Why Daz content creators don't make more of other ethnicity character?
James
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Why Daz content creators don't make more of other ethnicity characters, such as south east asian, mongolian, malaysian, etc?
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Probably lack of resource photos. Do you know of a good source of full body photos of people of those races?
Isn't it better to talk of ethnics, instead of races? Dogs have races, because they've been grown.
"Races" just sounds bad and misleading.
In my country, we have learned to avoid the term "race" for being wrong and insulting.
Just my thought, but I know, what you mean.
"Race" doesn't actually mean anything, but regarding more diverse characters the answer is rather simple: because they're more difficult to create due to lack of resources, and even if you create them they don't sell as well.
In any case, one thing of which DAZ Studio can never be accused is not having enough morph packs to ultimate create pretty much whatever you want. To me, that's the most addictive thing about DS.
WUT?!
Race has nothing to do with it Sales my friend its all about what sells best. . Sex sellst 3d products, I make more money making adult animations than cute children animations. Pretty little white 3d girls sell better than most other ethic groups. So think about it for a moment, If you were a 3d artist making a 3d product for resale would you spend your hours in the day of making stuff that sells the the most, or spend your time making stuff that don't sell as much just because it equitable to other ethic groups? Its all about the money not the race.
So the ethical thing you can do & I suggest if you like to see more ethic groups of characters in the daz store, That you stop buying pretty little white characters and just support the ethic ones to send a message to the daz pa's this is what you want to buy. I don't make adult animation because its fun.. I do it because it sells where silly dancing girls animations don't.
You can do the math.
Moved to the Commons as it's not a question on Daz Studio
I find there are many characters of various ethnicities in the Daz store. Renderosity also has many characters of various ethnicities. Both stores show a preference to female characters - That's well-known and that also boils down to sales. Nevertheless, I think there are plenty of male characters, too. And yes, morph packs greatly increase the possibilities for any given character. With so many characters available, I sometimes wonder how many characters people actually need. I wonder that looking in my own library.
just sayin
https://www.daz3d.com/muyeol-for-genesis-81-male
Yup ... that's what has me hooked too. However, when I do buy characters it is mainly for the skins, not the shapes, and a diverse variety of skins is important.
Why not make your own? Get a character with a skin tone you like and you can adjust it further if needed and morph away! Right now G8 has the most morphs and there are packs for all ethnicities you can mix and match. Also there are apps like FaceGen you can use with good reference photos.
It's not just insulting, but I believe also scientifically incorrect to speak of human 'races', because there are none. All human beings belong to the same subspecies, which is homo sapiens sapiens.
One vendor told me that it was because their European characters sell better than others.
I wanted to say something along those lines. Race is a social-political construct, with 99.9 percent of our DNA identical in all humans. I got enough morphs and skin tones to make the .1% difference.
Edit: changed 1% to .1%
I wonder if OP is actually going to come back and read this thread...
Yes, I agree with that too.. I've gotten to the point where I can morph up anything that I like with the tools in DAZ Studio, but a nice, realistic skin to match it is slightly harder to come across. When I see a good one, I snag it for the skin, not the actual character.
...I feel that with G3 and particularly G8, a fair amount of (to use a fairly well worn term) ethnic diversity in characters (many which I added to my library) has been released compared to in the past.
@all
First, my question derives from a user point of view and not a content creator. I was wondering.
With the ability/skill of some creators, even up to creating (almost) a resemblance of some movie actors/actresses, I think they can do it, if they want to, why didn't they create more of different ethnicities?
I just want to hear this forum opinions or perhaps some experiences.
Second, for anyone who offended by the term race and prefer the term etnicity, no problem. Etnicity it is.
Third, why I don't make my own with morphs. I'm not good at it. I tried. I tried sculpting too. I ended up spend many weeks, trying to. Although I ended with somehting, but I didn't get the result I desired.
Thus, instead of making what I want to make, I ended up tweaking those.
Facegen, I've tried it. The result wasn't at the level I wanted it.
With all said, in general don't need to get too serious guys.
I don't know... there seem to be quite a few PAs who mostly make Asian female characters, and there are others who specialize in specific ethinicites like Sabsil, who used to sell at both DAZ and Renderostity but now sells via their own store. Ultimately, though, it comes down to a split between what the PAs enjoy making and what sells, with the latter being also dependent in no small part on where DAZ figures themselves sell. Back in the old days, Poser's Mikki series of Asian female base figures was consistantly one of their top sellers, at leas in part due to a huge market based in Asia and especially Japan. However, when the big Poser/DAZ rift occured with Genesis, Poser's multi-lingual support's inclusion of a native Japanese version language pulled a lot of that market away (though Aiko 3 and Hiro 3 continued to be major players in that market for many years.) As it is, every new full generation of DAZ base figures since 6 has included a new variant on Mei Lin, Monique, Darius and Lee, while vendors like Sickleyield make morph packs that cover a wide variety of ethnicities, and I know SY has commented on the major discrencies in sales between the different groups.
I love Facegen create a lot of my owncharacters thanks to that plus I don't know about the other related programs but Facegen creates matching body skin textures. Plus using Lovechild to combine two faces to create a third is cool there is also a sight called generated photos that has faces created like this so they are not real people and again using Facegen it'll create the skin body texture oh it has face morphing of various races
other than the white females isn't Japanese style the most popular in looks, culture, clothing, tv/film/art/pinup/photography
As someone who's not a 3D content creator either, I'm far from it and the most I do is dial spin until I find what I like, this thread is interesting to read. For people who depend on PA's for creating a good base to use it can be super frustrating when what you're looking for still isn't out there but sometimes mixing and matching various morphs from different vendors gets me better results than waiting for the perfect product that'll probably never be released. At least with g8/8.1 there's so many enthnic morphs and morph packs with facial morphs that can get you what you want eventually. But as others have said, they know that 20'ish white female characters sell really well and that's what's generating the money so that's what the majority of the marketed products are going to be. G8 saw some amazing asian female characters from bluejaunte, Mousso, hid3d, daz released ML8, Alawa and Kayo. There's also an artist DaYin from that other... other store who's faces are really amazing.
G9 isn't out long enough to really have a built up volume of ethnic morphs library like g8 but hid3d's Nao was my starting point for a character I initially worked on trying to duplicate a custom character I made on G8. I actually like the results I got with the g9 attempt way more than I did with my custom g8 character, so much so that I was thinking of redoing a lot of renders and replacing them with the g9 one.
This is the most accurate comment about race that I've ever seen in online discussions...
That's because the majority of people into this hobby are whites, specifically in the west... That's why there aren't any non-white majorities with this hobby, people of colour are unfortunately in the minority.
Daz themselves have been doing pretty well with balancing the market demand for white characters while providing non-white representation, (Although I'd still prefer a 50:50 ratio) we would do well to have more people of colour that are PAs as that will help immeasurably for representation with this hobby of ours.
In short, it's mostly about numbers, as there are far too few PAs that are people of colour as well as far too few people of colour into this hobby; in the west that is.
By the same token, it doesn't look like English is the OP's first language, so it might just have been a poor choice of words and I'm sure was made completely innocently. We shouldn't beat them up over it.
Sorry my mistake, but I meant it as a general statement independent of this thread... as you can't even get a civilised discussion about race in most threads/forums out there!
This does not account for the lack of diverse nude photo resources for PAs to use.
When I did my Crones for Etta (G8), I did various ethnicities.