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I've been pondering adding another 3090 to my system after the 40 series launch. I think cooling the thing at a reasonable noise level would be the killer. Be interesting to see how things shake out.
I'm a bit disappointed that the RTX-3060 prices didn't fall back to MSRP and are still priced about $75 over. Yesterday I received my new ASUS "Dual-RTX-3060-012G-V2" for my secondary machine (I already have a 3-fan Asus "Tuf-Gaming" 3060 in my primary machine), but am a little frustrated that I now see some 3080's for under $800.
Gee if I had waited I could have forced myself to justify the extra cost. Sigh.
Yeah, I could have returned the 3060, and gotten a 3080 today, but I was so excited to receive my new 3060 yesterday, that it was out of the box and in the computer before I had to pee.
And upon deep introspection I realize that I don't really need a 3080, nor even a second 3060, I will survive to spend on another day.
I'll just sit here and play with my new toy until then.
When I was a kid in the '50s I wanted the "8 1/2 Erector Set" for Christmas, but only received the "6 1/2 set".
No construction of a Ferris Wheel for me, I had to be content with the drawbridge. But at least I had an Erector Set.
I used that motor and transmision gearbox for decades on various projects.
Put the two 3060 cards in one machine and order a 3090ti for the other. Simples.
It seems GPU prices could take another hit in the very near future, next three months, as ETH likely will finally move away from GPU mining (see: Ethereum Merge Date Is Set!! | GPU Mining Is Changing BE READY). Other GPU-mineable crypto coins do not seem to be able to provide an alternative source of revenue for miners. The miner in the video is even worried we will see such a surplus of GPUs he will not even be able to "give them away".
It might be better postponing purchasing a new GPU to wait prices will come down even more if you want one.
Another point to consider, before upgrading, is what version of studio is being used and whether you will have to upgrade the version to be able to use the card. Then there is the point of where the current version stands with issues.
I'm thinking if they keep on increasing the power requirements(and size) of these cards, the only alternative is going to be making some kind of thunderbolt-type port plugged into a PCIe slot that the card will plug into externally. Looking beyond 4000 series cards, I just can't imagine them getting any bigger with even higher power specs without the need for using an external solution. For something like a 4080 or 4090, one is probably going to need at least 1000+ watt PSU just to keep the system stable while gaming or rendering, and even moreso for overclocked cards.
If you're putting two of those in the same system, you'll want something like a 3090 Kingpin by EVGA or a custom water cooling setup. They throw off a lot of heat.
My 3090 already has it's own loop, so I'd end up needing another block and at least one more rad, and a PSU. That would probably push the price past where it would be worth it for me personally. I'm hoping that the 4090 will run cool while offering 2x 3090 speed, be ok on a decent 850w PSU and cost <1000. Yeah, I know.
I know for a fact, given the projected increased power demand of the 4090, its not going to run cooler. More wattage = more heat.
No, you're not going to get twice the performance of a 3090 with a single 4090. Not going to happen. At best, you would get around 60% increase with regards to clock speeds, which does not translate into rendering that much faster than a 3090. Rendering with a 4090(~16,000 CUDA cores) vs two 3090 cards(~21,000 CUDA cores) is still going to be slower when it comes to rendering.
I wouldn't put anything less than a 1000-watt PSU in a system that will be using a 4090 unless the issue of power spikes with their cards has been addressed, which as it currently stands, it hasn't.
...crikey I remember when Nvidia came our with their first VCA which was built around 8 Quadro M6000 (12 GB) cards and cost 50,000$ which offered 24,500 cores
21,000 cores with just two 24 GB 3090s for a total of around 3,000$ (which can be NVLinked to pool VRAM) really shows how far we've come.
Curious to see what the 50xx generation will bring if a single 4090 has 16,000 cores (which is more than 5 Maxwell Titan-Xs worth).
Browsed past the RTX-3090 window at Amazon.. "modern window shopping". Saw three cards under $1270, one was $1250; all below the "prime day price". In fact, there are more brands at the 1300 price point now. Still too expensive; but it's nice to know the prices continue to drop.
48GB of VRAM.. oh my, that might fit the whole Emperor's arival on the death star scene in video memory.
Newegg has a RTX 3080 12gb Card for $769 or $739 after rebate....
But, dang it, they don't seem to be dropping the 3060 12gb cards much... I was hoping that they would get nearer to the $329 MSRP, but the best I am seeing is the $389 range.
I am a bit concerned that the 40x0s will be delayed even further...
Nvidia made a huge order on the 4000 series chips/cards via TSMC before crypto crash and it looks like TSMC is holding them too it.
The reason for delay doesn't seem to be "technical/Manufactoring (40x0 launch was supposed to be Aug/Sep) but instead the AIB Partner companies are complaining about the huge number of 3000 series cards they still have to sell.
Yesterday, Best Buy (.com) had RTX 3090 TIs for $1499.00 which is cheaper than MSRP of the original MSRP of the RTX 3090.
About a month ago, I was satisfied with the 3090 prices on Amazon being about $100 over MSRP, and snagged two. I had been chomping at the bit for almost two years and couldn't wait, I actually have scenes that don't fit in the 11G of my 2080tis without optimization. I am extremely happy with my procurement; between them and Cycles X, I'm basically always in rendered mode. It's not realtime, but fast enough to serve the purpose that realtime provides. But, my god, the heat in the room now :)
A month later, I could have saved almost $900. But I suppose I can be forgiven for not foreseeing prices this doggoned low.
Yeah, but unfortunately, that's only part of the components list for being able to get your full money's worth out of it. Need a motherboard that supports 512 GB system RAM, 8x 64GB RAM sticks, and an air conditioned room. Tbh, I wouldn't bother NVlinking RTX 3090s, at least not for rendering. Theres a lot more heat mitigation to deal with compared to the professional cards. The professional cards blow the heat out the back of the case and is more suited for NVlink whereas the gaming cards dump heat into the surrounding interior case(unless you use a liquid cooling solution, which can be a ball ache for some).
...still a lot less than 50,000$ with no linking. (eight of what was then Nvidia's top of the line card and you still only had 12 GB for rendering)
I saw the response Cathy (Mec4D) was getting with only two Titan Xs in the videos she posted back then. In Iray view mode a scene would fully refresh in mere seconds and that was only with one quarter the cores the VCA had. With 21,000 CUDA, plus 164 RT, and 656 Tensor cores, that would likely make screen refreshes pretty much instantaneous to the point you'd could work in Iray mode all the time.
MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 24GB $1,269.99
Most seem priced in the $1200 range now. But even EVGA's B-STOCK are only $50 cheaper, and that gives you a 1 year warranty instead of 3yr...
The 3060 12gb cards are hovering at around $400... no joy.
First Ones I've seen Sub-1K.... It is sold by Woot (part of Amazon group) they don't say whether they are used or not... Manufacturer's warranty.
ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity OC
$999.99
I've have one 3090, will wait now till the 4090 appears