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Genesis 9 body shapes morphs

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  • billyben_0077a25354billyben_0077a25354 Posts: 771

    What, no fangs?

    The head morph set has beautiful Elf/Vulcan/Vampire ears but no fangs sad

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,025

    billyben_0077a25354 said:

    What, no fangs?

    The head morph set has beautiful Elf/Vulcan/Vampire ears but no fangs sad

    This set has fangs, but I don't think the official set usually has them. 

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,309

    billyben_0077a25354 said:

    What, no fangs?

    The head morph set has beautiful Elf/Vulcan/Vampire ears but no fangs sad

    ND Fantasy Shaping for Genesis 9 | Daz 3D 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    I have never known the official Daz head morphs to have fangs. Conversely, it's always been rather light on teeth morphs ;).

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    Mada said:

    I threw a bone and got chewed up :P The shapes will be this week.

    I appreciate you letting us know, it let me think of other things instead of wondering just how long I would have to wait to be able to actually make characters with G9. :)

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,020

    Shoulder Width & Torso Length are missing from G9?

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    xyer0 said:

    Shoulder Width & Torso Length are missing from G9?

     

    They are part of the Genesis 9 Starter Essentials

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/86958/file_list :

    /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Daz 3D/Base Proportion/body_bs_ProportionTorsoLength.dsf

    /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Daz 3D/Base Proportion/body_bs_ProportionShoulderWidth.dsf 

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,020

    Thanks, @Kerya!

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    TheRetiredSailor said:

    Once upon a time, Victoria 3 or maybe Victoria 4, there was a morph for the eyes for the epicanthic fold.  This gave the distinctive skin fold of the upper eyelid that covers the inner corner (medial canthus) of the eye.  It is a seen in people of Asian descent.

    Does this morph exist in the Genesis 9 Head Shapes (or anywhere else for that matter)?

    Try the Eyelid fold inner toward dial... see if that gets the effect you are looking for  ( I think that is what you are looking for anyway.)

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,254

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    frank0314 said:

    Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras.

    Men have nipples, too... And contrary to DAZ's beliefs even children have them. And at least here in Evrope it really happens that in the summer little children at the beach might run around totally unclothed with nobody raising an eyebrwo about them. Or thinking dirty thoughts about it.

    So I can assure you, during my lifetime I have seen my share of nipples in different shapes, sizes and colours, male and female, on quite a few occasions, near the beach and elsewhere...

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    frank0314 said:

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

    Removing the geometry and forcing people to find alternative solutions, means that instead of somewhat normal albeit exagerated details, one gets monsters that devour smaller mammals for breakfast... 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    maikdecker said:

    frank0314 said:

    Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras.

    Men have nipples, too... And contrary to DAZ's beliefs even children have them. And at least here in Evrope it really happens that in the summer little children at the beach might run around totally unclothed with nobody raising an eyebrwo about them. Or thinking dirty thoughts about it.

    So I can assure you, during my lifetime I have seen my share of nipples in different shapes, sizes and colours, male and female, on quite a few occasions, near the beach and elsewhere...

    Not to mention our sauna-culture, where the whole family goes to sauna together in the nude without there being anything sexual about it, happens sometimes between friends too - It's just bathing and relaxing. 

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    PerttiA said:

    frank0314 said:

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

    Removing the geometry and forcing people to find alternative solutions, means that instead of somewhat normal albeit exagerated details, one gets monsters that devour smaller mammals for breakfast... 

    I am sure that Meipe will rectify that situation.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,364
    I'm more concerned about how the visible breast compression on male shape can be addressed and how that may potentially impact garments.
  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    frank0314 said:

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

    Actually, they are seen very often. The silhouette of mine always show through even though I have both undergarments and shirt on lol! So do many other men. I live in a subtropical place though.
  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395
    edited October 2022

    frank0314 said:

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

    as someone pointed males also have nipples and they have the torso displaying a lot, also as others pointed even with cloth specially bikinis nipples can be visible for many womans.

     

    also the problem is not just "nipples" but also belly buttom(navel), basically any "detail" in g9 is high level HD, because of the ugly/weird uniform retopology which again while is "amazing" for artists it's bad for part of the customers because now they have to deal with  or high level hd characters or "toddlers dools characters" because even the most basic human details are missing", because of the daz team choice, g9 for game design is much limited as much metahuman, as i've told currently reallusion characters now become a much better option than daz because they also have the "unisex/nonbinary body" but it was done in the righth way where you can have all details in base level(niples, navel and others), where daz is now failing epic because of the choise did on g9.

     

    I really can't believe daz team could not recognize how of a big flaw this deal could be trying to go metahuman way, because in this way for peoples wanting to make "humans" now metahuman become the best option compared with g9, due to both having the same flaw/mistake, but again it much better optmized for unreal than daz the only advantage of daz which also is "limited" is the morphs" but once you buy a plugin which allow create morphs inside unreal metahuman become even much better option than g9.

     

    don't really need to think too much how g9 become much less desirable than g8, due to the limitations.

