On the subject of A.T.G.A.T.T. and lack of passenger pegs on bikes...
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Sooo, I see we have a new bike and a new outfit for the gals to ride said bike. Looks very nice BTW!
RANT ON
While I can appreciate artistic license, I have to wonder if some you guys even understand the principles of why people wear leathers/protective gear on bikes?
In the sport/touring bike world (and the biking world in general), we have an acronym, A.T.G.A.T.T., which stands for All The Gear All The Time. Looking pretty on a bike in a skimpy outfit is all fine and good, until the first time you take a spill at speed and the asphalt peels off your skin...
Sure, for those of us that are bothered by such things, we can sneak a full bodysuit underneath other less practical outfits, but if you are trying to convey a protective suit, it should cover most if not all of the skin on your limbs and torso.
And spiked heels? C'mon guys! At least go with 'connected/reinforced/thicker' heels or wedges if you are doing that. We have plenty of spiked heel boots in the Daz library already! Better yet, shorter heels as well. Having your feet at full extension al limits your control of the bike a bit with your feet. Those spiked heels will snap off in a millisecond the first time you put your feet down to the pavement to stabilize your bike while moving if you aren't careful...
I don't think we have any decent racer boots in the Daz library to begin with. Lots of color options with those, and lots of opportunities for multicolored outfits too!
I've had the pleasure of riding with a number of gals on a few group rides, and there are some really cute protective shoes that do have a little bit of a heel extension on them, and they look very stylish to boot. Same for biking clothes in general. And the tight leather pants really do flatter a gal too!
Sure there are gals out there that opt to not wear protective gear, but serious biker gals just roll their eyes when they see that.
As for those that decide to not wear helmets, a paramedic once told me "You know what we call bikers without helmets? Potential organ donors". Because when they fly off the bike and the skull is smashed, well the organs are nicely protected inside the ribcage of the now dead rider. But I dgress...
Another pet peeve of mine is the lack of passenger pegs on a few of the Daz bikes, even on bikes that have provided a Pillion for your passenger. 2 up riding happens, even on consumer sport bikes! For pure racers, yeah those bikes aren't set up or have these, but most of your Kawi Ninjas, Honda CBRs, etc, have passenger pegs for a reason.
It's fun to take your girlfriend or SO out for a ride on a sport bike. Quite exhilarating, actually due to the rapid acceleration and leaning into corners at speed! Of course, it's more fun if she also rides and has her own bike, but yeah, y'all are missing out on market opportunities for your bike models by not providing for passengers!
Attached are a few pics showing how most of the more serious gals I've seen on sport bikes dress in the real world. Sure, you have your 'beach bunnies' as well, but any gal that is serious about biking is also serious about her riding gear.
Also, note that all four bikes have passenger pegs... Even the Kawi EX-250 Powerpuff Bike has pegs! Who says bikes can't be girly? While I don't necessarily approve of the 4th gal's choice of boot, you can't help but to appreciate the curves...
I also attached a few boots to give y'all some ideas. I've seen a number of gals wearing the Alpinestars (3rd set of boots)...
And just for fun...
https://rideapart.com/articles/10-reasons-to-date-a-woman-who-rides-a-motorcycle
RANT OFF
Carry on!
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All too true.. Way back in the day whne I was biking (and that's near on 50 years ago) I always wore a leather jacket, heavy enginners boots, gloves or gauntlets and the best helmet I could afford. I even on one.. You can't have too much protection..
My chief rant is that there are very few affordable GOOD models of bikes of the era I was biking in. Would die for a really good Triumph T100/5TA or a BSA A7..
I too agree with you.
ooh! an Ariel Arrow... now its been a way long tme since I've seen one of those!
That was our hang out of choice, back in the day. You could see some nice bikes there at times. One regular used to come in on a Vincent black Shadow. He gave me a ride on it one day, Niiiice bike.
