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And we got one!
I've spent quite a bit (for me) this sale. Had some PA stuff wishlisted for a while that I've not seen better than 50% before. So getting 68% here was a trigger. But I've not spent anything all year until now. I think all sales seem poor when you've been "dribs and drabbing" on every successive sale as mentioned by R&T above.
I've also requested 3 refunds straight away on items within <5 minutes of install. Which I've not done in a couple of years. Just can't face seeing more purchases that don't meet expectations sat there 'just in case I change my mind', and then never used.
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Agreed. I admit I did fall for a "punch sale" for the first time and I did get some great discounts the first two days. But I never got the magical extra discounts on the final day. Granted I didn't buy DAZ+ or any G9 items, (I like separate male and female base figures MUCH better), but I still saw no "prize" in the end as promised. Oh well at least in DAZ land "there's always another sale"
I think the simple summary is that if you are a Daz+ member, can afford to pay a couple dollars each day to maintain your punch card, and can afford to purchase at least three items in each category you are interested in (and your wishlisted items were in those categories) ... then you got some pretty good deals. If you did not meet those demands, the sales were more average.
I am not unhappy with the results I got ... and I already have some ideas lined up for the items I managed to purchase.
I didn't get anything until today (which is the gift card and a few items) since I didn't feel like figuring out how this particular sale works, so I ended up buying all my stuff from the R-store first but now that there was a gift card sale I also got one so... yay for Daz I guess. They got my monies without actually having to part from any discounted products because the sale probably ends tomorrow and I only got punches today... or a punch I guess. I don't know this works.
Actually I'm not sure why it discounted some previous day products after I got the norse furniture set and I'm not actually sure if I would have gotten something else discounted if it was in the cart together with the norse furniture set rather than me buying it separately from the two other purchases (woodland floor shaders and viking warrior makeup).
As someone who consistently purchased over the past several days, the discounts have been really good. I've managed to get a large number of assets and utility products for upwards of 89% off, which is kind of nuts. Thing is, I thought the sale was completely lackluster until I put a bunch of stuff in my cart on a whim that first day, loaded up the cart expecting to cull it down, and then saw how cheap everything was. Definitely confusing.
And now I'm a little confused again. I grabbed 3+ items each from today's categories, Daz Original Savings and Savings on Artist Items. Based on what I'm reading, they should have the same percentage off: whatever I get for Daz+, 60% for having over 3, 10% for buying today, and 40% for the punchcard thing.
But in my cart the Daz Originals items show as 85% off while the artist items show as 78% off. Shouldn't they be the same percentage off since they have the same discount criteria? I don't want to complete the purchase unless I know this is intended and I'm just being dumb at math or something...
I'm somewhat negative on these forums, but I have to say the Black Friday and now Cyber Monday sales have been pretty darn good. I have a huge chunk of my wishlist in the cart right now, and with the gift card sale with NO BUYIN, I'm thinking of plopping down $100, (which I cant afford), and go for the gusto
. For instance, Wonderland by Stonemason Wonderland | Daz 3D $42.95 list is on sale at 40% off for $25.77. I've kept the punchout thing going and can get it for $9.28 with the discounting...it comes to 78% off. THEN, with the gift card discounted at 25%, I can get this for $6.96. That's not a bad thing right there
. I've picked up a few things for real cheap over the last couple of days. Anytime you can get more than 70% off on stuff, its pretty hard to complain. So far I've purchased $415.95 worth for $59.64. I have another $255 in cart for 57.97 before the gift certificate ... so it will end up being 44.74. I'm catching up on stuff I've liked in the past plus my wishlist.
This sale makes no sense to me and my spend has been zero, goose-egg, not one thin dime. That's a bit different from some previous years. For all the people lauding the greatness of this sale scheme, there seem to be a fair number of people who are as non-plussed as I am. As to the effect of we, The Forumites, I think we're a microcosm of the greater Daz market - A representative sample, if you will. Thar be be a range from whales to minnows represented in our ranks. I know this to be true. No reason to think we're an exceptionally different distribution than the greater Daz market. We're just louder about it. And, of course, those of us who are not properly aligned with Daz-Think are told our voice matters not. Well, maybe that's true. I do wonder how much money Daz left on the table by making their sale extra complicated? We'll never really know either way. Just sayin'![devil devil](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/devil_smile.png)
The Cyber Monday sale is working out well for me. I used the gift card sale to start, and to give myself a budget. I have been going through the content of the PA items that have been put in sale. Have filled a sample cart with lots of goodies, including several that were on my wishlist. Am still deleting items from my cart to get down to my budget but know I am getting at least these two.
