Daz Studio Pro BETA - version 4.9.0.21!
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And that's the problem, Pendraia. This whole thread is almost entirely made of people saying "that new way of doing things, we don't like it. Adress known problems first!" and the Daz team is busy trying to forcefully sell us the thing no matter what. This cannot end well.
Addendum: I just thought about something, while reloading the DAZ3D homepage. You have that quote, up there:
“...accurate character tolerances made Daz a go-to solution on CAPTAIN AMERICA, THOR, and IRON MAN.” - RON MENDELL
Hey, Daz people? When you're working with Hollywood people and such, if you do as this quote suggests, I wonder if you're being as rigid as with your regular punters, that is, us. Somehow, I doubt it a bit.
Its combining ALL of your characters for ALL of your figures together? I have alot of characters. That would be tedious to search through. Can you filter that list?
Same computer. If this is true, then I'll just scratch DAZ and use Poser and Carrara.
After I reimported my metadata, more showed up. Not all. But some.
Although I'm trying to figure out how on earth the DAZ Monstrostries: Infernal Behemoth got categorized as " Figures/People/Female/FantasySciFi" to show up in my Smart Content as that. If i change it to creatures/fantasy/land, and then 'export user data'...the category gets changed, but it does NOT show up in Smart Content under that section.
See, that sort of mistake is what I DON'T make when I am organizing the files myself. Which is why Smart Content is not going to work for me. At all.
Yes, there's a textbox at the top of smart content that allows search, both in 4.8 and in 4.9. The 4.9 search is supposedly superior to the 4.8 one.
Having finished reading the thread I'm still confused about what is the best way to go...I'm busy at the moment writing reports for school so I think I will just wait and see. After all at the moment it is still a beta. Like many people here I'm not fond of DRM and feel the only thing it ever accomplishes is to punish the people who actually buy products (like myself).
I like using categories (the smart content tab not so much) especially as I now have it arranged to my liking.
I feel for the vendors who believe that they are losing sales thru' piracy but I'm not sure that this is really the case. I'm not sure that I believe that the people downloading at torrent sites would ever actually buy products from a store but can see how vendors might think that it does cost them sales. Recent articles that I've seen and read seem to point to pirates not buying content also...some of these have already been linked to.
I know and can say though, that I have tested products for some vendors and still buy their products simply because I want to support that vendor and like their products and their attitudes towards their customers. So attitudes of vendors towards customers do count and can affect their sales.
I worry that so many companies these days only look at the bottom line and not at the ripples that their actions cause. These days I like to buy from companies that I believe have an ethical base and a loyalty to their customers especially when it is discretionary spending for hobbies.
Will I be downloading DS4.9? I don't know...I think I'll wait and see what happens before getting too concerned about it though. After all it's a beta at this moment no one is forcing me to use it. So I will let the dust settle and take it from there. I am someone who loves using Daz Studio and I have been using it since 2005...so in the meantime I will be reading these forums with a view to finding out more about this latest version of DS and how the users who download and use it find their experience.
Where are you changing it to "creatures..."? In the metadata? (sorry, very confused here)...
I'm not sure if my post addressing one specific example didn't actually post or got removed. On the chance that it didn't post I'll redo:
A lot of boots for G3F are being built by the PAs as geografts. This means that I can not add translucency or transparency (for example fretwork opacity) to the boots' texture because there is no leg to show under the boot. So I ended up hand editing a copy of the data files to remove the geograft.
Is there a way, with the new DRM'd content, to
1) edit the boots in DS using some part of the toolset to remove the geograft, and then
2) save the updated, geograftless boots to my library as wearables.
You can, to the best of my knowledge, uninstall the Connect version and install from DIM (or manually) - it certainly worked with a product I tried, though my bandwidth cap is limiting my ability to test at length.
The DAZ Studio Improvement program is opt in, but it isn't a survey - it's the thing they added several versions ago (might have been 4.5 or 4.6) that sends anonymised usage data. If you can't recall whether you opted in or not check Edit>Preferences and look under Feedback in the General tab.
Have you checked if the essentials are still in the "installed" section of DIM? As DAZ Connect and DIM probably won't talk to each other, and DAZ Connect doesn't download ZIPS, DIM will probably still have its "I downloaded this already" files in the download directory.
I don't trust the claim it's anonymised; this isn't against Daz, it's just a general thing; when one sees reports of what companies do without telling their customers (and non-customers), it means the good/better guys can tarred with the same brush. It's tough to counteract.
You can tame geoGrafting, if not completely remove it (the ability to suspend GeoGrafting would be a faeture request, I keep meaning to make it). Use the Geometry Editor tool to select (at least) one polygon you don't mind hiding on the wearer, right-click, Polygon Assignment, Set Auto Hide Faces for Fitted Figure..., pick the boots in the dialogue, fit the boots to None, fit them back to the figure. The change should save with your scene.
Yes, it is not going to have data from everyone - but it is probably going to be a fairly broad sample of users.
Well, but it's not something new. If you check 4.8 (Edit-->Preferences-->General), you'll find the setting there as well.
I know it's there and didn't join for the reason stated. I was tempted, which is actually an indication of my positive opinion of Daz, and how I feel about them. I'm just not trusting.
For those worried that installing through DAZ Connect will somehow kill existing files - no, it doesn't.
