Nightmare! All files in my Content Library Categories have disappeared. HALP!

RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037
edited June 2022 in Daz Studio Discussion

All files in my Content Library Categories have disappeared.

I had taken PAINSTAKINGLY METICULOUS AND WELL-ORGANIZED files to help me utilize Daz Products. All that work.... years of Organization is gone.

How can I get it back?

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485

    Can you see any files with a file explorer outside of Studio? If everything is there, check your mapped folders in Content Directory Manager. More to follow depending on that answer...

  • Did you change anything when this happened ? as said, check that your files are there (DS would not remove them though), but the drive can go bad or something else.

    Do you see all the categories in the tree and they are all empty or are the categories gone also in the tree pane ? check that nothing happend to the configuratyion so it point to wrong folder or something, once again this almost never happen by itself (unless your drive is history), so make sure you did not do something that could cause the problem.

    Check the log file and see if there is anything there.

     

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,358

    NorthOf45 said:

    Can you see any files with a file explorer outside of Studio? If everything is there, check your mapped folders in Content Directory Manager. More to follow depending on that answer...

    checking the mapped folders was my first thought, too. 

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    NorthOf45 said:

    Can you see any files with a file explorer outside of Studio? If everything is there, check your mapped folders in Content Directory Manager. More to follow depending on that answer...

    I can see all my files EXCEPT in the Categories folder where I mapped them to make more sense when I went looking for them. The files are indeed there with no problem in having to REDO the Categories folder under Content Library, just it would take weeks or months to do. :(
  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    mikael-aronsson said:

     

    Did you change anything when this happened ?

    Not that I can remember. I thought I was updating metadata for a few of the items.

    as said, check that your files are there (DS would not remove them though), but the drive can go bad or something else.

    The files are there, just the Categories section has nothing in it.

    Do you see all the categories in the tree and they are all empty or are the categories gone also in the tree pane ?

    Yes the categories are all there, just the files missing from them.

    check that nothing happened to the configuration so it point to wrong folder or something, once again this almost never happen by itself (unless your drive is history), so make sure you did not do something that could cause the problem.

    How do I correct that?

    Check the log file and see if there is anything there.

    Thank you. But what am I looking for?

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,337
    edited June 2022

    On W10? Once in awhile it has trouble reading itself and this would flow over to the programs then. Solution is to try a reboot.

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    UPDATE!

     

    Files are not showing in Products directory either although they ARE showing in Daz Studio Formats folder, Poser formats folder, and Other formats folder.

     

    INSANITY! *cry*

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,824

    Do they have any metadata tags in the Content Library>Daz Studio Formats list (e.g. the tags like Material or Actor)?

    Have you backed up your database, or exported user data? Or are these actually set up as new products, in which case they will have been exported when you created them.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037
    edited June 2022

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Do they have any metadata tags in the Content Library>Daz Studio Formats list (e.g. the tags like Material or Actor)?

    No. I think I did just update CMS but wasn't that supposed to solve issues with metadata?

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Have you backed up your database, or exported user data? Or are these actually set up as new products, in which case they will have been exported when you created them.

    No backup or export.

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    Catherine3678ab said:

    On W10? Once in awhile it has trouble reading itself and this would flow over to the programs then. Solution is to try a reboot.

    Reboot done and no better. :(
  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    Also something else I found odd. It's not showing thrid party stuff I installed manually either.

     

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485

    Okay, let's not overlook the obvious. Is CMS running? Sounds like there is no metadata.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    Also something else I found odd. It's not showing thrid party stuff I installed manually either.

     

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    NorthOf45 said:

    Okay, let's not overlook the obvious. Is CMS running? Sounds like there is no metadata.

    How do I find out? I tried starting it several times.
  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485
    edited June 2022

    When you say you updated CMS, what do you mean, exactly? You mentioned updating metadata for a few items, was that it?

    --

    Heartbeat resuming...

    I tried stopping and then starting CMS, but it did not come back. All metadata missing, no categories, no products. Restart Studio, no change. "Invalid CMS Connection..." Sound familiar? I have been using 4.20.0.17 beta for a while, no problems. Luckily, I guess, I still had General Release 4.12.1.118 installed, and it picked up right away. Back to 4.20.0.17 beta, and CMS worked. So, that begs the question, why would it not resume by itself? As a rule, I don't think I have ever stopped the CMS, and it worked from the start when I installed the Studio beta version the first time.

    ETA: Then DIM dropped the CMS connection when I tried to use it. Maybe both need to be stopped before restarting?

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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,337

    Ideas:

    Edit > Preferences > CMS settings ... cluster directory ... C:/Users/.../AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/cms

    https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_18869  Manually download/install the one for the OS [.exe for W, .zip for Mac]

    While I don't recall ever using it, I thought there was someplace in D/S to turn on/off CMS.

