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Yes, but at the time I made that post, G3 had been out a year without a GenX update. Very few updates had been posted about progress. So in the absense of these updates and the uncertainty of when or even IF we'd ever see a G3 version; it is logical for people to look at alteratives they probably would not otherwise. The person who made the app on DA did so because he was tired of waiting on the G3 version. He created his version for himself and then decided to release it. I can't blame him. He also released his item on DA so he would have full control over it, and by selling directly, he got a larger percentage of the sale, where Daz takes half of the money on every sale for themselves (I find that kind of crazy, "industry standard," LOL.) Again, since he's not on Daz, I can't blame him for that. But it would have been nice if he didn't ask $25, that was the deal breaker to me. If he had asked $15, I would have bought it without hesitation.
Well, now that GenX for G3 has finally arrived, all that becomes moot. Which is fine, because I nearly broke down and bought that alternative. So I am thrilled to see GenX for G3 get released.
Extra Tools (wip!)
Some tools for extra tweaks for converted products.
Daz Studio Rigging with Templates
Ok. This is for new cloth...but some process can be useful for tweak non-easy conversion for clothes
Color Picker for Daz Studio
Old Hair, old material etc can need some color tweaking. Also this looks great to do new color presets for hair to enhance variety. Believe me, one pick is very better than three frustrating typing of numbers.
Content Package Assist
A part of conversions will produce new files. So, it is not bad idea package this as an addon for back-up.
Thumbnail Mastery
File Reference Editor
Content Gatherer
DSON Editor
GiGi_7 - thank you for the incredible effort you put into this - and for sharing it!
The number of "fix" products needed to make things work with DAZ3D content is absolutely abusrd. DAZ should have only 1 human figure that is reshapable (reshapable into every figure they've created) - and ALL the skins, hair, clothes, etc. should work on it without converting or fixing anything. Shaders/textures should work automatically in every render engine. Blah blah blah - yah I know all the arguments against this.
I gave up a year or two ago trying to keep up with all this confusion and frustration - and as a result, I just don't buy most of the new content DAZ releases. It's supposed to be fun, not agony.
Currently working in a PDF.
Because this will show DAZ and non-DAZ information I would like to know which place is the appropriate to upload the pdf. Share GC?
Great info, and such a presentation, thank you =)
In the Mil3 to G3 section you might want to change it to show that mil 3 skins can be placed directly onto G3 using Caymen's new product http://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-3-special-edition-victoria-3
Updated
Great info, and such a presentation, thank you =)
Body Improvements
Genesis 1
1.- Mouth
Dental Plan for Genesis
2.- Muscles
Genesis Evolution: Muscularity
Genesis Alive
Vascularity HD for Genesis
3.- Feminine
Glute and Breast Movement for Genesis
4.- Shape
Shape Shift for Genesis
Belly Control for Genesis
Face Weight For Genesis
5.- Skin
Human Essentials for Iray
G1/G2F/G2M/G3F
JM HumanShader for Iray
V4/M4/G1/G2/G3
N.G.S. Anagenessis 2 - Revolution
6.- Age
Aging Morphs For Genesis
Aging Details HD for Genesis Aging Morphs
Growing Up Bundle
7.- Hands & Feet Control
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Genesis 2
1.- Mouth
2.- Muscles
3.- Feminine
4.- Shape
5.- Skin
Iray Smart Converter and Advanced Skin Managers for Genesis 2
