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NosiferretNosiferret Posts: 339
edited December 1969 in The Commons

I've seen this for quite a few years since being a member here at DAZ and finally, I need to ask this question.

What is it with vendors who make boots that they *have* to put a strap over the top portion of the foot? I don't get it. Is it there signature? Do they think that's what boots should look like? Do they think it isn't a boot unless it has a strap across the foot? They do it because they think it looks cool? Do they do it because they know it will drive people crazy and ask questions when they see it? Shall I get started on the top of the boot, the old style fireman/fisherman wellie style....why can't we just have boots....why can't they look just nondescript boots, ones that blend in pretty much with any genre of garb being worn....

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066
    edited December 1969

    You know... You're right...
    Damn it...
    I've been gluing straps to all my boots for years because of this...
    I thought that was normal...
    That somehow my boots were lacking...
    What if I ever had to suddenly go on a long quest to destroy some random piece of evil jewelry or or something... Would dwarves respect me if I had no straps?
    What if I was recruited by some extraterrestrials to help them defend the galaxy and they noticed my boots had no straps?
    This could be a real quest ender...
    Well apparently I was wrong...
    I'm gonna go pull all my fake straps off... Damn those aliens and dwarves...

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Nosiferret said:
    I've seen this for quite a few years since being a member here at DAZ and finally, I need to ask this question.

    What is it with vendors who make boots that they *have* to put a strap over the top portion of the foot? I don't get it. Is it there signature? Do they think that's what boots should look like? Do they think it isn't a boot unless it has a strap across the foot? They do it because they think it looks cool? Do they do it because they know it will drive people crazy and ask questions when they see it? Shall I get started on the top of the boot, the old style fireman/fisherman wellie style....why can't we just have boots....why can't they look just nondescript boots, ones that blend in pretty much with any genre of garb being worn....

    Because wellies look like...wellies (not cool)?

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,674
    edited December 1969

    Nosiferret said:
    I've seen this for quite a few years since being a member here at DAZ and finally, I need to ask this question.

    What is it with vendors who make boots that they *have* to put a strap over the top portion of the foot? I don't get it. Is it there signature? Do they think that's what boots should look like? Do they think it isn't a boot unless it has a strap across the foot? They do it because they think it looks cool? Do they do it because they know it will drive people crazy and ask questions when they see it? Shall I get started on the top of the boot, the old style fireman/fisherman wellie style....why can't we just have boots....why can't they look just nondescript boots, ones that blend in pretty much with any genre of garb being worn....

    Are there any boots in particualr you're thinking of?

  • JonstarkJonstark Posts: 2,738
    edited April 2015

    I've never understood why vendors create shoes that require a special morph pose to make the feet actually fit in the shoes. Not sure why that extra step (whoops unintentional pun) is necessary in some instances...

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    I just usually hide toes. Meh.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited December 1969

    I have the same feeling- but about corsets. Seems like a lot of outfits, including professional business attire must have some sort of corset-like belt.

  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388
    edited December 1969

    Examples please! I can't imagine what any of you are talking about without pictures! :blank:

  • VhardamisVhardamis Posts: 576
    edited December 1969

    Subtropic Pixel said:
    Examples please! I can't imagine what any of you are talking about without pictures! :blank:

    http://www.daz3d.com/overknee-lace-up-boots-for-genesis-2-female-s

    http://www.daz3d.com/treadz-for-genesis

    Etc. Rendo has a lot more examples. Oddly after looking for them I didn't find that many in the DAZ3D store. Most of the boots here have ankle straps.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    Steampunk boots (real boots) are strappy. And, from what I understand, people don't like them because the straps keep snapping off. ;)

    Almost as bad as shoulderpads in MMOs!

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,700
    edited December 1969

    I see many more without than with, so perhaps it's just the ones you happened to have looked at.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    edited December 1969

    Now we're at it - very often a vendor creates a great product, but then, to make it different or stand out, they add a little detail or feature to it that, IMO, just spoils the whole thing, either because it simply just not look good or seems out of context or proportion, aesthetically.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,257
    edited April 2015

    ...I'd like to see a basic set of steel toed work boots like someone working in a factory or warehouse would wear.

    Then again, that's RL and not sexy enough.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...I'd like to see a basic set of steel toed work boots like someone working in a factory or warehouse would wear.

    Then again, that's RL and not sexy enough.

