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  • maikdecker said:

    When I read the thread title I expected a link to an option to give some money for getting a working premade search engine for DAZland... devil

    I have to admit, I do not use the search option of the shop, as it most of the time delivers either too many (and wrong), to few (and even then some wrong) or just wrong results... the categorizing seems to catch too many synonyms for many things which leads to tons of wrong results.

    For example searching for "USS Horizon Interior" leads to

    When using the Artist filter on the shop page the above product doesn't seem to exist, even though I bought it just yesterday. And this is not the only item that doesn't get listed after using the search option or the Artist filter for several (or all?) artists/products.

     

    When I do that same search I get two more results than you do.  I'm guessing it is because you already own the product (even though you have hide items I own unchecked.)  Can you try that search again, and once you see the results, check and then uncheck the Hide items I own, and see if they show up?  We are seeing a similar issue with the search results page and maturity filter.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752
    edited November 2022

    DAZ_Steve said:

    When I do that same search I get two more results than you do.  I'm guessing it is because you already own the product (even though you have hide items I own unchecked.)  Can you try that search again, and once you see the results, check and then uncheck the Hide items I own, and see if they show up?  We are seeing a similar issue with the search results page and maturity filter.

    Redone the search. Checked and unchecked the "hide items..." button and got the same search result as already shown.

    When not using "" (so when only searching for USS Horizon Interior without putting it into ") I get a different result, but still the product that I search for isn't found

    So the USS Horizon SPACESHIP is found. But the product containing the interior for it isn't. I tried the turn on/off hide owned products button here, too, of course. And also the on/off for the maturity filter.

    What me confuses me most, that the product doesn't even show up when I dedicatedly try to list all items by the PA

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  • BlueFingersBlueFingers Posts: 904
    edited November 2022

    Searching "Victorian" returns also everything with Victoria in the name, making it hard to find something Victorian.

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  • Tried searching for "anna" (looking for a specific character), and got back a bunch of matches that seemingly have no connection to that name:

    https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?mature=true&q=Anna

    …including…

    https://www.daz3d.com/big-game-outfit-whole-uniform-for-genesis-8-and-81-males

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-kings-magister-for-genesis-8-and-81-males-bundle

    https://www.daz3d.com/viking-raider-outfit-textures

    https://www.daz3d.com/q-suit-textures

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-bally-bounderfoot-textures

    https://www.daz3d.com/space-corps-textures

    Digging deeper, I see that 99% of these results are from a PA named "Anna Benjamin". That makes sense (now that I've figured it out)… but it would be great if searching for a specific PA's work (which is useful!) was tangential to searching for content by keyword.

  • jjmainorjjmainor Posts: 490

    Not sure if this quilifies, but items I own are showing up "Hide Items I Own" is checked.

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  • jjmainor said:

    Not sure if this quilifies, but items I own are showing up "Hide Items I Own" is checked.

    Agreed. I'm seeing that the Hide items I own as well as the MAture cotnent flags don't seem to be consistently doing what they say they are on the search results. 

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,141

    Let's say I want to shop for female characters.

    Searching for character also shows me shoes, clothes, poses, shaders, texture sets and plugins.

    There's no way to filter the store for just a gender specific list of characters.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,288

    DAZ_Steve said:

    jjmainor said:

    Not sure if this quilifies, but items I own are showing up "Hide Items I Own" is checked.

    Agreed. I'm seeing that the Hide items I own as well as the MAture cotnent flags don't seem to be consistently doing what they say they are on the search results. 

    Is your avatar from a coming Genesis 9 toon product?

  • nonesuch00 said:

    DAZ_Steve said:

    jjmainor said:

    Not sure if this quilifies, but items I own are showing up "Hide Items I Own" is checked.

    Agreed. I'm seeing that the Hide items I own as well as the MAture cotnent flags don't seem to be consistently doing what they say they are on the search results. 

    Is your avatar from a coming Genesis 9 toon product?

    No, currently I'm using Luthbel's Dwarf for Gen 8.  One of my favs :)

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,288

    DAZ_Steve said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    DAZ_Steve said:

    jjmainor said:

    Not sure if this quilifies, but items I own are showing up "Hide Items I Own" is checked.

    Agreed. I'm seeing that the Hide items I own as well as the MAture cotnent flags don't seem to be consistently doing what they say they are on the search results. 

    Is your avatar from a coming Genesis 9 toon product?

    No, currently I'm using Luthbel's Dwarf for Gen 8.  One of my favs :)

     

    OK, thanks.

  • RangerRickRangerRick Posts: 289
    edited December 2022

    Is there any more information on the new category structure that's coming?  Do you separate "what things are" from "what they are compatible with"?

    ETA: Is there even a list of what the current categories are and what their matching icon is?

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  • RangerRick said:

    Is there any more information on the new category structure that's coming?  Do you separate "what things are" from "what they are compatible with"?

    ETA: Is there even a list of what the current categories are and what their matching icon is?

    I'm hoping to have the new structure out before end of year. I could answeer more questions on it here, but it will derail this whole thread.  So let me just tease a bit and say be patient, good stuff to come this year stil :)

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,640
    edited December 2022

    DAZ_Steve said:

    In fact, I'll put a bount out: Whoever comes up with the most frustrating search that likely affects the most people gets $100 in store credit.  Other rewards will be given out as well.

    If I enter DAZ Steve I get some weird results

    https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?mature=false&q=daz+steve

    Does that count laugh

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,737

    DoctorJellybean said:

    DAZ_Steve said:

    In fact, I'll put a bount out: Whoever comes up with the most frustrating search that likely affects the most people gets $100 in store credit.  Other rewards will be given out as well.