6.- Age
7.- Hands & Feet Control
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Genesis 3
1.- Mouth
2.- Muscles
Musculature HD Morphs for Genesis 3 Female(s)
Musculature HD Morphs for Genesis 3 Male(s)
MASSIVE Morphs for Genesis 3 Male(s)
Add Some Veins HD for Genesis 3
3.- Feminine
Breast Control for Genesis 3 Female(s)
Glute Control for Genesis 3 Female(s)
4.- Shape
Shape Shift for Genesis 3 Bundle
Shape Shift for Genesis 3 Female(s)
No Big
5.- Skin
Skin Blender
Growing Up Skin Merchant Resource for Genesis 3 Female(s)
Growing Up Skin Merchant Resource for Genesis 3 Male(s)
Growing Up Skin Merchant Resource for Genesis 3 Female(s) Adult Add-on
Growing Up Skin Merchant Resource for Genesis 3 Male(s) Adult Add-on
Growing Up Skin Merchant Resource Bundle for Genesis 3
Beautiful Skin Genesis 3 Bundle
Iray Smart Converter and Advanced Skin Managers for Genesis 3
HumanReshade for Genesis 3
N.G.S. Anagenessis for Genesis 3
6.- Age
Aging Morphs
Aging Morphs 3 Merchant Resource for Genesis 3 Female(s)
Aging Morphs 3 Merchant Resource for Genesis 3 Male(s)
Aging Morphs 3 for Genesis 3 Bundle
Growing Up
Growing Up for Genesis 3 Female(s)
7.- Hands & Feet Control
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Genesis 8
1.- Mouth
2.- Muscles
Musculature HD Morphs for Genesis 8 Female(s)
Musculature HD Morphs for Genesis 8 Male(s)
MASSIVE Morphs for Genesis 8 Male
Add Some Veins HD for Genesis 8
Easy Flex - Muscularity Morphs for Genesis 8 Female and Merchant Resource
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3.- Feminine
Glute and Breast Control Genesis 8 Female(s)
Breast Control Genesis 8 Female(s) Merchant Resource
Glute Control for Genesis 8 Female(s) Merchant Resource
4.- Shape
Shape Shift for Genesis 8 Bundle
Shape Shift for Genesis 8 Female(s) Merchant Resource
SY Big ???
5.- Skin
Beautiful Skin Genesis 8 Bundle
6.- Age
Aging Morphs
Aging Morphs for Genesis 8 Female(s)
Aging Morphs for Genesis 8 Male(s)
Aging Morphs for Genesis 8 Bundle
Growing Up for Genesis 8 Female(s)
Easy Shape Master
7.- Hands & Feet Control
8.- Face
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Converting to Genesis 8
G3 to G8
G3F to G8F
Shape:
Morphs from G3 to G8
Associated shapes: ???
Clone: In Genesis 8 Starter Essential (Free with DS4)
Clothes:
Using Autofit
Using dforce
Not mandatory but can be helpful
Hair: Using Autofit
Shoes/Heels: Using Autofit
Morphs:
Morphs from G3 to G8
Genesis3 to Gen8 morph converter 1.1 (in another site)
Expressions:
UVs:
Skins:
G8F can use G3F skins directly
Poses:
Genesis 3 to Genesis 8 Pose Converter
Batch Converter + Metadata
Bone Doctor Pose Control
Poses Relaxing + convertion
Pose Blender
Pose Mixing
Animation:
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G2 to G8
G2F to G8F
Shape:
Associated shapes: ???
Clone: In Genesis 8 Starter Essential (Free with DS4)
Clothes:
Using Autofit
Using dforce
Not mandatory, but helpful
Hair:
Shoes/Heels:
Morphs:
Expressions:
UVs-alternative:
Legacy UVs for Genesis 8: Victoria 6
Skins:
Poses:
Animation:
Return to Index
G1 to G8
Shape:
Associated shapes: ???
Clone: In Genesis 8 Starter Essential (Free with DS4)
Clothes:
Using Autofit
Using dforce
Not mandatory, but helpful
Hair:
Shoes/Heels:
Morphs:
Expressions:
UVs-alternative:
Legacy UVs for Genesis 8: Victoria 5
Legacy UVs for Genesis 8: Genesis 2 Male, Michael 5 and Michael 6
Skins:
Poses:
Animation:
Return to Index
Mil4 to G8
V4 to G8F
Shape:
Associated shapes: ???
Clone:
Clothes:
Hair:
Shoes/Heels:
Morphs:
Expressions:
UVs-alternative:
Legacy UVs for Genesis 8: Victoria 4
Legacy UVs for Genesis 8: Michael 4
Skins:
Poses:
Animation:
Return to Index
Mil3 to G8
V3 to G8F
Shape:
Associated shapes: ???