    Unless you want the steel to be on the outside there are some here:

    http://www.daz3d.com/workboots-for-v4
    http://www.daz3d.com/work-boots
    http://www.daz3d.com/work-boots-for-m4-h4

    some other boots:

    http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/winterboots2010/83574/
    http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/rugged-boots-g2f/108397/

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,813
    edited December 1969

    Jonstark said:
    I've never understood why vendors create shoes that require a special morph pose to make the feet actually fit in the shoes. Not sure why that extra step (whoops unintentional pun) is necessary in some instances...

    So that poses with the feet flat on the ground will work without adjustment, mainly.

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,460
    edited April 2015

    If it's a leather boot without a zipper, you need straps to tighten it in the right places to avoid discomfort
    http://cdna.lystit.com/photos/2013/11/12/forever-21-brown-ankle-strap-boots-product-1-14826401-812371501_large_flex.jpeg

    Oh yeah, and it's an easy device to add extra detailing... many artists make them separate material zones, so maybe you can make them invisible if you like a more basic/functional styling?

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  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    Speaking of boots, why why why are our ladies in 'adventurous' outfits for fighting dragons and such given high-heeled boots. Chasing through swamps and clambering up rocks isn't as easy as it looks and impossible wearing those spikes. Frazetta didn't seem to like painting women's feet very much at all, and Vallejo not much more. Looking through dozens of images I saw one with what possibly could have been a highish heel on a distressed and prone heroine's foot. I know why she was prone. The rest were hidden, bare, or flat.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Spit said:
    The rest were hidden, bare, or flat.

    That goes along so much better with the standard armor for such situations. I suppose those spike heeled boots could double as a weapon, should said heroine lose her sword...

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    pin heels give Celine, Chisato,or Opera - Atk + 6

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    edited December 1969

    Spit said:
    Speaking of boots, why why why are our ladies in 'adventurous' outfits for fighting dragons and such given high-heeled boots. Chasing through swamps and clambering up rocks isn't as easy as it looks and impossible wearing those spikes. Frazetta didn't seem to like painting women's feet very much at all, and Vallejo not much more. Looking through dozens of images I saw one with what possibly could have been a highish heel on a distressed and prone heroine's foot. I know why she was prone. The rest were hidden, bare, or flat.

    Maybe getting a few cm higher gives you a better overview of the situation. :)

    But at a price - high heels are damaging women's feet, according to medical research:

    http://www.salon.com/2013/08/27/study_wearing_high_heels_causes_long_term_foot_damage_clawing_of_the_toes/

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    MY fantasy women have sensible boots.

    Though, admittedly, that one top is a bit silly:

    http://ladyanddragon.webcomic.ws/comics/6

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited December 1969

    What about cleavage windows and odd empty spaces around the stomach and various parts of the ladies clothing? Adventuress get cold too!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    my gianni needs more odd empty space windows :cheese:

  • KalypsoKalypso Posts: 208
    edited December 1969

    If the strap is a different material you can make it invisible. Idler's shoes/boots usually have the details as separate materials so you get a variety of styles.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,602
    edited December 1969

    All my boots have either laces with hooks and eyelets or a side zipper, cannot say I have ever seen ones with straps in real life ever though fantasy and fetish wear seems to abound in them.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,602
    edited December 1969

    Oh and my over the knee suede boots have no fastenings at all, I just have to lie on my back and yank the buggers on with lots of tugging.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    I hope this doesn't violate board rules?

    But a bunch of (absurd) strappy boots and shoes:
    http://www.museumreplicas.com/s-84-footwear.aspx

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,602
    edited December 1969

    timmins.william said:
    I hope this doesn't violate board rules?

    But a bunch of (absurd) strappy boots and shoes:
    http://www.museumreplicas.com/s-84-footwear.aspx


    oooh cheap too, shame I need to try footware on before I buy it.
  • SixDsSixDs Posts: 2,384
    edited December 1969

    cannot say I have ever seen ones with straps in real life

    Biker boots.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,602
    edited April 2015

    SixDs said:
    cannot say I have ever seen ones with straps in real life

    Biker boots.
    haha google images of biker boots all have those straps indeed
    funny my brother rode a motorbike (Jap mind you not Harley it might make a difference fashion wise)
    and his never had those straps, did have velcro overlap on zip though for waterproofing and kevlar inserts.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    I've bought maybe two things from Museum Ltd, over the last 20 years, but I find them a lot of fun for ideas for stuff (swords, etc)

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