Had a nice roundabout just the right distance up the road for the record on the juke box challenge. I was always a popular passenger for a two up challenge, as I as small and light weight. 5ft nothing Tall I am and back then I only wiehged in at 7½ stone (105 lbs for you americans)
Our hangout was mainly the local garage and repair shop (owned by one of my mates dad) - We'd buy up old bikes, fix 'em up to ride, eventually flogging them on to buy more old bikes and start the whole process again..
A Shadow? just a "nice bike"?
Understatement, for sure.. I had custody of a '55 Shadow for one whole year, and loved it, it could be a real b*gger to start, but man, it was a truly great ride.. The torque was amazing, far more than anything I had at the time, including my bobbed 1936 Harley ULH flathead, and that was 80 cubic inches...
Had some interesting bikes pass through our hands, a Panther big single, Royal Enfield Super Meteor and an Interceptor, and a slew of 250 BSA singles... Some eraly Jap stuff, too, usualyy acquired cheap after they blew up...
I can remember Our Dad getting a wee bit miffed when his cold frames got filled up with bits of bikes when he wasn't using them, ie during the summer, My elder brother was a bit like you with old bikes. I think he thought the group I hung out with were a bit boring as they all had newer bikes, Triumphs mostly and, as I said in another thread, one guy had built himself a Triton.
Here you go!
All I will say about the "advertising copy" is that you're likely to find some magazines in the real world with models even more scantily clad draped over the bikes. As for footpegs or lack thereof, I'm personally reluctant to let anyone ride with me on a lightweight sport bike; sport trike or heavier bike, I'd be willing to do it.
Round here it's beach land, so all summer you see the geniuses with the muscle shirts and the girlfriend with the shorts and sandals riding in the back flying by at 90 and not a care in the world.
The best one was the couple that past me on the causeway, (not going too fast)... The girl was wearing a bathing suit and flip flops... Well, the after few moments just the bathing suit... The fishes got to keep the flip flops.
I can't imagine how painful falling at speed on the metal grating would be in a bathing suit... I took a spill in the rain once on the Queens-Borough bridge fully clothed, leather jacket and boots... I was going maybe 15-20 mph and the bike took most of the fall... Still I felt like I was beaten with a million tiny ball peen hammers, because of those damn little nubs on the steel.
Its funny, you can tell if someone is a halfway serious rider, by how much they cringe when they see someone go by dressed for the beach or a picnic.
I"ve been tweaking the Yamaki Fusion, in order to make it more street friendly. I added mirrors, rounded the tires, reduced the width a bit, and made some tweaks to the front cowling. Oh, and gave it some new coloring... It's still a work in progress.
The rear wheel has no suspension to speak of, but I can't fix that easily... and yeah, I haven't cobbled together any passenger pegs for it as of yet. Regardless, I think it's a pretty sweet looking bike.
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I can't quite tell if these are renders or real (they look like renders to me). Quite nice!
Thanks! those are renders in Studio , using the old De Espona Vincent mesh...Nice work on the Fusion tweaks!
Agree with the rant. My girlfriend would never be caught dead riding in a skimpy outfit like that. We actually went down a couple of times, once on my Sporty and once on my Shovel-Pan. Good Levis and Leather saved the day (an a bad case of road rash). Man I miss that bike, Shovel head top end, pan head bottom end with shotgun pipes, Jammer hard tail frame, extended girder front end with a 21" wheel and big Fat Bob tanks. Rode rougher than a corn cob but that bike was fun. Bike was totaled when it got hit by anohter car after we had to lay it down when a semi decided to jack knife in front of us. Went right under the trailer with our leathers on the ground as I was kicking away from the bike.
I see lots of things transportation wise that drives me nuts (a folding hood instead of a tilting front end on an over the road truck tractor, cars that don't look quit right, etc...) I am a retired Master technician with heavy truck/oil filed equipment experience so that stuff makes me crazy.
Hopefully, in the future we will get some good female biker clothing that is actually biker clothing.
a few Suzi Quatro style outfits would not go amis
There's no friction in cyberspace :)
That is a pretty good model of a Vincent. nice.