     

    the only remain reason for someone to still use g9 for game would be maybe for the "gens"/anatomic element, otherwise they just will go with metahuman for sure, between very expensive(you have to pay the interactive license even for the free base mesh) and with many limitations and complications to deal when using on unreal and totally free and full optmized/ingrated to unreal) which one peoples would use??

     

    so far all others genesis characters are easy by far a much better option than g9.

     

    g9 currently is only really good for "render"(and you have to have a strong pc to deal with all the really high resolution characters), because for game you really have much better options in the market, even previous genesis characters are much better option currently.

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  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,033

    Genesis 9 will shine in portrait renders, like Metahuman or V4 in old days. Hope, there will be Genesis 10 soon. ;-)

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633

    frank0314 said:

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

    Another case is the no bra movement. Many don't wear bras at places anymore and it's no big deal.

    Also in some historical renders it's just normal to have no tops.

  • alienareaalienarea Posts: 528

    Paintbox said:

    frank0314 said:

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

    Another case is the no bra movement. Many don't wear bras at places anymore and it's no big deal.

    Also in some historical renders it's just normal to have no tops.

    Also, there's nothing wrong with nude renders.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Masterstroke said:

    Genesis 9 will shine in portrait renders, like Metahuman or V4 in old days. Hope, there will be Genesis 10 soon. ;-)

    I didn't understand the timing in the first place, it would've made much more sense if they had waited until DS 5, but now that we have seen 'them' and had some time to play with 'them', I'm sort of glad they didn't wait for DS 5.

    Although, the direction they have taken the figure raises some concerns, whether were are ever again going to see anything better, not to mention taking into consideration the hopes that have been presented here on the forums - Have they now taken the path of Microsoft, abandoning the old (experienced) client base and their wishes, reaching for the uninformed and inexperienced masses. If they have, they would need to hire some real experts for their QC first...

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633

    alienarea said:

    Paintbox said:

    frank0314 said:

    What would you need to dial in nipples for a game in any regard? Seeing them in the real world is pretty few and far between because of Bras. Them showing on tops isn't very natural these days unless they are wearing a very thin bra, a very thin shirt and it's in the middle of winter and they were outside for a bit of time. IMO the only time they would need to be used is if your doing nude rendering

    Another case is the no bra movement. Many don't wear bras at places anymore and it's no big deal.

    Also in some historical renders it's just normal to have no tops.

    Also, there's nothing wrong with nude renders.

    Exactly!

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,364
    imo, if it was not expected that the majority of users would be rendering bare or mostly uncovered female breasts, G9 wouldn't have the ample bosom it has by default. If there's another explanation, I 'm open to it.
  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Timbales said:

    imo, if it was not expected that the majority of users would be rendering bare or mostly uncovered female breasts, G9 wouldn't have the ample bosom it has by default. If there's another explanation, I 'm open to it.

    Those are just for making a bump on the clothing. 

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    PerttiA said:

    Not to mention our sauna-culture, where the whole family goes to sauna together in the nude without there being anything sexual about it, happens sometimes between friends too - It's just bathing and relaxing. 

    Finland, is it? I heard interesting things about Sauna games played when a group of male friends go in the sauna together... especially a supposed game called Gollum sounded... interesting. devil

  • ZippyGuitarZippyGuitar Posts: 849
    maikdecker said:

    PerttiA said:

    Not to mention our sauna-culture, where the whole family goes to sauna together in the nude without there being anything sexual about it, happens sometimes between friends too - It's just bathing and relaxing. 

    Finland, is it? I heard interesting things about Sauna games played when a group of male friends go in the sauna together... especially a supposed game called Gollum sounded... interesting. devil

    Curiosity killed the cat. And I just had to do a Google search. :P
  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    GlenWebb said:

    maikdecker said:

    PerttiA said:

    Not to mention our sauna-culture, where the whole family goes to sauna together in the nude without there being anything sexual about it, happens sometimes between friends too - It's just bathing and relaxing. 

    Finland, is it? I heard interesting things about Sauna games played when a group of male friends go in the sauna together... especially a supposed game called Gollum sounded... interesting. devil

    Curiosity killed the cat. And I just had to do a Google search. :P

    winkcheekylaugh 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    GlenWebb said:

    maikdecker said:

    PerttiA said:

    Not to mention our sauna-culture, where the whole family goes to sauna together in the nude without there being anything sexual about it, happens sometimes between friends too - It's just bathing and relaxing. 

    Finland, is it? I heard interesting things about Sauna games played when a group of male friends go in the sauna together... especially a supposed game called Gollum sounded... interesting. devil

    Curiosity killed the cat. And I just had to do a Google search. :P

    Me too, and I'm finnish...

    The first thing that jumps out, is calling the game Gollum, which is quite recent character, and the seats in sauna don't have gaps big enough = Urban legend invented by some kids.

  • Twilight76Twilight76 Posts: 318

    Found the first Geograft for G9...

    Doesen't take long for this to be released

  • billyben_0077a25354billyben_0077a25354 Posts: 771

    Twilight76 said:

    Found the first Geograft for G9...

    Doesen't take long for this to be released

    Would that be for mammary gland protrusions?  I found them too.

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