(1) - Howie Farkes Tropical Botanica Bundle with bigger discount than if it were in fast grab
(2) - Polish Western Train Express Bundle with bigger discount than if it were in fast grab
- will have to see how many other goodies survive the delete process.
Hopefully will stack with my monthly Daz+ coupon for PA stuff.
Not every sale works out for every customer, but Cyber Monday is working for me. Thanks, Daz3D.
As you say we will never know; BUT they may have gotten more with complicated sales than they would have using simpler sales. At any rate they must feel like they are doing better with them because they keep doing them.
You are a Daz+ Member - so the Daz Originals get an extra 30% off - so what shows as 78% for PA items (rounded from an actual 78.4%) goes to 85% for DOs (rounded from 84.88%)
On a more general point, I was delighted to see that no-buy-in GC sale today, just as the Black Friday sales had reduced me to my last $2 store credit! This means I feel duty-bound (
) to fill a cart today with more goodies. Most of my wishist is on sale today, some at better deals than others, so I'm glad I got a sizeable GC.
Aha, that makes sense. Thanks!
Happy to help - I spend almost as much time with a calculator when I'm navigating Daz sales as I do actually looking at the products, so I'm not often stumped by the prices, although occasionally there are some mysterious percentages that I cannot explain (usually in favour of the buyer, so I try not to worry about it, just buy buy buy).
Complicated sales like the one right now can be quite fun to figure out. This weekend reminded me a lot of the DAZ of old, where you would experimentally stuff stuff in your cart to see the discounts skyrocketing. I enjoyed it immensely and cleared out a good deal of my WL.
There is indeed a bug on how discounts are stacking. My Punch card discount is 40% when I buy anything from the store that is not on discount. But when I try to take adventage of the cyber monday discount it seems the punch card discount is dropping to 20%
For exemple, let's add 3 artist items in the cart :
With 40% punch card + 3 items + 10% :
(1-(0.6*0.4*0.9))*100 = 78,4%
With 20% punch card + 3 items + 10% :
(1-(0.8*0.4*0.9))*100 = 71.2%
artist items appears with a 71% discount and Daz items appears with 80% discount. (due to the 30% off with Daz+)
There is indeed a bug.
Hah, just goes to show how different perceptions can be. "Fun" is probably the last word I would use. "Annoying", "distracting", "contrived", "time-wasting", "pointless", "frustrating", "boring" ... and many other words and phrases would spring to ming before "fun". For me, the point of buying assets is to use them in creating my pictures, and creating pictures is a much more preferable use of my time than participating in inane sales promotions. DAZ would do me a great service by making it more simple and less time-consuming to find those assets I need or might find interesting rather than drawing me into a labyrinth of obfuscation which actually turns me off even trying to find something to buy.
Gosh, so sorry for you guys! For me, it's a nice way of distracting myself after work. I get to look at lots of pictures of beautiful 3d assets, sort around and do cart jenga and calculate, and nothing of it really is of the slightest importance. Keeps my mind busy for long enough so that I can go to sleep without it switching back to annoying everyday stuff, y' see.
if it isn't in the list for the day it does not get the entire discount, so its not a bug. There were two categories each day. Today its PA items and DO. If you buy something from either of those categories you will get the full amount off. It isn't all PA items, just those in today's category, or whatever day.
its actually quite simple even though DAZ sales wording is ridiculous. All you have to do is buy "something" for at least $2 per day, then the second day you get 20% off. For the black friday and now cyber monday you get double so its 40% off. In addition, you get another 10% off becasue DAZ is so nice to us. The DAZ Originals give another 30% for DAZ+ members. One day I bought 1 DAZ+ item, a new one, and it kept the "punchcard" going. Even that was discounted a bit, I think 10%.
...I actually paid 23$ not 16$ for the Daz+ annual with my 5$ credit as I didn't make a purchase last Wednesday so I only had one punch to apply. Each punch was worth a 7$ discount at 2X the value, so two would have taken it from 35$ to 21$ and with the 5$ survey credit, down to 16$.
A gotcha though. You have to buy 3 from EACH category. So 3 from DO to get 85% off, and 3 from PA is tyou want those to get 78% off. At either discount its awesome. Make sure you buy s GC . there is no buy-in so its free 5, 15, or 25% off.
This is exactly what I did. I made the test with both today list of items. This is why people are getting 71% instead of 78% for today PA items and 80% instead of 84% for DO.
So... if punches don't take effect until the next day, and there's a "double punch" promo going on today (Monday)... I suppose that means the sale will continue into tomorrow?
As we British say ... "I can't be [bothered]".
What was in your cart? I was getting the expected dicounts when I shopped.
Yeah. It's not too amazing. I don't quite understand the hole punch business myself either.