My biking days are over but I still turn my head at every bike within 100 feet of me. Yesterday I was passed by a little slip of a girl on an appropriately sized motorcycle for her, but still big enough to have some zip. Alabaster white skin begging for a sunburn over 80% of her, and 20% frilly tissue on the rest of her, and a cute little cheap looking brain pan that didn't interfere with blowing hair. (*sigh*) She won't be so cute after they transplant any left over skin to cover the parts grated off. There are two types of bikers. Those who have "gone down" and those who will.
And cities are no place to drive a motorcycle! I remember in '95 being in San Francisco for three weeks and while there I WITNESSED three bad motorcycle accidents. One guy had his leg bones sticking out of his leg. What are the probabilities of simply coming upon three motorcycle accidents, after the fact, in a year, much less witnessing them happen in three weeks????
well.. it took a fair bit of tweaking to get the pushrod towers correct, and the cylinders are juts that, cylinders with a texture and displacement, but it was the only one available.. Works, though as you say..
Here are a few more bike renders...
and a few that are a bit more "on the wild side" - should run one up in the style that my '36 ULH was in..
I love bikes, but ever since I had a carbonmonoxide poisoning incident when I was younger, my balance is really bad (can't walk up or down a moving escalator without getting vertigo bad). I can't ride now, so I'm down to gazing longingly. However, I'm seeing more and more of the 3-wheel Spyders around. I think they look really sharp! I wouldn't mind giving one of those a try. I wish someone would model one for Daz.
I think TruForm has one over at 'rosity
Trikes are awesome, even if they seem to be bump magnets! Can Ams are hard to miss when they go by (seen one or two of those).
Here's one that probably needs to be modeled just because...
There's a free one at the Sketchup 3d warehouse, and it seems to import well into DAZ.. here's a qucik test with rudimentary texturing
I have posted these images before, elsewhere in the forums, but will post again. The younger of my 2 brothers became registered disabled, and in fact spent the last few years of his life living in what here in the UK is know as Sheltered Housing (accommodation for elderly or disabled people consisting of private independent units with some shared facilities and a warden). However he was not going to give up riding, This is the last machine he was riding, specially adapted, Storage under the back seat for his Crutches/walking aids and all controls on the handlebars. Unfortunately, on top of his disability from 2014 onwards he was also fighting a battle with Cancer, and last Febuary the Cancer won. more than 100 bikes, most 2 up accompanied him on his last ride.
Hey, look, I DID get a picture of those really cute boots I saw on a gal that rode with us on a group ride!
Since we seem to be reminiscing about the old days in this thread, Heres a pic of the group as we were assembling for one of our mpropmptu group rides a few years back. I'm guessing I'm a bit younger than you guys, judging by the b&w photos above (nice pics chohole!)
This was a really fun ride, and one of our largest impromptu gatherings. Alas, the bike in the foreground found a patch of gravel later in the day, which was a bit of a downer, but the rider made it out OK with a bit of medical attention.
It was a glorious day for us canyon chaser types!
This is the bike I had before I had to sell it because I couldn't ride any longer (not mine shown). I ended up selling it to a kid who totalled it 3 weeks later.
That bike deserved a better fate Stryder!
Agreed. I loved working on it. I bought it from a friend who had stored it in a shop that went up in flames. The bike wasn't damaged much, but I had to do a little restoring, plus the carbs were totally gummed up. It was so lethargic that I had to open the throttle wide and let the clutch out slowly to get it to go without stalling. I pulled the carb assembly off, rebuilt it all, put it back on and took it for a spin. I did the same thing as usual on the first test run and ended up popping a wheely for about 15 feet, had a mild heart attack, and had to clean out my shorts!
Love the look of these, and wish they weren't so dag blasted expensive.
Oh man, I want a Vincent so bad! That was the coolest, sexiest bike ever. Won't somebody please make one for Daz Studio Iray?