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  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,135
    Monsters, creatures, aliens, etc - definitely of interest to me in general, but...

    Monster Mashup for Genesis 9 Pro Bundle:

    Male and female barely distinguishable at a glance. Creatures do not seem to look any better or even as good as their G8/G3 equivalents.

    Monster Environment Bundle:

    Bundle of older products with no discount for owned components?

    Daz+ Monster Environment Bundle:

    Same as previous.
  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,455

    Chumly said:

    uhhhmmm well....

    The Monster Mashup seems to encapsulate all that I am not happy about G9...
    Here is a demo image...

    My goodness, this seems to be the kind of image that Daz normaly flags as NSFW... and that is the dude!
    Ribcage in the through the breasts?... Man boobs..interesting take. But I see why the artist moved the nipples to the side, otherwise it'd look like....

    Yes, that was the reason I decided against it, even though the faces are great.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,204

    I actually thought they were skin folds not ribs

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,332
    Skin folds aren't even better, neither make any anatomical sense. I don't understand why they even bothered with a 'male' version.
  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 5,926
    edited June 2023

    mding said:

    Thanks for the headsup @Chumly!

    I like the http://dforce XI Old Hag Outfit for Genesis 9, though, nice to see some more witch stuff, lol.

     

    BTW https://www.daz3d.com/cake-one is on sale ATM and i would like to know what is your impression of his/her hdri DOF environments? Had a look at https://www.daz3d.com/ultrahd-iray-hdri-with-dof--holliday-houses which i liked. Is he/she like https://www.daz3d.com/dimensiontheory quality-wise? Thanks!

    @mding Cake One, imo, is superior quality. You could try out her Daz+ Click 'n' Render series to see for yourself cheaply. My favourites are the linked one, and the Pop edition.

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  • mdingmding Posts: 1,243

    xyer0 said:

    mding said:

    Thanks for the headsup @Chumly!

    I like the http://dforce XI Old Hag Outfit for Genesis 9, though, nice to see some more witch stuff, lol.

     

    BTW https://www.daz3d.com/cake-one is on sale ATM and i would like to know what is your impression of his/her hdri DOF environments? Had a look at https://www.daz3d.com/ultrahd-iray-hdri-with-dof--holliday-houses which i liked. Is he/she like https://www.daz3d.com/dimensiontheory quality-wise? Thanks!

    @mding Cake One, imo, is superior quality. You could try out her Daz+ Click 'n' Render series to see for yourself cheaply. My favourites are the linked one, and the Pop edition.

    Many thanks  @xyer0!

    Although i didn't mean the Image Based Lighting sets like click'n'render - i own and frequently use most of them, they are great - but referred to the DOF hdri sets which are meant to be used also as background environment like a beach or a forest path to place your chars into. Did you refer to those, too?

    Thanks again!

  • davesodaveso Posts: 6,999

    the hag clothes look pretty interesting.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    The zombies aren't bad, but the rest are.... I have better looking for both for 8/8.1.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    mding said:

    Thanks for the headsup @Chumly!

    I like the http://dforce XI Old Hag Outfit for Genesis 9, though, nice to see some more witch stuff, lol.

     

    BTW https://www.daz3d.com/cake-one is on sale ATM and i would like to know what is your impression of his/her hdri DOF environments? Had a look at https://www.daz3d.com/ultrahd-iray-hdri-with-dof--holliday-houses which i liked. Is he/she like https://www.daz3d.com/dimensiontheory quality-wise? Thanks!

    Cake One HDRIs are very high quality in my opinion. I have several of the beach ones. One pretty unique feature of them is that they come with versions that work with DOF. Most HDRIs do not have sharp foregrounds when used with DOF. The Cake One HDRIs have a version that preserve foreground sharpness with the HDRI. They were photographed so that the necessary Render Settings changes work properly with them.

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,243

    barbult said:

    Cake One HDRIs are very high quality in my opinion. I have several of the beach ones. One pretty unique feature of them is that they come with versions that work with DOF. Most HDRIs do not have sharp foregrounds when used with DOF. The Cake One HDRIs have a version that preserve foreground sharpness with the HDRI. They were photographed so that the necessary Render Settings changes work properly with them.