     

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485

    It's all back to normal for me. The Start/Stop CMS commands are on, at least, the Content Library and Smart Content tabs' context menu ("hamburger" or right-click).

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,040
    edited June 2022

    [Mod note - this is the old Valentina database, and has not been used by Daz Studio since version 4.9]

    ...try this:

    Open Windows Task Manger and go to the Services Tab.  There should be an entry labelled DAZContentManagement.  Check the Status to see if it is "Running" or "Stopped".  If it says "Sopped" right click o it which will show a drop down menu that has three options "Start Service", "Stop Service" "Go to Process".  Click "Start Service". 

    Before this I would shut down the Daz programme and restart it afterwards.

    *****Note" I am on Windows 7 so not sure how Windows 10 displays this information*****

    I've had similar happen before and had to do this. 

    Also, was there a Windows Update just before this? 

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Ideas:

    Edit > Preferences > CMS settings ... cluster directory ... C:/Users/.../AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/cms

    Now it no longer shows Categoeries or Products at all.

    https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_18869  Manually download/install the one for the OS [.exe for W, .zip for Mac]

    I did this and now what is the next step?

    While I don't recall ever using it, I thought there was someplace in D/S to turn on/off CMS.

     

    This is all new to me. And now I've lost the Categories and Products altogether.

     

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    kyoto kid said:

    ...try this:

    Open Windows Task Manger and go to the Services Tab.  There should be an entry labelled DAZContentManagement.  Check the Status to see if it is "Running" or "Stopped".  If it says "Sopped" right click o it which will show a drop down menu that has three options "Start Service", "Stop Service" "Go to Process".  Click "Start Service". 

    Before this I would shut down the Daz programme and restart it afterwards.

    *****Note" I am on Windows 7 so not sure how Windows 10 displays this information*****

    I've had similar happen before and had to do this. 

    Also, was there a Windows Update just before this? 

    As a matter of fact, yes.

     

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    What is the file name that I am supposed to point CMS to?

    Not the folder name but the name in the folder.

     

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,485

    You just point to the folder. You had metadata before, so you had a working CMS installation previously. Not sure what installing it again will do to the data.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,040

    ...was everything OK before the update? 

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    kyoto kid said:

    ...was everything OK before the update? 

    Yes, I believe so... but now I've pointed CMS setting elsewhere and I don't know where I had it before.

     

    What is the right direction? Where do I find it?

    If I point it back in the right direction, what do I do then?

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,337
    edited June 2022

    The concept of pointing to a folder, is to point the correct folder in the first place. If your CMS wasn't located to the same place ... I don't know where you put it. Mine was a default location. Maybe under another user account?

    At any rate, if/when all else fails, could be it's time to reinstall the program. Use the Control Panel to uninstall it and the Postgre. Installing D/S should also be installing another Postgre. [I think if you installed it with DIM, you might have to uninstall with DIM too. I install programs manually.]

    And yikes, YES, Windows' Updates have changed how other programs are working too :-(  And they made the changes withOUT notifying that any changes were being made too.

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    Okay.... removed  DAZ Studio.and PostgreSQL CMS and then reinstalled.

     

    No luck.

     

    I tried going to services but there is no mention of PostgreSQL CMS under Services in the Task Manager.

     

    I am really lost

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    Even if I have to redo all the work again, I just want to get it back to listing directories and allowing me to rebuild my Categories. *CRY*

     

  • Saxa -- SDSaxa -- SD Posts: 872
    edited June 2022

    Use Categories exclusively myself.  So totally get your setup.

    Below is a screengrab of taskmamanger showing small clip of process name that should auto show when you have DAZ Studio up and running.

    Have you tried installing the 2nd DAZ Studio, like Northof45 wrote above?

    You would have to buy Beta (free), and install.  His one experience showed CMS was perma-off, until he ran 2nd DS. Then in his later post, added that an on-of switch under the content tab as he writes. But maybe that doesn't work 100%?  Running another DS install would be probably a good option.  PostgreSQL Server running again is key IMO.

     

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    HUZZAH!!! PROBLEM SOLVED!

     

    If thias happens to you, first make asure that ALL Windows updates have completed. Then check your cirectory.

     

    If that doesn't work, then reinstall both DAZ and PostgreCMS.

     

    I AM SO HAPPY IT'S ALL BACK! ALL RECOVERED!

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,824

    As I asked above, were these actually set up as new products? Have you backed up either your database (with DS, DIM, Daz Central, and carrara closed) or exported userdata? Products are written to the /Runtime/Support/ folder automatically, user data (not set up as a new/edited product) is exported on demand, either can be reimported.

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