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Prices will return to 'normal' once people stop viewing GFX cards as money making investments.
I hestiated when typing normal. I'm a little bit worried about the Russian war and some of the commodities they export. However even with that I'm expecting to see utter carnage to 2nd hand 3060 and 3090 pricing in 4 or 5 months. I'll sit on the fence for 4000 series pricing, but I feel Daz users will have 3060 and 3090 'cheap' options if they are prepaired to go 2nd hand in a few months.
The prices on this link are unacceptably high. I would not buy from them.
Agreed, and I hope you're right. I have no meaningful experience with second-hand hardware, but it sounds attractive - If it's reliable.
Thank you for your reply. That all sounds great, and I'm glad that it worked out so well.
Still 300 dollars cheaper than a year ago. That could be a good sign. Unless China (unusable political rant) Taiwan. All most cheaper to buy a whole pre-built than some of those 3090s out there. Most of the cost is in the form of Graphics cards. If you can find one.
I hear ya! I think it is a good sign unless (unmentionable).
The prices have definitely dropped, just a couple of months ago the Asus 3090's started at around 2500eur (VAT 24% included) and went up to over 3000eur, now the most expensive Asus 3090 is just 2250eur (VAT 24% included)
Anyone remember when MSRP was the upper limit for pricing on things. We'll never get back to that if people keep buying at these inflated prices.
Yes, but you could haggle with the MSRP like with cars. I laugh at the best buy salesperson when he to me that MSRP meant that was the price. Quickly told him what it meant, and you don't have to sell at that price. Even showing him on one of their computers what it meant ended up getting 5% off an 8000 dollar sale. Did take a while but the manager just gave up.
I recently upgraded from two 2080ti's to a single RTX A5000. I needed the upgrade and I was looking at either paying a scalper 2-3x MSRP for a 3080ti, or buying the $5000 within a few points of MSRP. Considering the prices were very close at the time, the choice was obvious. The card is amazing. Not cheap, but amazing. Now I just have to figure out what to do with the last 2080ti.
No, not PNY. My builder recommended that I stay away from PNY with these types of cards and was able to get a Lenovo brand(new & unused). A bit more expensive, but they're suppose to be better than PNY and are usually purchased by government/university entities as part of a Lenovo workstation. At one time you could find a few(albeit still scarce), but now you don't see them anywhere.
Are any of the 3090 cards available that have liquid cooling & a 360mm radiator? Given how much heat these cards produce, I wouldn't get one unless it has that to keep it cool. My temps on the EVGA Kingpin stay around 38-56C no matter what I'm doing with it(but haven't tried rendering yet on it), and I would account that to the beefy radiator which pulls air from inside of the case through the radiator and expunges it out of ther top.
rrward I am sure you won't have any problem selling it,
I would love a 2080Ti myself one day but I live in Australia, people are paying top dollar even for 1080Ti's
in my case it is actually cheaper to buy a whole new computer with a 3080,
again if I could afford it, I am not spending a cent on hardware though for a few years!
I've been wondering whether the sanctions on Russia might release GPU cards on to the market elsewhere. I have no idea how many were sold in Russia, pre-sanctions, but I would imagine a significant number.
True, but I'd rather sell it to a fellow Studio user.
LOL, you got lucky and not something you should encourage others to do. I work in retail and I wouldn't budge since it's not supposed to work that way in large chain stores (haggling, not the MSRP deal). I have had customers try that from time to time. Love seeing them get frustrated or pissed because they didn't get their way. One thing I have learned in this profession, you give a customer an inch they usually take a mile and keep on going just to see what they can get away with..
This is a very interesting idea. It would be hard to know for sure.
Ok. No PNY. I don't see any Lenovo parts and the 3090s are air-cooled. I've seen liquid-cooled cards on the EVGA site. They say "Out of Stock."
right now the only thing I will consider buying is a better CPU as a Ryzen3 is not great
but I spent half the money I was putting aside for that on a chicken coop and window cat door insert I have yet to erect 
the coop will be a cat run outside said window flap BTW not for chickens
I have to admit, I bought a box of parts today that will become my new computer with monitor. Everything came together in a way that I found satisfactory. It's not extravagant by many standards, but my i7-6700 system with its 4GB 745 card definitely needed an update. And as it still runs pretty well, it will continue on as a backup.
I think the chicken coop and all that may be more entertaining than a new CPU.
Prices are actually dropping pretty fast. Just yesterday Hardware Unboxed made a video about GPUs dropping as much as 35% OVERNIGHT. That is right, retailers marked some cards down that much in a single day. HUB is located in Australia, and they were referencing the online stores in their country. So this might continue for a bit.
There are many places where GPUs are in stock. Microcenter is helpful because they will list the number of units in their store, and these numbers are pretty accurate. It caps at 25+, and several AMD GPUs are showing up with 25+ in the nearest MC to me. They do not have as many Nvidia cards in stock, but there are a wide variety of GPUs on a retail shelf right now, and many of them are just sitting there. The product is not moving that fast, which means prices will have to drop or stores are going to be holding inventory. Scalpers are also finally feeling the heat as well. It is almost as if people just stopped buying GPUs...in spite of all this record demand some claimed was going on. Everybody needed a GPU...until when suddenly they didn't...hmmm <.<
Most interesting is the special 12GB version of the 2060, which is $470 with 4 in stock. This card was super rare as numerous outlets speculated that these specific models were sold directly to miners. That this card shows up at all on a retail shelf IMO is a big sign that the boom for crypto is truly over, at least for now. Keep that in mind. Because crypto can always come back, it has several times and each boom has been bigger than the last.