    Thanks a lot, @barbult

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 5,926

    mding said:

    barbult said:

    Cake One HDRIs are very high quality in my opinion. I have several of the beach ones. One pretty unique feature of them is that they come with versions that work with DOF. Most HDRIs do not have sharp foregrounds when used with DOF. The Cake One HDRIs have a version that preserve foreground sharpness with the HDRI. They were photographed so that the necessary Render Settings changes work properly with them.

    Thanks a lot, @barbult

    Sorry, @mding. Yes, I'm referring to the whole lot, as barbult said. I own all except two of the UltraHD sets, and they give great light, the skies are beautiful, and they can be used in all types of situations. 

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,243

    Many thanks, again, @xyer0! I bought not all but a lot of them. 

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,135
    @GhostofMacbeth - Wow. Rogues HD might be the best G9 males in the store. They don't have the feminine or androgynous looks of many/most G9M, and while their musculature is still a bit on the "orcish" side (oversized upper bodies seeming common to G9 in general), the shaping overall seems much improved in your characters. They bring to mind Jason Statham and David Boreanaz in some of the promos. I'll likely buy them later tonight after Daz posts any other sales or offers for the day.

    Also: I've noticed some artists' more recent releases lacking additional interactive and/or 3D-printing license options. When I asked Design Anvil about it in another thread, it was said to an oversight in that case. (Perhaps something has changed in the submission process?) If you want these to have the option for interactive licences (increasing their potential usefulness for some customers and potential revenue for yourself), you might need to contact Daz to have the option added.
  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,332
    I agree, great faces on the new Rogues set. The G9M body is a no for me. I haven't had the desire to see if I can get the G8M body only to work with G9 yet.
  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,754

    doubledeviant said:

    @GhostofMacbeth - Wow. Rogues HD might be the best G9 males in the store. They don't have the feminine or androgynous looks of many/most G9M, and while their musculature is still a bit on the "orcish" side (oversized upper bodies seeming common to G9 in general), the shaping overall seems much improved in your characters. They bring to mind Jason Statham and David Boreanaz in some of the promos. I'll likely buy them later tonight after Daz posts any other sales or offers for the day.

    Also: I've noticed some artists' more recent releases lacking additional interactive and/or 3D-printing license options. When I asked Design Anvil about it in another thread, it was said to an oversight in that case. (Perhaps something has changed in the submission process?) If you want these to have the option for interactive licences (increasing their potential usefulness for some customers and potential revenue for yourself), you might need to contact Daz to have the option added.

    Unless a user plans to use a DAZ product in the creation of an original game (not a mod to an existing game), then they would have no need for an interactive license, so I don't see it being that big of a deal. Also, some PAs might not want their work used in a game.

    I agree about Rogues though, nice character and I do get the Jason Statham vibe also

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 5,926

    I wish dForce Sexy Suspender Outfit had a shirt closed morph. It's a great looking shirt. I guess I could put a t-shirt under it.

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,311

    xyer0 said:

    I wish dForce Sexy Suspender Outfit had a shirt closed morph. It's a great looking shirt. I guess I could put a t-shirt under it.

    It is actually fairly tricky to make a close morph, as you need to have  enough space between the shirt and the buttons to leave room for the other side of the shirt if it can be simulated. Else the user need to push the buttons out after simulation, but that might be acceptable.

    I wonder if the suspenders do simulate, and if not how it looks on girls with a different size breasts. 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,798

    felis said:

    xyer0 said:

    I wish dForce Sexy Suspender Outfit had a shirt closed morph. It's a great looking shirt. I guess I could put a t-shirt under it.

    It is actually fairly tricky to make a close morph, as you need to have  enough space between the shirt and the buttons to leave room for the other side of the shirt if it can be simulated. Else the user need to push the buttons out after simulation, but that might be acceptable.

    I wonder if the suspenders do simulate, and if not how it looks on girls with a different size breasts. 

    My reaction on seeing it was pretty much "Oh for a version with a closed shrt" (as you say that isn't soemthing that could be done with a morph, though if there is enough fabric it might be doable with a dForce Addon with a low expand/contract value).

