looking for deer family

davesodaveso Posts: 7,141
edited December 2022 in The Commons

[looking for deer family] whitetail preferrably. Did intenret search and there is a buck at the R place. Might grasb that.  Would like doe and fawn as well. That one place that has huge $ signs has a deer family for $1099, and a bunch of other really nice models for $300, 400, 500, etc. I'm not a huge Hollywood production studio. indecision

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,171

    You probably won't find better (certainly not for the money) than the Hivewire Horse addons at Renderosity.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,774

    It's old so you will probably have to tweak the materials/textures https://www.daz3d.com/silverkey-3d-fawn

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2022

    Gordig said:

    You probably won't find better (certainly not for the money) than the Hivewire Horse addons at Renderosity.

    This. There are some gorgeous deer morphs for the Hivewire Horse on Rendo. Wait for them to go on sale...CWRW goes 50% quite often. You need to buy the base Hivewire Horse and then the deer morph of your preference (there are a few)...and yes they are sold separately. 

     

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141

    MelissaGT said:

    Gordig said:

    You probably won't find better (certainly not for the money) than the Hivewire Horse addons at Renderosity.

    This. There are some gorgeous deer morphs for the Hivewire Horse on Rendo. Wait for them to go on sale...CRCW goes 50% quite often. You need to buy the base Hivewire Horse and then the deer morph of your preference (there are a few)...and yes they are sold separately. 

    I've been eyeballing them for months. They've come and gone and come again on sale dozens of times. The horse and mule deer are on sale now. No doe or fawn to bew had though, at least I have not dound any at rendo or anywhere affordable. thre was a site , i think poser stuff, Lynn was the name, but I know she passed, but the site was around for a bit. Cant remember the name of it. she had a lot of great products. If I remmember right they were in obj format. i hav poser so it would be eay enough to set up and export to DS

     

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,862
    edited December 2022

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Gordig said:

    You probably won't find better (certainly not for the money) than the Hivewire Horse addons at Renderosity.

    This. There are some gorgeous deer morphs for the Hivewire Horse on Rendo. Wait for them to go on sale...CRCW goes 50% quite often. You need to buy the base Hivewire Horse and then the deer morph of your preference (there are a few)...and yes they are sold separately. 

    I've been eyeballing them for months. They've come and gone and come again on sale dozens of times. The horse and mule deer are on sale now. No doe or fawn to bew had though, at least I have not dound any at rendo or anywhere affordable. thre was a site , i think poser stuff, Lynn was the name, but I know she passed, but the site was around for a bit. Cant remember the name of it. she had a lot of great products. If I remmember right they were in obj format. i hav poser so it would be eay enough to set up and export to DS

     

    It's Lynn's Creations you're looking for I think; she had loads of animals in different formats, some poseable, some static. I think they're all rather low-poly and low-res textures though. The website might still be around.

    I'd also encourage you to get the Hivewire horse and add-on morphs, these animals are just gorgeous and very life-like. Does shouldn't be a problem with them, and for a fawn, you could maybe make some morphs of your own? 
    Edit: No, can't find the place anymore, sadly.

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    Is there a huge difference in body type between a doe and a buck, other than the antlers? Yes, it is a shame there are no fawns...but there is the Fallow Deer morph...and those textures you might be able to sub in on a smaller Whitetail to fudge it. 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,171

    MelissaGT said:

    Is there a huge difference in body type between a doe and a buck, other than the antlers? Yes, it is a shame there are no fawns...but there is the Fallow Deer morph...and those textures you might be able to sub in on a smaller Whitetail to fudge it. 

    Also, how different is a fawn to an adult deer as compared to a foal and adult horse? Meaning that you could dial a foal morph into a deer and probably get at least a passable fawn.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141

    MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

    you sure that's not a photoshop job?

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141
    edited December 2022

    difference. I think some for sure. size and bulk, musculature.



     

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,171

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

    you sure that's not a photoshop job?

    It's got her watermark on it, so I think it's safe to assume she knows what it is.

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

    you sure that's not a photoshop job?

    Not sure what you mean...it's the deer model and an HDRI background. Only thing I did in Photoshop is put my watermark on it.  

  • MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

     

    Thats actually a mule deer. Not a white-tail.  Big difference for those nearer to the wilds. cheeky

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Hivewire has a very small team with a bottleneck at the rigging point. And at the moment the concentration appears to be on Dawn 2  and Dusk 2.  The shop is clsed, but the discussion forums are still active. You could post a quirey over there.

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2022

    Saxa -- SD said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

     

    Thats actually a mule deer. Not a white-tail.  Big difference for those nearer to the wilds. cheeky

    I can't say that I have the first clue about the difference, but Hivewire has a Mule Deer model and a Whitetail Deer model...and this is the Whitetail. Oh...I think I know what it is. There are separate material presets for the body and tail and I only applied the body. I assumed it was an heirarchical preset and would update them all. Apparently not. So the tail color is off. It shouldn't have any black on it. And there are also different antlers I forgot to apply. My bad!

    The below is not my render, but this is the Mule model on the Rendo store page - 

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  • MelissaGT said:

     So the tail color is off. It shouldn't have any black on it. And there are also different antlers I forgot to apply. My bad!

    Yup. Those were the 2 main things.  Few other various subtleties but not worth adding. And if you saw them run, OMG what a difference. But you'd need animations for that. 

    Anyway, glad you got.

     

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141

    MelissaGT said:

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

    you sure that's not a photoshop job?

    Not sure what you mean...it's the deer model and an HDRI background. Only thing I did in Photoshop is put my watermark on it.  

    what i meant was it looks like a photo, its that good. Sorry for the vague

     

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2022

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

    you sure that's not a photoshop job?