I have tested this with several of my DIM-downloaded items. What happens is that DC downloads an additional copy of the data to the DC-directory (that would be the top directory on your Content directory manager).
To avoid that I have a big mess by the end of the day, here's what I did: I added a new directory to the Content Directory Manager, and moved it to the top of the listing. This will automatically make DAz Connect look & store there.
Now, if you download (re-download something through DC, it will leave everything else untouched. As you can see, after downloading through DC, my DIM still has the file available for download, so I can properly install it with DIM as unencrypted files, too.
Also, files that I have already installed through DIM remain untouched by DC.
EDIT: This still needs a lot of "getting used to". I am missing the simple sorting functions of DIM, but I am glad that at least Smart Content still uses my own created categories to show me, so I can still find my sorted content easily.
I have a concern with DRM.
Currently a family member logs onto my PC and uses my copy of Daz Studio along with my content.
I realise that this is not allowed under the EULA but you don't currently prevent it so it happens.
Once the content becomes encrypted she would need her own account and be allowed to use only the content that she has purchased, is this correct?
She has no problem with the idea of setting up her own account and paying for her own content but she is not very savvy with e-commerce so perhaps a Daz staffer could walk her through this and work out a way that a 7 year old can pay for her content.
She is also concerned that if Daz Studio becomes abandon ware she will be left with unusable encrypted content.
I know that it has been stated that in that situation Daz would issue a means of unlocking said content but we have taught her not to trust what strangers on the internet say to her.
I would suggest discussing this with Sales support.
'm coming from the standpoint that
1. Poser content for use with only Poser would not be installed with Daz Connect, It would not be encrypted, and there's no point (or sense) in managing one program's files from anoher. You use zips or DIM.
2. Poser content used in both would still not be encyrpted, and would be provided in zip/DIM format, so it would be up to the user whether or not to use Daz Connect. Each would have its advantages.
If you did use Daz Connect, and assuming you could drag-and-drop, as long as you kept the Poser-specific sub-folders (Character, Pose, Props, etc.), it would still work in Poser, and would be the mechanical equivalent to moving the files using the OS. The difference is that if you move the files with Connect, Connect will know about it. If you move them in the OS, it'll break file references, and then Connect will not be able to maintain the files.
So again, I don't see any reason Connect could not be used to maintain Poser files for use with both Poser and D|S. Of course, all of this is conjecture. What I describe above doesn't exist, and may never.
Sorry Richard I was being a bit flippant, I only keep Daz Studio on my PC because my granddaughter loves playing with it.
Her favourite character is a gorilla (sometimes dressed as a cop) riding a tricycle over her hand drawn backgrounds which always contain a house and at least one tree. LOL
We will be sticking with 4.8 and buying no new content from Daz.
It is a shame to see so many of your long term customers so upset about the changes being forced on them.
I do appreciate having the use of the program and a lot of content for free but as I see it Hexagon stopped at 2.5 and Studio stopped at 4.8.
So it's goodbye from me and Olivia.
This is how I work, too. It's my understanding that like DIM, Connect will only ever use a single runtime. Which makes it -- like DIM -- totally useless for me. To be truly useful for as many use cases as possible, Connect needs to work with all the runtimes you might have.
Thank you Richard! That really does help tame the geograft.
I guess from the avoidance answering question 2 that the answer will be 'no'. Although, saving the boots as a scene subset could work and allow them to be imported into other scenes?
This is, almost literally, being worked on right now so hopefully something will appear very soon.
I perfect miss ,richard answer sorry.
I felt ,it simply add the selected face to current hidden face, then not try it. now understand it work so.
(but the problem for me now,, (even though I could remove geo grafted area, I used editor easy,, ) those geo grafted shoes are designed to hide meshes
then .after I remove it,, it seems need more and more tweaking to usable at start point , ><; though it is not topic of here,,, )
Connect will install to the first listed DS format content directory for now (there is going to be a more flexible option), but it will happily read from any DS format content directory if you change the order in the Content Directory Manager between installs. What I don't know is what will happen if a product installed in a lower directory is updated - whether the files will go theer or will go to the current target directory.
I'm gettng the distinct impression that 4.9 will have to, hopefully, go through a lot more beta iterations before public release, so I shall look at the threads with interest. I just hope and pray that if Daz Connect is something we HAVE to use that it is 101% working properly before that happens. Apologies for coming over like a screaming luddite before, it's just that we often feel like we're never consulted about all these big changes and they're just suddenly dropped on us. Most of the negative feedback is a kneejerk reaction to this rather than the changes themselves. If you were to say "We're thinking of doing this with 4.9, what do you think!?", I think it would get a much better reaction than a sudden Beta thread and "This is what we're going to do, like it or lump it!" which is how, sadly, things have been coming across.
CHEERS!
Except DIM does use several runtimes. The downloads all go to one place, but I can tell it to install a given product (or selected batch of products) to any of the runtime directories I already have set up.
Though it does appear that Daz Connect will not have that flexibility (or it does, but it's currently kinda tricky to get it to work)
Since D|S allows multiple runtime folders, Connect really needs to work with all of them simultaneously. This means giving the option to install into an arbitrary runtime, as well as managing the content in all the registered runtimes. At one time, Daz understood the notion and importance of having muliple runtimes, but now that flexibility is being disregarded.