  • PhatmartinoPhatmartino Posts: 287
    @Hylas Just wanted to thank you for starting this thread. I was just checking it for the 3rd or 4th time today and thought, man I look at this thread multiple times a day and it has been so enjoyable and informative, I should say thanks to you and everyone who makes it some of the most up to date info you can get about the newest products without having to go and look for it separately, if it's even there at all. Love it.
  • GhostofMacbethGhostofMacbeth Posts: 1,627

    doubledeviant said:

    @GhostofMacbeth - Wow. Rogues HD might be the best G9 males in the store. They don't have the feminine or androgynous looks of many/most G9M, and while their musculature is still a bit on the "orcish" side (oversized upper bodies seeming common to G9 in general), the shaping overall seems much improved in your characters. They bring to mind Jason Statham and David Boreanaz in some of the promos. I'll likely buy them later tonight after Daz posts any other sales or offers for the day.

    Also: I've noticed some artists' more recent releases lacking additional interactive and/or 3D-printing license options. When I asked Design Anvil about it in another thread, it was said to an oversight in that case. (Perhaps something has changed in the submission process?) If you want these to have the option for interactive licences (increasing their potential usefulness for some customers and potential revenue for yourself), you might need to contact Daz to have the option added.

    Thank you. I am glad you like him. I did a lot of work on the set.
  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,985

    doubledeviant said:

    @GhostofMacbeth - Wow. Rogues HD might be the best G9 males in the store. They don't have the feminine or androgynous looks of many/most G9M, and while their musculature is still a bit on the "orcish" side (oversized upper bodies seeming common to G9 in general), the shaping overall seems much improved in your characters. They bring to mind Jason Statham and David Boreanaz in some of the promos. I'll likely buy them later tonight after Daz posts any other sales or offers for the day.
     

    I was low-key wondering who the handsome fellow in the Scars promo was. Now we know.

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,135
    edited July 2023

    doubledeviant said:

    Also: I've noticed some artists' more recent releases lacking additional interactive and/or 3D-printing license options. When I asked Design Anvil about it in another thread, it was said to an oversight in that case. (Perhaps something has changed in the submission process?) If you want these to have the option for interactive licences (increasing their potential usefulness for some customers and potential revenue for yourself), you might need to contact Daz to have the option added.

    Unless a user plans to use a DAZ product in the creation of an original game (not a mod to an existing game), then they would have no need for an interactive license, so I don't see it being that big of a deal. Also, some PAs might not want their work used in a game.

    Sure, but I've seen people post about wanting interactive licenses for various products, so there seems to be a market (however small) that can be easily served at no additional cost to the artist. And I myself have passed on some of Sade's releases, because there are often similar products that offer additional licenses.

    I don't actually need interactive licenses, but knowing they're available is a welcome reassurance that the artist doesn't have hangups about licensing that could pose a problem in the (admittedly unlikely) case that I would need such licensing at some future point.

    And I do place some real value on the availability of a 3D-printing license - for example, Summer Sleepwear is quite cute, but it's consistently among the first items that I've cut when trimming a cart - because of the lack of an option for a 3D-printing license. It's not *that* big of a deal breaker to me, but it's been bumped out of the cart often enough that I haven't purchased it yet.

    Anyway, I bought GhostofMacbeth's G8 Orc Horde items recently, and those do have all of the additional license options, so a heads up seemed to be in order in case this wasn't a deliberate decision to exclude the interactive option from Rogues. Changes in licensing options from some artists make me think that something in the submission process could have changed. Might be something as simple as having to specify what used to be assumed, or a check box on a form being moved, or something like that.
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  • GhostofMacbethGhostofMacbeth Posts: 1,627

    Actually, I think it is a glitch. I will check and see

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,311
    edited July 2023

    Richard Haseltine said:

    felis said:

    xyer0 said:

    I wish dForce Sexy Suspender Outfit had a shirt closed morph. It's a great looking shirt. I guess I could put a t-shirt under it.

    It is actually fairly tricky to make a close morph, as you need to have  enough space between the shirt and the buttons to leave room for the other side of the shirt if it can be simulated. Else the user need to push the buttons out after simulation, but that might be acceptable.

    I wonder if the suspenders do simulate, and if not how it looks on girls with a different size breasts. 

