Heidi are from DE vendor.
Are there other more real life figures/body shapes that the community can recommend for me? Other than the DE vendor, I mean?
Thank you very much.
Note : I already have the body morphs product (https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-female-body-morphs). I do use it get less than perfect body shapes. However, I find that it is easier for me to simply buy figures that are already curvy or body positive and such.
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Kingsley, Brooke, and you can use Boom Chica Morphs and/or Big Girl Morphs to give any character that kind of figure.
I'd suggest Mousso's Reese: https://www.daz3d.com/reese-hd-for-genesis-8-female
The face is close to flawless, but the body is quite a bit chunkier than your common or garden DS character.
Regards,
Richard
Too bad I cannot model my wife for you!!
G3 morph packs and transfer up to g8. You have to buy PA morph movers from g3 to g8, bunch in the store
If you are talking about the base morph packs, they are pretty much the same as the G8 ones. Plus there are plenty of G8 morph packs that can create bigger models, but the OP just wants to click and load
For 8.1 Daz Core
Brooke https://www.daz3d.com/brooke-8-1
Catty https://www.daz3d.com/catty-81
Bonnie https://www.daz3d.com/bonnie-81
It just so happens, I am separated, so, this made me smile just a little bit. a small amount of smile in my mountain of depression that is my life. :) thank you for this.
Excellent. this is wonderful. thank you.
She still looks way too perfect for my taste. but I will keep her in my wishlist. Thank you.
Yes, just click and load. Thank you.
Catty might not suit me but Bonnie...I forgot about her. Thank you.
Jordyn https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-jordynne-for-genesis-8-female has been a favorite of mine for a few years.
Caprice
Kinda obvious, but Rosa Maria 8.1, since she wasn't mentioned: a 10 for the Southern Hemisphere
Ombra has a pretty full body, though you'll probably want to use a different skin on her. The devil parts all appear to be optional.
https://www.daz3d.com/mother-and-daughters-hd-for-genesis-8-female
Not DAZ Store, but dieggomasamune from Rendo has some "real" characters, in terms of shaping. Larissa (morphs only) comes to mind and Luana (another morphs only character.)
For curvy in the DAZ Store, my pick is Latonya 8, since others have mentioned other good ones like Boom Chica. Though the problem will be fitting clothes to them, so the DAZ Originals morphs and Latonya are more supported.
That's too big for my current preference but I will wishlist it. Thank you.
Maria is the one who led me down the path of more 'realistic' women, so already bought the figure last month. And, Caprice, added to wishlist for future purchase. Thank you.
Excellent suggestion. thank you for the suggestion. once you ignore the horns and stuff, she is a beautiful figure.
This is interesting...I am also collecting some middle aged women, so this will help. and realistic body shapes as well. Thank you.
Havent come across Latonya so far. Yes, added to wishlist. Thank you.
And so far, sticky to Daz store only. It's just easier to buy and manage. When I eventually brave my way across the ocean to Render Hub, I will consider the deiggo characters. Thank you.
By Rendo, MimicMolly meant Renderosity, not Render Hub, and I am pretty sure there is no ocean between them and DAZ.
I agree with the OP - I too want to see more of the shapes we see in the street. However, in my experience buying the morph packs (including some of those mentioned above such as Boom Chica and Big Girl) there are big problems actually getting them to look right wearing clothes or in anything other than a slight deviation from the zero pose.
Any morph which expands the girth causes an unnatural belly crease in many bend or sitting poses. I've had time wasting problems getting clothing to fit - especially when posed - so I end up spending hours in Blender trying to make morphs for the clothing. I wish it were better but, for example, I've just dialled an old lady character (using Zev0 Aging morphs) and the breast sag and buttock shape just doesn't play nice with any of the extensive wardrobe I have for G8F. And dForce doesn't help - in fact it often makes things worse. The arms of a big G8 will intersect with the breast/chest with a minimum of pose movement too.
I worked for years to explore realistic female body shapes. First off, there is of course not only one, but most vendors product are still very stylized.
To me the most realist G8F model available is still the default Genesis 8 Female figure.
One issue I see on almost every character is, that the legs are usually to long. To have the center of the pubic mount as the middle of the characters height is by the book, but mostley an exeption and majes the character's legs already look very long.
Another problem is, that the default G8F A-pose makes it very hard to model a realistic waist-pelvis ratio.
My advise is to do the shaping with her legs closed together.
My second advise is to develop her body shape by using the figures scaling parameters first, and control them with an ERC parameter dial.
Then you add morph Targets, in order to fine tune her body shape.
I have always tried to give my character that "Girl next door" look.
(Gate way Error again !!)
Her height here is about 165 cm ( without hair ), which are about 5.4" feet.
@Havos
More of a pond then. As of now, just keeping it simple with the Daz store. But, I promise to explore other shops eventually. Still getting my bearing on Daz itself.
@marble
Another reason why prefer to work with models (like Binah or Heidi) who are already sculpted that way. Morphs just dont appear to have the same effect.
Glad to hear that another daz person who apperciates the more 'real' women situation. Thank you.
@Masterstroke
Thank you for the detailed steps. I wont be trying this right away. I have logged it for future use.
This set may be useful:
https://www.daz3d.com/z-all-natural-morphs-and-pose-mega-set
even without using the full body shape, some of the detail morphs (like Love Handles) may help in adding realism to your characters
@Ruthven
Yes, the detail morphs can help with additional detail. Will keep this for future reference. Thank you.
Yes - I understand that the PAs know how to model characters and make all the projection morphs for clothing, etc. I wish I could find a good tutorial on how to do the same with dialled-in morphs - that would make a whole lot of my purchased G8 wardrobe available for my "real looking" characters. I almost never (probably actually never) use a character as purchased because I mainly buy them for the look of the skin or as a base for my own imagination. That's a huge part of the enjoyment of this hobby for me - to see a character take form in front of my eyes.
How extreme are your characters? I do the same thing, creating my own characters and never have issues with clothing fitting. Does dforce help?
Marilyn Monroe, who had probably the most famous body figure of anyone of the 20th century, looked like a sack of potatoes in regular clothes, which is why everything she wore was custom tailored to flatter her figure. Even her non-costume day-to-day wardrobe was custom tailored. She actually had herself photographed in a potatoe sack to deflect some of the criticism. Also, the reason super-famous fashion designers use a very specific body type is that they want the shape of the clothes to define the look, not the shape of the model (unless the model is super-famous for some other reason.) I don't know if there's an "e" on potatoe.