Clone:
Clothes:
Hair:
Shoes/Heels:
Morphs:
Expressions:
UVs-alternative:
Skins:
Poses:
Animation:
Return to Index
G8F to G8M / G8M to G8F
Shape:
Associated shapes: ???
Clone:
Clothes:
Hair:
Shoes/Heels:
Morphs:
Expressions:
UVs-alternative:
Skins:
Poses:
Animation:
Return to Index
G8 to G3
Poses:
Bone Doctor Pose Control
What a lot of work, GiGi_7. I'm very impressed! Thank you so much for putting all this information in one place.
I was just about to ask if you were going to do some sort of PDF. Thanks so much for this.
I can't see why you can't link it in here, post it in deviantART, Sharecg, even Rendo. I'm sure you will provide a link as soon as you do. For now, I think I will bookmark this as a favorite and print later.
I would be willing to donate a little something for all this effort. This will help all of us immensely. :)
PDF in process.
Maybe you could add
G3F G8F pose adjust scripts - Legs, Arms and Full
https://www.sharecg.com/v/88560/ or https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/g3-g8-pose-adjust-scripts/77430
to the Poses part of this message: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/2562346/#Comment_2562346
Very nice of you to make those product category summaries for the different generations.
First thing, Great Post! There are some great things that I would like to use up and down. But It would be great if someone could come up with a v4 and M4 Clown that doesn't have a ridge that the chest line.
I think you missed, Batch Convert Gen4 Poses to .DUF Format. It is the first step in converting poses from Gen4 to Gen5-8. you have to get them in the DUF format first, according to Draagonstorm. It converts the V4-M4-K4 Poser PZ2 files and convert them to DUF format. The issue: it won't convert hands or expressions; nor will it convert Partial poses and leaves the rest of the body Zeroed, which kind of sucks.
This issue could be easy to clean up, if someone has the source code. Change it from doing "Zero Pose -> Zero Figure Pose" to "Clear Animation -> Clear Figure Pose", then in the save section of the scrip, Do an "Uncheck -> Uncheck All" and then a "Check -> Check all Modified". Then only those thing which are not Zero will be saved, which insure it will not mess with things it shouldn't.
If you do a test, you will find that with the Zero Pose, there are values that are modified, but the Clear Animation, actually places zeros in all values. Check all Modified finds any value that is not Zero and places a check there. Actually you could do the whole thing and never enter DAZ Studio at all, You can read the Poser PZ2 file and Write a DUF, you just need to write it out in the correct format. You could also do the change Left and Right hands and I think you could convert expressions which do not have special morphs.
But I digress, back to more about your issue,
There is also a Script set, which seems to go back to Generation 3. and one of the examples is converting an A3 pose. The series of scripts is called Updated: Daz Studio Posing Scripts (now for G3F) - Script. I have them, but I have not tried them. I believe these would be manual and not as fast as DraagonStorm's batch Converters.
For M4 to G1M, G2M, G3M. Once you have the DUF file, you would only need to look for those spots which need a fix, in each of the files, take that the number, do the math and place the corrected number back. Again this could be done outside of DAZ Studio, if the files are not compressed. if the files are compressed then, it would have to be done inside DAZ Studio.
I believe that some of product to convert contains a .DUF converter or maybe pose builder...but I'm not sure about this. I need to see it. In any case, effectively Batch Convert Gen4 Poses must be included. Thanks for advice.
I believe that I have them too. Thanks for links, I didn't have the sharecg's link.
Probably creating templates with pose master it can be addressed. Of course, it isn't free but time saving.
Thanks, I had not seen this.
Hair Improvements
Universal Hair Shader for Iray
@GiGi_7 !!
Oh my god!
THANKS for all this research work !
Some process cost effectively less money than purchasing seperate things, that's a thing who, us, all at DAZ3D shop must know or must apply at least !