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I'll add / delusions to your list, since art, like life, consists of choices. But the choice is made before our opinions are given.
I will have to wait a few weeks when I buy it. I guess I'll write a ticket too since that flies in the face of what the promo renders claim.
I really don't think that is the case or even meant like that at all - nobody sat down and said you have to do it exactly like this and no opinions allowed.
If something was worked on before G9 was even out then PAs did the best with what they had, and made promos that in their mind showcased their product.
Now that there's actually some products out people CAN express their opinions - and having a different opinion doesn't mean that your choice was taken away. Its just a different opinion :)
If PAs want to showcase products that look wrong on a figure they can render away, nobody is stopping them - but making it a rule that they have to do it - that's taking away choices.
I think you misinterpreted my post, Mdm Mada. I wasn't making the point you addressed. I apologize for making it ambiguous, but this forum requires it.
As far as rules go, I'd be satisfied with a mere requirement that G9 People & G8 clothing, etc. not be listed under G8 People, but that's another thread.
I had hopes and dreams I could buy a character which would have both a male and female presets etc. Turns out this won't be the case. So, I sort of feel they should have just kept two genders to match the products being put out. At least you could then sort assets by Gen 9 Female and Gen 9 Male int he shop to make things easy to find. When we get a lot more assets in there, finding an item of clothing for a render will mean you'll have to browse both genders, because female items won't fit properly on male etc.
To me, it's a waste of time. I'm souring on it more every day as I try browsing the shop.
Wouldn't have been so bad if clothing/characters were actually unisex. This just feels like an awkward mess, to be honest.
Shouldn't the question be: Schouldn't there be promos showing ALL gender/sex options for products? It's nearly 2023... time to go full in... DAZ did so much for equality of all the genders, why not also the last bit?
It’s definitely not the same weight on disk, or the same amount of clicks until you have the asset adjusted to the figure. Each extra click that is applied goes to the stack of interruptions of the creative flow. It adds double work when converting a garment of the previous generation. Add all the morphs that will never have an equivalent in the other gender and add the others for which you will pay only once. So, I am surprised that there are still doubts about the technical differences between having separated or unified genders.
As for the issue of obligatory renders, it is a question of time and the type of artistic inspiration of the PA. Some are fascinated by rendering hairstyles in both sexes, others will love adjusting to the real world, and others will only be inspired by the gender in which they decided to make their product.
Of course, it is also matter of the customers to buy or not to buy a product on which they want to be 100% sure what it looks like in their favorite morph before making the purchase. If this is so crucial to sales success, the PA that makes extra renders will inform those who don’t, how wonderfully increased their sales by these extra, or if on the other hand, it is a waste of time for the PA and also this removes from the hand of customers a certain amount of products per year that will not be made because time was missed in renders that actually most of customers are not asking for.
Not necessary. While figure fluidity is good for variety in character creation, most people still render one of the two sexes (male or female). So vendors still market that way--male or female, and there is no reason they should change unless they want to. If anyone wants to turn Conan the Barbarian into Dr. Franknfurter from Rocky Horror Picture Show, it's their prerogative, but they may have to do some experimenting because the vendors shouldn't be forced to cover all the weird scenarios in their promos to sell their product.
Unless when in the picture's description or title any further details are given you shouldn't just from the look itself which gender the depicted persons identify as, please. And Frank'n'Furter was an ordinary run-of-the-mill bisexual transvestite with no genderfluidness involved. Long, curly hair as shown by Tim Curry in the movie isn't genderspecific and should, for Generation 9 figures, fit all figures that can be dialed up and as such also shown in the promos with the different possibilities. As is nowadays short hair. And most pieces of clothing.
And BillyBen is correct. There is hair stubble on the M9 skin materials but the promos don't show it.
I bought the Michael 9 base product yesterday because of the $10 off discount; a couple weeks early for a $10 discount. Yes!
And I was disappointed that the one M9 texture issued had face stubble, chest stubble, and probably body stubble elsewhere. I understand that a male has those things but that makes the skin textures male only and deep brunette only. Not that that's bad, but that makes them more limited in use in the same way others, correctly, say freckles on a skin material sets make them more limited in use, which of course it does. I guess cloning brushes are used from real skin photographs to make these skin material sets. I like more generic flexibility to save money but of course erasing all those details out of the skin materials will make them look cartoonish which more customers will complain about, except those doing cartoons. It's always something, but I am satisfied. Anyway, that is out of my system now that I have Victoria 9 & Michael 9. They are both very good.