Western Express Train Bundle

PixelSploiting

 What if it was called Steampunk Express Train Bundle?

There are many "Victorian"and "Medieval"products in the store that are factually Steampunk and Fantasy. This one fits with the rest.

maikdecker

PixelSploiting said:

 What if it was called Steampunk Express Train Bundle?

There are many "Victorian"and "Medieval"products in the store that are factually Steampunk and Fantasy. This one fits with the rest.

Considering what happens here at DAZland, they could even call it "Viking Steam Locomotive"

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Has anyone really BOUGHT that product yet? 'Cause I would love to hear something about stuff like moving parts... wheels, doors and whatnots... are there any? Or is it a solid unmoving block of pixels?

tsroemi

maikdecker said:

PixelSploiting said:

 What if it was called Steampunk Express Train Bundle?

There are many "Victorian"and "Medieval"products in the store that are factually Steampunk and Fantasy. This one fits with the rest.

Considering what happens here at DAZland, they could even call it "Viking Steam Locomotive"

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Has anyone really BOUGHT that product yet? 'Cause I would love to hear something about stuff like moving parts... wheels, doors and whatnots... are there any? Or is it a solid unmoving block of pixels?

Second that, I'm also quite curious about the model still, despite the inaccuracies. Would also love to see some renders, because the interior, especially the second (third?) class waggon, might be quite bashable. So is anyone willing to spill some details / renders? 

Sevrin

maikdecker said:

PixelSploiting said:

 What if it was called Steampunk Express Train Bundle?

There are many "Victorian"and "Medieval"products in the store that are factually Steampunk and Fantasy. This one fits with the rest.

Considering what happens here at DAZland, they could even call it "Viking Steam Locomotive"

 

I think you mean "Viking Steampunk Locomotive". 

kyoto kid

lou_harper said:

Cybersox said:

My understanding is that DAZ DOES have a policy about not allowing items that are too close to real world products, hence the reason for the complete lack of recognizeable modern car models, and why even products as old as WW2 are seldom truly accurate.  That said, even if there isn't such a policy, I've long given up on expecting things that are actually realistic here given the  "jets" with propellers, sailing ships made of concrete, toilets without seats, etc., and let's not even get into the mad love love for "armor" with cutouts directly over the vital organs, and high-heels on everything no matter how impractical or historically inaccurate.  Fortunately, DAZ isn't the only game in town and there are vendors like Dryjack, 3D Classics and Vanishing Point over at Rendo who toe the line to history a bit more stridently.     

There are actually a bunch of cars in the store that are pretty much exact replicas of real car models, even very recognizable ones like VW Minubus and Beatle. They don't have the logo but they unmistakable. Polish' vintage cars too. And car models don't go out of trade mark protection ever. Studebakers stopped producing forever ago, but it is still protected. So while you're right, DAZ sometimes removes products that are too close to trademarked items, there are still plenty of iffy products, especially cars in the store.

...I love Studebakers.  My favourite was the Hawk series. Very claassy.

 

Compared to then most (if not all) cars today look like rubbish.

Bendinggrass

McGyver said:

nonesuch00 said:

I have it in my cart but it's be a long time before i can buy it. What I noticed was the chimney, or whatever it's called, where the steam smoke comes out seems huge compared to any train I've seen but I'm far from an authority on any model train.

I think the idea was to capture the impression of an "American" type locomotive of roughly the late 1850s... and probably as Fishtales pointed out, something like "The General" or other similar contemporary locomotives... for that the Smoke Stack (chimney) is sort of correct as they were very large and funnel shaped... the steam and sand domes on the boiler, and the head lamp are also more or less the right size for such an Engine, based on it's overall size... but it's hard to tell because as a whole it's an amalgamation of many different eras and national styles... there's a lot going on in that department... a lot.

Seprate from that...

It's a nice model if it's a fantasy model/alternate universe/parallel history kinda render.. there are lots of details and such and it looks good... if you are going to use it on a book cover for a civil war era railroad story or something where you are inviting attention to historical detail, maybe it's not where you want to go... if you are going "Wild, Wild West" or "Aliens VS Cowboys"... it's just fine, I don't see anyone arguing details where it's being attack by a Martian Tripod or something.

I've made lots of large scale (outdoor) model locomotives for clients in the past, so it's hard for me to see past the conglomeration of styles and ages, but looking at the details and work that went into it, that I respect... one client had me make him a "kit based" model for a fantasy train line where he wanted the attributes of several of his favorite locomotives combined into a massive unique "flagship" loco for a fictitious manufacturer... for that I had to combine parts from five different models from three different manufacturers and have it mechanically functional and sort of believable (but not historically accurate)... like pipes and details had to make sense...
There were no plans, just a general "could you blend all this into something that looks like this bad sketch"...
I thought that would be easy... it's actually not... granted that was plastic and metal, and this is polygons, but still... if you are trying to avoid directly copying an existing design (which I'm assuming was the reason for combining so many different styles and eras) it's actually hard to make it all look believable or even functional.

I dunno... I didn't want to bash the model which clearly had a lot of work go into it.

Its just not very accurate as an American "Old West" era locomotive to anyone who might know trains... otherwise if accuracy is not an issue or the train is not the focus of the render, it's a fine fantasy model.