    If I enter DAZ Steve I get some weird results

    https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?mature=false&q=daz+steve

    Does that count laugh

    At least some have the word "Steve", but Shark Poses????? What does that tell us about Daz Steve?

  • cjfeacjfea Posts: 245

    In addition to the weird search results, I've noticed for sometime now that the "Hide Items I Own" has been excluding items I DON'T OWN.  This has happened several times when I have searched the daily sales offers.  I now turn off the "Hide Items I Own."  Bests.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,782
    edited December 2022

    Sometimes despite the keyword or search term being one of the words in the product title, the search did not reveal the product. A few days ago I had to leave Daz and go to google and find it that way. Next time I'll note the specifics. But I do love the improvements especially the new headers fetured on the PA store fronts. For those of you who haven't noticed them check out  Amaranth's. There are many others but I picked her because she happens to be the source of todays Christmas freebie.

    Also this often happens. I search a term it populates as 1 of two pages, click for page two and it repopulates with page 1 of 7 etc. All I did to replicate this was at the main page for the store, typed the word winter in the search field. Attached are the search results for page 1 (was 1 of 2 pages ) and the other screen shot is when I clicked for page 2 .

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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    Trying to search for core characters doesn't find all the core characters. I found a section called "Genesis 8.1 Core Characters" listed under "Genesis 8.1 People", so I figured this list must be curated. But it leaves out multiple core characters and includes several that are not. Some of the characters it shows are not even in a bundle with a core character. The same holds true for Genesis 8 as well. 

    With so many 'core' characters, having a reliable list would be helpful. There doesn't seem to be a list anywhere.

    The search in general is highly unreliable. I'm not sure what parameters it runs on, but it is all over the place for basically anything I search for. It might bring up some items pertaining to the search term, but it leaves out too many others, even items with the search term in their name. I often use a browser to search the store because I don't feel like I can trust the store search to dig up all the items that may be of interest.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,869
    edited December 2022

    Trying to search anything is a trial at the moment. The most I can see from the current $3.99 sale is 66 out of 82 items. Also my wishlist: I can see 80 of the 86 items as shown in the attached screenshot. Ridiculous!

    Searching by vendor, can't see everything either. Take The Antfarm, I can see 333 of 351. It's possible it's losing DAZ money, but I can't say because I can't see everything up for sale.

    Regards,

    Richard 

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  • And now later in the same day, I can see only 78 of my 86 wishlist items. I have done nothing with my wishlist in the intervening hours.
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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,737

    richardandtracy said:

    Trying to search anything is a trial at the moment. The most I can see from the current $3.99 sale is 66 out of 82 items. Also my wishlist: I can see 80 of the 86 items as shown in the attached screenshot. Ridiculous!

    Searching by vendor, can't see everything either. Take The Antfarm, I can see 333 of 351. It's possible it's losing DAZ money, but I can't say because I can't see everything up for sale.

    Regards,

    Richard 

    Your Show Mature Content is unchecked. Is that why some are hidden?

  • No change if checked or not. But you're right, it should be checked, as I have only ever unchecked it to see if anything changed. And it didn't. Regards, Richard.
  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,869
    edited December 2022
    Further trial. I checked all 3 check boxes in sequence.Twice to get back to where I started, and suddenly I could see all 86. Then did the same again and the display dropped back to 78. Regards, Richard.
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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,021
    edited December 2022

    Not sure if this was mentioned but make sure you allow mature content or you will miss a large portion of the store which is not even actually "mature." 
     

    Never mind, delete, just saw this was just mentioned. I need to read above lol.

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  • Joe2018Joe2018 Posts: 261

    When I look at todays Genesis 8.1 Blow Out Sale (genesis 8.1 blow out sale | Daz 3D), with my "default" Sort by: New arrivals, I get Leanne 8.1 on Page 2 and the Meta Mixer Add-On for her on Page 16. Same with many other Characters. It looks like it is not "Sort by: New arrivals".

  • Joe2018 said:

    When I look at todays Genesis 8.1 Blow Out Sale (genesis 8.1 blow out sale | Daz 3D), with my "default" Sort by: New arrivals, I get Leanne 8.1 on Page 2 and the Meta Mixer Add-On for her on Page 16. Same with many other Characters. It looks like it is not "Sort by: New arrivals".

    Foe some reason a lot of URLs for categories, including these, override the sort order (to Popular) but the option on the page does not update. try setting the sort to soemthing else (e.g. one of the price options) then back to release date.

  • Joe2018Joe2018 Posts: 261

    yes Great that works!

  • NotAnArtistNotAnArtist Posts: 390
    edited December 2022

    Just now in the Daz+ Category Sale, I searched for Qou for Genesis 8.1, which didn't appear on the first page as it did in my non-signed-in computer. It didn't appear whether I specifically chose Ergou as the creator, or searched in the main search function at the top of the page.
    It did appear finally when I shortened the search from Qou for Genesis 8.1 Female, to just Qou. Weird.

    That is just the first of several items I'd like to purchase. I'll continue now and see how it goes. If there are similar problems, I won't bother you with it, but if something different shows up, I'll come back here.
    Thanks!
    Editing to add: Fuseling and Sickleyield don't show in the Artists list. (SURE WITH THOSE WERE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER!)
    Sade shows, but the SYS Monsters in the Dark Textures doesn't, so I had to search via the search at the top of the page, which worked OK. It's like a challenging game to order things today... I don't like games;-)

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  • Thank you all so much for the information and insights.  This has been extremely helpful to enable us to have some great test cases to use as we redo the search and improve it in the coming weeks.  Our winner for this effort is @PerttiA, who will be receiving $100 in store credit for the help.  Everyone else who contributed will receive $10 in store credit for your help as well.  Thank you all so much!!

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