On the subject of A.T.G.A.T.T. and lack of passenger pegs on bikes...

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  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,029

    Well.. having run a  Shadow for a while, if I were to have one today, I think I might prefer it as a Patrick Godet Sports GT version, and with a Grosset electric starter.. Kickstarting a Shadow was not always fun...   As for Daz I thiought I saw a 3ds MAX model for free out there somewhere, not sure..

    Godet Vincemt:

     

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057

    Just saw this on ABC News, so I looked it up...

    http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/05/21/07/52/motogp-jack-miller-survives-terrifying-crash-french

    Watching the video, it's incredible that the bike didn't end up on top of him.  What's more incredible that he walked away more or less unscathed, and apparently grabbed the 11th spot in qualifying later that day!

    Go A.T.G.A.T.T.!  It doesn't save everyone, but it helps!

  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,128
    edited May 2017

    I don't know from motorcycles, but the mention of the Vincent reminds me of RIchard Thompson's brilliant '1952 Vincent Black Lightning' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kJdrfzjAg)

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  • Dream CutterDream Cutter Posts: 1,224
    edited May 2017

    Yeah... Skimp on the leather and the biker will be sorry.  But with High Boots, Chaps & Performance Leather who needs skipmwear?  Just eliminate all thread from the render ;D

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  • PennamePenname Posts: 344

    I thought the same thing when I saw that outfit, although I liked the helmet.  I'm a height challenged female rider and I wear riding boots that have a good heel.  Works for me although you don't get as much footprint on the ground as a full flat sole. Pretty much ATGATT (a slow km ride to the store might be an exception) and I live where it gets hot in summer.  I cringe when I see young guys on sports bikes dressed in t-shirts and shorts or worse, when they are riding like idiots with their scantily clad girlfriends are behind them.  I just can't see taking a risk like that with someone else's life.  But as long as we're talking fantasy and not modeling reality, our models can wear what they like I suppose.

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    Penname said:

    I thought the same thing when I saw that outfit, although I liked the helmet.  I'm a height challenged female rider and I wear riding boots that have a good heel.  Works for me although you don't get as much footprint on the ground as a full flat sole. Pretty much ATGATT (a slow km ride to the store might be an exception) and I live where it gets hot in summer.  I cringe when I see young guys on sports bikes dressed in t-shirts and shorts or worse, when they are riding like idiots with their scantily clad girlfriends are behind them.  I just can't see taking a risk like that with someone else's life.  But as long as we're talking fantasy and not modeling reality, our models can wear what they like I suppose.

    Some bikes have linkage lowering kits (usually aftermarket)  to help with this.  The Powerfpuff bike I linked earlier was lowered using a linkage lowering kit as well as an adjustment to the forks, with the kickstand being shortened accoridingly, lowering the overall bike height by 1.75".  The gal that owns/owned that bike is very height challenged.

    I generally wear boots with about a 1 1/2" heel myself for somewhat similar reasons, but that's a pretty common heel size for guys boots, especially in the Harley style boot options.

    Might be worth looking into if you haven't done this already.  Not all bikes have these as options, but I've seen them mentioned a number of times for various bikes.

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited May 2017

    Yay! A bike with passenger pegs!

    No A.T.G.A.T.T. to speak of though (except for the sidecar guy, he is wearing a fair amount of cloth), which brings me to Rollie Free, and one of the most famous pics in motorcycle history...

    Rollie here is pictured as he was going for a land speed record (look it up).  You guys were talking about Vincents...

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited May 2018

    I think I'm in love...

    There's a really nice biker outfit that just went up over at Rendo (Chameleon ROse biker outfit).  The overlapping jacket even opens!

    The sport bike from the same vendor has passenger pegs (Chameleon Roadracer).  The bike is rather detailed, has adjustable handlebars, working levers (clutch, brake), and is rather detailed overall.  He even threw in a helmet just for fun.

    My only nitpick is that the outfit has just a hint of midriff between the pants and shirt, but I'd probably just use a scaler on the abdomen to 'fix' that.  But overall, well two the products feature ATGATT and Passenger pegs... yeah Zoro D gets it!  Also, it's for G3F or G8F (separate products), and no male version as of yet, but this artist is just getting started so that's understandable.  It's not here, though but noteworthy nonetheless.

    The weapons assortment is just a bonus as far as I'm concerned.