Prices will keep falling at least for the short term. This is what I think will happen. Prices will drop off all the way until the next generation launches. We might even see GPUs going below MSRP in some places. But I think we will see a bit of a repeat of when Ampere launched. The new hardware itself can drive crypto up, because the new cards may be very good at mining. We do not know for sure. I hope Nvidia places a hardcore limit on mining that outright kills their mining speeds. The cap on some Ampere cards is only 50%, and when crypto was booming, it was still enough to make money. Plus they figured out a way to bypass some of it, raising the cap tp 70%. They also found a way to dual mine, so while they could not defeat the 70% cap, they could use the remaining 30% compute to mine a different crypto. However this was still not optimal because no other crypto is near as valuable as Ether.
I believe Nvidia really wants to monetize miners, as they produced several mining cards. They basically want to separate mining like they do professionals with the A series. They want miners to buy dedicated mining cards...at much higher prices. But that plan so far has not worked out for them. Nvidia reported that they did not sell as many dedicated mining cards as they had projected. The miners simply were not buying them, the miners want specifically gaming cards, and the reason for this is because they can resell the GPUs when they are done with them. Thus allowing them to recoup even more profit off the GPUs. If miners are stuck with dedicating mining cards, they cannot resell them so easily. This is a huge hit to their bottom line. My hope is that Nvidia stamps their foot down, because that is the only way they will ever gain control rather than having these boom and bust cycles. "LHR" was basically built on the fly with Ampere, and the fact that many models launched without it made it difficulty to pull off. Now Nvidia should have learned from the last experience. They have the chance to build in LHR from the start of a new generation, and they should have a much better way of enforcing it so that it is harder for mining firms to crack. The question is will they? If their mining cards sold so poorly, they might decide not to pursue this.
If Nvidia gives up on trying to curb miners, that could spell bad news for everybody else. The next generation is projected by nearly every outlet to be a massive jump in performance, possibly even doubling performance. If this is true, well, that could also mean they mine twice as fast, unless it is limited. If it is not limited then having all this new compute power available could spawn a whole new mining rush.
We will just have to wait and see. I am also hopeful that Intel jumping in causes some much needed market price corrections.
Under normal conditions, we should see prices of outgoing cards tank after their successor launches, but we just cannot be so sure of that anymore. But if you want to watch the GPU market, watch the price of crypto. The prices of each are very intertwined with each other.
So what buying advice can I offer? Honestly, the whole thing is a gamble. The market could swing right back. Some world event could cause a whole new supply problem. I personally would wait if it was me. I managed to score a 3090 at $1500 MSRP back in Spetember. I feel very lucky, and today that would be even harder because Best Buy has disturbingly placed buying GPUs behind a paywall. You have to be a member of their $200 anual club to have the right to purchase a GPU. So if GPUs become hard to get again, BB will probably do this, limiting who can actually buy a GPU. It kind of defeats the purpose of buying at MSRP if you have to pay a $200 fee to even have a CHANCE at a GPU. At any rate, I would try to hold out, if you made it this far, well, we could be looking at a quarter 3 release for Ada Lovelace, the 4000 series. It might go to Q4, but man if the 4090 doubles up the 3090, I would feel at least a little burned buying a 3090 right now. The 4070 will very likely be faster than a 3090, too. So just think about that...3090< performance in a 4070 price class. It will not have 24GB of VRAM, but it might have 16 or 12. That would be pretty freakin rad in my book, because the 3090 is rather sweet. Of course, we don't know when these things will come out, and the whole world might be different place in 6 months time. So just food for thought.
Thanks for sharing your perspective, @outrider42 . I hoped you would, as you seem to have a lot of insight about these things. The turn of events is quite interesting!
@outrider42 - Microcenter on its web page is now advertising a new policy vis-a-vis graphics cards: "Limit 1 GPU Purchase per household per 30-day period." If only someone had thought of this two years ago! The fact that miners can no longer show up first thing in the morning and grab up an armful of graphics cards for themselves bodes well for average customers who are simply in the market for a decent new card for actual gaming. Just today, reviewing MC's store page at end of the day, I see several 3050s, 3070 Ti's, 3080s and 3080 Ti's still in stock at my local outlet. A few days ago the same store had 3090s in stock throughout the day. Now if only prices can continue to drop. Moreover, MC's store page indicates that one of their cards is currently on sale. They're offering the ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti at $699.99, a full $250 off what apparently is the regular going price of $949.99.
@ outrider42 . ... thanks for that rundown.
I have 3060, I got it at a good price, I'm content for the time being. I now just need to build the rest of the system around it as it won't talk to my ancient MB's BIOS.
I am glad someone else is allowed to mention the Elephant in the room on this forum
I had one of those RTX 2060 I gave to a board member here. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/508591/i-need-a-new-home#latest. Plan to do the same with this 3060 12g card when I upgrade to a 24 g card. So keep an eye out for it. I'll do it the same way. Hope to get more onboard this time for the giveaway.
Good on you for doing that! It's very generous.
I was a tech for a charity and would take my old tech in and watch the others take the stuff home. I got them to let me build systems on my own then the next day the good hardware was gone or the whole machine, and it not was given to the needy. Just up and gone. So I started a different route with my old hardware and this is the result. I was a heavy-duty gamer, for the longest time and I would pass on my hardware to players in the games I played. Now I'm doing this instead of gaming all the time.
I see. That is a pretty cool way to do things, @AgitatedRiot