    My reaction on seeing it was pretty much "Oh for a version with a closed shrt" (as you say that isn't soemthing that could be done with a morph, though if there is enough fabric it might be doable with a dForce Addon with a low expand/contract value).

    I tried.

    I made a dForce add-on, but after I had applied it, I realised that there is no setting for contraction-expansion for a dForce Add-on.

    You can put a top under the shirt. There are some morphs to loosen it.

    And the suspenders does not simulate. It wasn't my expectation, but I was curious. As they act as conforming, they can look a little weird dependant on character morphs and pose, and there is a risk of clipping with the shirt (or other tops) (which might be fixed with smoothing, and collision with the shirt).

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  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,841

    Today's Steampunk Gas Mask seems to be a near clone of BadKitteh's Ragnarok Mask (which has been around in various forms for a while).

    David Brinnen and Forbidden Whispers have done a fine job of modeling and texturing, but it feels a bit weird for someone to produce such a close copy of a very distinctive work by another artist, let alone one whose product is available in the DAZ store. I wonder how BadKitteh feels about that.

    I'm assuming that BadKitteh's mask is a wholly original work, but perhaps both masks are imitations of some other design, which would make things a little different.

    Thoughts?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,204

    bytescapes said:

    Today's Steampunk Gas Mask seems to be a near clone of BadKitteh's Ragnarok Mask (which has been around in various forms for a while).

    David Brinnen and Forbidden Whispers have done a fine job of modeling and texturing, but it feels a bit weird for someone to produce such a close copy of a very distinctive work by another artist, let alone one whose product is available in the DAZ store. I wonder how BadKitteh feels about that.

    I'm assuming that BadKitteh's mask is a wholly original work, but perhaps both masks are imitations of some other design, which would make things a little different.

    Thoughts?

    well for what it's worth, one can buy real steampunk cosplay masks made of genuine leather of that design and I doubt they were inspired by DAZ content  

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,332
    Closing the shirt on the sexy suspenders outfit would probably remove the sexy
  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,135

    I'm assuming that BadKitteh's mask is a wholly original work, but perhaps both masks are imitations of some other design, which would make things a little different.

    Thoughts?

    From the page for Ragnarok Mask:

    "Ragnarok mask is based on a design of, and licensed by Tom Banwell Leatherworks. Now available for Genesis 3 Female(s) and Genesis 8 Female(s)!!!"

    Beyond that, I'd say they're similar but different enough to be distinct.

    Also, I like having variations of a given concept available. Small details and distinctions can make all the difference sometimes.
  • felisfelis Posts: 4,311

    Timbales said:

    Closing the shirt on the sexy suspenders outfit would probably remove the sexy

    Fun fact. The texture folder is actually called 'Business Woman'. 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,798

    felis said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    felis said:

    xyer0 said:

    I wish dForce Sexy Suspender Outfit had a shirt closed morph. It's a great looking shirt. I guess I could put a t-shirt under it.

    It is actually fairly tricky to make a close morph, as you need to have  enough space between the shirt and the buttons to leave room for the other side of the shirt if it can be simulated. Else the user need to push the buttons out after simulation, but that might be acceptable.

    I wonder if the suspenders do simulate, and if not how it looks on girls with a different size breasts. 

    My reaction on seeing it was pretty much "Oh for a version with a closed shrt" (as you say that isn't soemthing that could be done with a morph, though if there is enough fabric it might be doable with a dForce Addon with a low expand/contract value).

    I tried.

    I made a dForce add-on, but after I had applied it, I realised that there is no setting for contraction-expansion for a dForce Add-on.

    You can put a top under the shirt. There are some morphs to loosen it.

    And the suspenders does not simulate. It wasn't my expectation, but I was curious. As they act as conforming, they can look a little weird dependant on character morphs and pose, and there is a risk of clipping with the shirt (or other tops) (which might be fixed with smoothing, and collision with the shirt).

    Thanks, I hadn't remembered that (assuming it had ever penetrated my brain in the first place). It did occur to me after posting that the waistband on the trousers would, assuming the parts are separate, hold the closing fabric back and cause unsightly distortion even if my suggestion had worked in principle.

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