    As for here...

    The biker jacket that is part of set 2 from Badkitten Co that was featured here recently was nice too, although the one in the second set doesn't open (I own it).  Between the two outfits, with the jacket and boots from set 2, along with the pants and chaps from set 1, well you can manage full coverage is possible at least.  The helmet from set 2 is old school, but at least a helmet is included.  Alas, no male version as of yet.

    Thanks again Badkitten Co for these!

    In short, more of this sort of stuff please!  Some of us like to have the option of passengers riding pillion, and having our riders wearing full protection!

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,239

    ..yeah she makes some really nice stuff. I like this set as well. 

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321

    When I was in Germany, I worked in a German Emergency Room.
    A drop-dead gorgeous, coulda-been-a-model girl was brought in.
    17 years old. Had been wearing skimpwear on a motorcycle.
    Got sideswiped by a car, which shredded the skin on her once-perfect
    left leg and arm, the road did for her right side. (and other patches of skin).
    After she was as healed as much as she would, the results were terrible.
    The pain had made her face look like she was 80, and the resulting scar tissue
    covered most of her body.
    Her boyfriend was wearing leather, had some broken bones but most of his
    skin was intact.
    I just put a solo seat on my Sportster. If it was thirty years ago, I'd carry a
    passenger. But today? With the lack of courtesy and the distractions? No way.
    When I was driving a truck, I would look down into passing cars. I've seen so
    much selfish, suicidal stupidity it's terrifying.

    But my riding boots have 1" heels. Helps them stay in place on the pegs.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,239

    ...some really nice worn leathers and boots just hit the store however, they are .objs, only work with G8F, and require Marvelous Designer for posing purposes. 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,666
    edited May 2018

    I rode motorcycle for many years.  I was very careful and often got kidded for it by my biker friends saying I drove like an old man (which I wasn't at the time).  But even I had two accidents over the years.  The saying is "There are two kinds of bikers, those who have gone down and those who will."  I very rarely had a passenger.  My first accident was alone, I smashed right smack into the front fender of a car that turned in front of me.  Broke his windshield and bent my bike forks but I was otherwise OK.  The second accident was again a car turning onto the main road right in front of me, I swerved to pass on the shoulder but went down the ditch and then up over a driveway but the radical bump caused my passenger to break his wrist hanging on to the underside of his seat.  It also caused him spine compression.  The bike never fell, I stopped upright eventually (on wet grass even surprise) but we had to call the ambulance for my passenger and none of the witnesses noticed the car's license number (this was long before phone/cameras) before she snuck away angry.  I'd lent my friend my old leather jacket.  Unfortunately, the ambulance people, I think, took perverse glee in cutting it off of him. frown

    And yes, I would be not inclined to have a motorcycle today, even if I was 30 years younger.  Drivers these days are too self absorbed, too distracted, too comfortable in their luxurious killing machines, and generally non-thinking, non-predictive drivers.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Scavenger said:

    There's no friction in cyberspace :)

    True.

    But I'm reading lots of friction in real space in this thread.

    ... I liked the outfit, but passed; I can accept artistic licence, but if that costs me time in tweakage, I wait till it's 70% off... If at all.

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited May 2018

    Here's a quick render of that Chameleon Roadracer and Chameleon riding outfit I was mentioning earlier.  The bike comes with a few poses, like this Stoppie pose.

    Not a bad looking sport bike!  The rear wheel height is adjustable, to simulate the shock absorber movement.  It also has adjustable handlebar levers, so simulate braking, etc.  I could have put a passenger on to show off the rear pegs in use, but passengers and stoppies, yeah not doing that.

    I like these sport biker boots (they fit the motif), although I personally prefer the Engineer boots that BadkittenCo made, as they look good with most casual outfits.

    If I truly wanted to highlight safety, I'd probably add a couple of yellow floruescent stripes to the sleeves, legs, and back.  Maybe later...

    Anyways, this outfit and the outfits from BadkittenCo make me happy.  More of this please!

     

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,780
    edited May 2018

     

    And yes, I would be not inclined to have a motorcycle today, even if I was 30 years younger.  Drivers these days are too self absorbed, too distracted, too comfortable in their luxurious killing machines, and generally non-thinking, non-predictive drivers.

    Could not agree more! I am tempted to run a person off the road daily, usually for using their phone while driving or just being an idiot!