    Not sure what you mean...it's the deer model and an HDRI background. Only thing I did in Photoshop is put my watermark on it.  

    what i meant was it looks like a photo, its that good. Sorry for the vague

     

    Ah...thanks! Very simple lighting. Just an HDRI from Poly Haven w/ a single spot to create a highlight on the eye. I also use the in-render bloom filter as I feel that adds a level of realism a lot of people leave out of their renders (especially if they don't intend to do any postwork). Spectral rendering. If I were to do any postwork, I would have added a smidge of lens distortion and chromatic aberration as well, but this was just a quick render and upload. The render finished in about 30sec 1500 x 1500 on my 3090. (The thing that took the most time was exporting/importing the Look at my Hair OBJ.)

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141

    MelissaGT said:

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Example of the Whitetail for the Hivewire Horse - 

    you sure that's not a photoshop job?

    Not sure what you mean...it's the deer model and an HDRI background. Only thing I did in Photoshop is put my watermark on it.  

    what i meant was it looks like a photo, its that good. Sorry for the vague

     

    Ah...thanks! Very simple lighting. Just an HDRI from Poly Haven w/ a single spot to create a highlight on the eye. I also use the in-render bloom filter as I feel that adds a level of realism a lot of people leave out of their renders (especially if they don't intend to do any postwork). Spectral rendering. If I were to do any postwork, I would have added a smidge of lens distortion and chromatic aberration as well, but this was just a quick render and upload. The render finished in about 30sec 1500 x 15000 on my 3090. (The thing that took the most time was exporting/importing the Look at my Hair OBJ.)

    thanks for tips/ I bought the entire set I needed for the whitetail. We shall see how it  looks soon :) 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141

    tsroemi said:

    daveso said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Gordig said:

    You probably won't find better (certainly not for the money) than the Hivewire Horse addons at Renderosity.

    This. There are some gorgeous deer morphs for the Hivewire Horse on Rendo. Wait for them to go on sale...CRCW goes 50% quite often. You need to buy the base Hivewire Horse and then the deer morph of your preference (there are a few)...and yes they are sold separately. 

    I've been eyeballing them for months. They've come and gone and come again on sale dozens of times. The horse and mule deer are on sale now. No doe or fawn to bew had though, at least I have not dound any at rendo or anywhere affordable. thre was a site , i think poser stuff, Lynn was the name, but I know she passed, but the site was around for a bit. Cant remember the name of it. she had a lot of great products. If I remmember right they were in obj format. i hav poser so it would be eay enough to set up and export to DS

     

    It's Lynn's Creations you're looking for I think; she had loads of animals in different formats, some poseable, some static. I think they're all rather low-poly and low-res textures though. The website might still be around.

    I'd also encourage you to get the Hivewire horse and add-on morphs, these animals are just gorgeous and very life-like. Does shouldn't be a problem with them, and for a fawn, you could maybe make some morphs of your own? 
    Edit: No, can't find the place anymore, sadly.

    yes, that was it. I did buy quite a bit from her site, but its on some way back CD or something. The site was up for a bit, and if I remember right everything went up for free. I searched too and could not find it.  

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141

    these render way nice, but I dont seem to have any hair hair ... 

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,171

    You could try some SBH.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288
    edited December 2022

    Check CWRW's store. She's released a few fur add-ons for Hivewire animals. Not sure which ones. But there's a good chance that the deer are among them.

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,171
    edited December 2022

    Gordig said:

    You could try some SBH.

    Here's my quick, lazy example:

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,774
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  • cathan01_wwg1wgacathan01_wwg1wga Posts: 361
    edited December 2022

    There is a free fawn morph for the HiveWire mule deer at the HiveWire forums, but you have to be a member to download:

    https://community.hivewire3d.com/resources/little-deer-mn-preset.131/

    I typically add a little of the fawn to make a doe.

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,782

    MelissaGT said:

    Is there a huge difference in body type between a doe and a buck, other than the antlers? Yes, it is a shame there are no fawns...but there is the Fallow Deer morph...and those textures you might be able to sub in on a smaller Whitetail to fudge it. 

    Once upon a time I was engaged to someone who loved beer, and hunting moose (a large relative to elk). The buck tracks differ from a doe. The bucks tracks are wider. He also has a shorter snout and neck. Their head (forehead area) differs between the ears. Juvenile Bucks are often mistaken for adults because the juveniles are larger than an adult female. The doe has a longer body. The bucks is more squarish. The does ears flop whereas a bucks are shorter and stiffer. The fur color differs. Depending on the season males may have white patches on their tails unlike does.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,782
    edited December 2022

    Saxa -- SD said:

    MelissaGT said:

     So the tail color is off. It shouldn't have any black on it. And there are also different antlers I forgot to apply. My bad!

    Yup. Those were the 2 main things.  Few other various subtleties but not worth adding. And if you saw them run, OMG what a difference. But you'd need animations for that. 

    Anyway, glad you got.

     

    The mule deer (usually in Alaska) do have a narrow white tail with a black tip (and larger ears). White tailed deer is all white (never in Alaska) and is smaller than mule but bigger than a Sitka which has a very dark brown/blackish tail (also found in Alaska but more towards south eastern area). Also sometimes the lingo differs. In Newfoundland (North America) we called them Moose while in Britian (Europe) some called them Elks.

    Edit: Googled after posting. Califorina differs.Black tailed western California has a white tipped tail according to this.

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,141

    FSMCDesigns said:

    Daveso, you will need the LAMH preset for the fur https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/cwrw-lamh-red-stag-and-whitetail-deer-presets/148364/

    thanks . will grab that next sale, which is pretty often over there.  I thought LAMH was for 3Delight  

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    It is, but CWRW has been experimenting with later versions. I don't know whether the version linked has the Iray settings or not.

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