 

Just as a general modeling note... most of the locomotive manufacturers from that time were small shops that didn't even survive into the 20th century (plus they used to copy each other's innovations as closely as possible so style is a mishmash of similar looking parts)... the manufacturers that did go on to be big were mostly gone by the 1950s and as far as I'm aware, the locomotives from the 1800s are fair game as any copyrights expired long ago... (pre-Mickey Mouse©  perpetual copyright nonsense)... at most, some pseudo-historical society may have purchased or copyrighted a particular engine's name like "The General", "Texas" or "Jupiter" and perhaps the corresponding boiler plate numbers... so you have a lot of leeway for accuracy as long as you don't call it by name and engine number. Fudge certain details by spacing them further or closer, adding more brackets, wider boiler bands, different cab windows, roof shape... little believable things that could be explained by it being made by a fictional manufacturer from that time...  call it "Apollo" and give it the number "8" on the boilerplate and it'll be fine, nobody is going to sue you.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, but I do like to dress up as one and shout "Objection!", "Sidebar!" and "My client pleads insanity!" at random strangers... but that's generally what I've learned over the years.

That's really interesting... that you make outdoor train models. 

Could you post some of your made models in the out door environment? I would love to see them.

And your disclaimer is just so funny.... got a real chuckle from that.... amen for chuckles. 

McGyver

Bendinggrass said:.

That's really interesting... that you make outdoor train models. 

Could you post some of your made models in the out door environment? I would love to see them.

And your disclaimer is just so funny.... got a real chuckle from that.... amen for chuckles. 
 

Here's one that was easy to find...

There are a few more on this page near the bottom...

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/59113/an-ot-thread-for-images/p8

The best ones I haven't really gotten around to scanning as they were photographed in 35mm film.

maikdecker

McGyver said:

Bendinggrass said:.

That's really interesting... that you make outdoor train models. 

Could you post some of your made models in the out door environment? I would love to see them.

And your disclaimer is just so funny.... got a real chuckle from that.... amen for chuckles. 
 

Here's one that was easy to find...

There are a few more on this page near the bottom...

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/59113/an-ot-thread-for-images/p8

The best ones I haven't really gotten around to scanning as they were photographed in 35mm film.

II love the fact that you made that train at 1:1 scale. And I also admire the USB Potato and the tincan telephone from the other threat. And the tits.

tsroemi

McGyver said:

Bendinggrass said:.

That's really interesting... that you make outdoor train models. 

Could you post some of your made models in the out door environment? I would love to see them.

And your disclaimer is just so funny.... got a real chuckle from that.... amen for chuckles. 
 

Here's one that was easy to find...

There are a few more on this page near the bottom...

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/59113/an-ot-thread-for-images/p8

The best ones I haven't really gotten around to scanning as they were photographed in 35mm film.

Oh wow, WOW! What a cool job to have! 

nonesuch00

McGyver said:

Bendinggrass said:.

That's really interesting... that you make outdoor train models. 

Could you post some of your made models in the out door environment? I would love to see them.

And your disclaimer is just so funny.... got a real chuckle from that.... amen for chuckles. 
 

Here's one that was easy to find...

There are a few more on this page near the bottom...

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/59113/an-ot-thread-for-images/p8

The best ones I haven't really gotten around to scanning as they were photographed in 35mm film.

That looks like a real train to me. It looks great.

hacsart

Well.. I was lucky enough to be involved in a steam loco restoration at CP before I retired - I was taken under the wing of an old retired Master Mechanic Steam, whocame back to help supervise the work. He said that before I got to touch anything I had to learn the basics and workings of steam. Was a fun thing to be involved with.

CPR 2816

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nonesuch00

hacsart said:

Well.. I was lucky enough to be involved in a steam loco restoration at CP before I retired - I was taken under the wing of an old retired Master Mechanic Steam, whocame back to help supervise the work. He said that before I got to touch anything I had to learn the basics and workings of steam. Was a fun thing to be involved with.

CPR 2816

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I have one of those pocket watches. Bought it way back when I was a teenager. I don't know how I managed to hold onto it all those years.

kyoto kid

hacsart said:

Well.. I was lucky enough to be involved in a steam loco restoration at CP before I retired - I was taken under the wing of an old retired Master Mechanic Steam, whocame back to help supervise the work. He said that before I got to touch anything I had to learn the basics and workings of steam. Was a fun thing to be involved with.

CPR 2816

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..nice.

We have a couple old Steam Locomotives here in Portland that were restored and are run from time to time. 

Spokane Portland and Seattle #700

Soutnern Pacific #4449

Hoping to see the recently restored UP #4014 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" up here someday.  We did have the UP Challenger #844 (4-6-6-4) make an appearance here in 1995 at a festival held at Portland's Union Station.

 

Looking forward to going to England someday when all the covid stuff finally simmers down.  They have quite a number of old stream locomotives that are retired to running condition and are often used for excursion trains. Would love to ride to Edinburgh on the original Flying Scotsman, 

Always wanted one of those railway conductor pocket watches,.  So easy to read when you get older and the eyesight starts fading.

 

hacsart

That pocket watch is a 1950 Hamilton 992b, and the nice bit is that it was an actual CPR issue  watch.. The Accutron was one of my approved work watches.. (and yes, I did get to run 2816 in the yard once, as a retirement gift from the crew.. couldn;t run on the main line as I didn;t have the proper qualification.

hacsart

Got a few other railroad watches... a 1930 Hamilton 992 in a white gold case.

a Rodania wrist watch (another work watch, CPR issue.)

and a Mondaine - official Swiss Railways watch

kyoto kid

...still, being allowed to run a steam locomotive at all sounds awesome. 

 

hacsart

oh yeah... it was quite amazing.. 2816 was rated at 4000 hp at 60mph. 

kyoto kid said:

...still, being allowed to run a steam locomotive at all sounds awesome. 

 

nonesuch00

hacsart said:

Got a few other railroad watches... a 1930 Hamilton 992 in a white gold case.

a Rodania wrist watch (another work watch, CPR issue.)

and a Mondaine - official Swiss Railways watch

The Modaine is my favorie but I've not one. I like how it goes backwards 1 second every so often. It's weird to see it. I saw it on accident once when I was checking the time on the hauptbahnoff's station clock.