    I rode bikes in college and went over a red light runner's hood on the way to class while on a buddys Honda V45 Sabre. Woke up 3 days later in the hospital and my buddy had my helmet in his hands showing how it broke into several parts on impact. Didn't get on a bike again for 15 years, LOL

    When I was a musician I used to date a dancer that rode a Harley. She would come out to the cafe I managed on the lake on weekends on the bike usually wearing cowboy boots, cutoffs and a small top of some sort. I gave her a ton of crap about it, but I gotta say, she did look good on that bike in those outfits. Luckily she never had any wrecks while she owned it, but it made me crazy worrying about her after my experience and thankfully she let me drive when we took the bike together..

     

    Thanks for pointing out that outfit at Rendo, off to pick it up.

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  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,714
    edited May 2018

    Here's a quick render of that Chameleon Roadracer and Chameleon riding outfit I was mentioning earlier.  The bike comes with a few poses, like this Stoppie pose.

    Not a bad looking sport bike!  The rear wheel height is adjustable, to simulate the shock absorber movement.  It also has adjustable handlebar levers, so simulate braking, etc.  I could have put a passenger on to show off the rear pegs in use, but passengers and stoppies, yeah not doing that.

    I like these sport biker boots (they fit the motif), although I personally prefer the Engineer boots that BadkittenCo made, as they look good with most casual outfits.

    If I truly wanted to highlight safety, I'd probably add a couple of yellow floruescent stripes to the sleeves, legs, and back.  Maybe later...

    Anyways, this outfit and the outfits from BadkittenCo make me happy.  More of this please!

     

    Even though it is for G8F (the version I picked up), it autofits pretty well to G8M (with Michael 8 dialed in here for the body). I slapped a geoshell on to cover the midriff (and for him to have something on under the jacket).

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,239
    ...yeah even on a human powered bike (or just walking) dealing with clueless mouth breathing phone to the ear motorists is scary. Last Friday while crossing a street with the walk light this humongous SUV was making a left turn an almost pushed into me. Stared the driver right in the eye as he kept rolling at me but it did no good. Hoped he'd get stuck by a slow moving freight train for his impatience.
  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    (snip) (r.e. Chameleon Rider Outfit)

    Even though it is for G8F (the version I picked up), it autofits pretty well to G8M (with Michael 8 dialed in here for the body). I slapped a geoshell on to cover the midriff (and for him to have something on under the jacket).

    Haven't tried fitting that one on a G8M yet.  Looks like it was made for him!

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    A.T.G.A.T.T!,,,  A.T.G.A.T.T!... A.T.G.A.T.T!

    ​I've dropped bikes -scooter, Honda 350, and even a '42 Harley- and never lost skin. Then again, a year ago, one of my brothers was killed on his bike by an SUV, despite full gear. Some things are up to God (fate? karma?) but you try and protect yourself as much as you can. And I never had a passenger behind me.(Having said that, I haven't ridden in fourty odd years, after an industrial accident left me disabled).

  • brimstoneomegabrimstoneomega Posts: 343
    edited May 2018

     

    Must say thank you for pointing out that outfit. I got the whole set for GF8, the character, outfit and the bike. These are all really standout products, I'm more then happy with them all. 

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  • A.T.G.A.T.T!,,,  A.T.G.A.T.T!... A.T.G.A.T.T!

    ​I've dropped bikes -scooter, Honda 350, and even a '42 Harley- and never lost skin. Then again, a year ago, one of my brothers was killed on his bike by an SUV, despite full gear. Some things are up to God (fate? karma?) but you try and protect yourself as much as you can. And I never had a passenger behind me.(Having said that, I haven't ridden in fourty odd years, after an industrial accident left me disabled).

    That's terrible, I'm so sorry for your loss.

    My heart goes out to your and your family.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    Thanks, Brimstoneomega. My brother was 64, but he had said all along that he would want to die in his leathers, on a bike. And it was over before he knew what hit him. Not a bad way to go. And sorry if I derailed the thread.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345
    Stryder87 said:

    I love bikes, but ever since I had a carbonmonoxide poisoning incident when I was younger, my balance is really bad (can't walk up or down a moving escalator without getting vertigo bad).  I can't ride now, so I'm down to gazing longingly.  However, I'm seeing more and more of the 3-wheel Spyders around.  I think they look really sharp!  I wouldn't mind giving one of those a try.  I wish someone would model one for Daz.

     

    Trikes are awesome, even if they seem to be bump magnets!  Can Ams are hard to miss when they go by (seen one or two of those).

    Here's one that probably needs to be modeled just because...

    NOW I have seen everything!  That is hilarious - even if the ride is aweful.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345
    edited May 2018

    How about the Monowheel?

    https://www.daz3d.com/one-wheel-motor

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  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321
    dracorn said:
    Stryder87 said:

    I love bikes, but ever since I had a carbonmonoxide poisoning incident when I was younger, my balance is really bad (can't walk up or down a moving escalator without getting vertigo bad).  I can't ride now, so I'm down to gazing longingly.  However, I'm seeing more and more of the 3-wheel Spyders around.  I think they look really sharp!  I wouldn't mind giving one of those a try.  I wish someone would model one for Daz.

     

    Trikes are awesome, even if they seem to be bump magnets!  Can Ams are hard to miss when they go by (seen one or two of those).

    Here's one that probably needs to be modeled just because...

    NOW I have seen everything!  That is hilarious - even if the ride is aweful.

    Can you imagine that thing at speed? That huge aircatcher would lift the
    front wheels off the ground!
    Not to mention crosswind terror.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited May 2018
    kyoto kid said:
    ...yeah even on a human powered bike (or just walking) dealing with clueless mouth breathing phone to the ear motorists is scary. Last Friday while crossing a street with the walk light this humongous SUV was making a left turn an almost pushed into me. Stared the driver right in the eye as he kept rolling at me but it did no good. Hoped he'd get stuck by a slow moving freight train for his impatience.

    And as a motorist, I've had some close brushes with clueless pedestrians because their phone is more important than their safety.

    No pause, no look, just a sudden changed of direction into the road.

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  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,162

    In the late 60's early 70's a member of one of the bike gangs/clubs near me built his own trike, long before anyone else was riding them. He would drive around without a helmet just to wind the police up who would always stop him for riding without a helmet. He explained to them that he didn't need one as it was a three wheeled vehicle and not a motor bike so he didn't require one or else the people who had the three wheeled invalid vehicles would also have to wear one. They eventually stopped stopping him.

    The first time I was on one was in 2015. It was a trip bought for us either as a 65th birthday present, we are both the same age, or our 42nd wedding aniversary, I can't remember which. Anyway I took this video of the trip that might be of interest.

    Best viewed full screen in HD.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited May 2018

    Sandy I will bookmark that and watch it right through when I have time.  I do wish that I could have seen it earlier and passed it on to my brother before he passed on.  He rode a customised, especially built trike, In his case it was instead of an motability vehicle, as he deemed disabled and lived in sheltered housing for the last few years of his life. He had been a biker all his life, and the trike was the only way he could continue to be a biker.  He was a founder member of the Medway chapter of the Renegades MC, which is a fully back patched MC.  He had a full bikers funeral, and was escorted from outside the sheltered housing complex on his last ride by approx 150+ bikers from 5 or 6 different MCs.This was his trike.  There was space under the back seat for his Walking aids, once he got off the trike.

    I can't find a copy of the newer photos of the trike,  he had had a lot more work done on it.

    After the funeral the trike was auctioned to raise money for the Macmillan Cancer charity. He had also requested no flowers for his funeral, but donations to Macmillan.

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  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,162

    That would have been some scene with 150 roaring engines. This video was from a Harley Club Jamboree Rideout.

    There is something head turning about the sound of a Harley engine :)

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Chohole said:

    I have posted these images before, elsewhere in the forums, but will post again.   The younger of my 2 brothers became registered disabled, and in fact spent the last few years of his life living in what here in the UK is know as Sheltered Housing (accommodation for elderly or disabled people consisting of private independent units with some shared facilities and a warden). However he was not going to give up riding, This is the last machine he was riding, specially adapted,  Storage under the back seat for his Crutches/walking aids and all controls on the handlebars.  Unfortunately, on top of his disability from 2014 onwards he was also fighting a battle with Cancer, and last Febuary the Cancer won.  more than 100 bikes, most 2 up accompanied him on his last ride

    Wow, that's an amazing bike Cho!  I'm so sorry about your brother, that's a tought thing for all to go through.  I'm sure while he was riding though, he felt free and independent 

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