The Hackers got to my XP Complaint Thread

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    screenshot of the day. Me running Windows 3.1x in an emulator. I'm showing my age. :p

    oh it burns XD

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,263
    edited December 1969

    We had some football across the pond today

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Frank0314 said:
    Thank god it's Sunday. Another day of football!


    the pointy ball football? :)

    'sall cricket here now XD

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,263
    edited December 1969

    Yes the pointy ball one.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Frank0314 said:
    Yes the pointy ball one.

    Pointy ball season is over here, round balls rule XD

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited October 2013

    i did not know that people in Australia play cricket. I thought only people in England, Pakistan and India play cricket. I learned something new today.

    edited for clarity and grammar

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,263
    edited December 1969

    How do you play a game that could last days

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    i did not know that people in Australia play cricket. I thought only people in England, Pakistan and India play cricket. I learned something new today.

    edited for clarity and grammar

    Since 1803

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Frank0314 said:
    How do you play a game that could last days

    Not so much the last-for-days as the no-result draw puts me off watching. But the cricket ppl love it :>)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    ps1borg said:
    Hehe dolly looks kinda as if it wants to eat brains XD

    She can't...her mouth is sewed shut! :ahhh:

    Oscar Mike Golem XD

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    For some reason the edit thing won'y work for me. Crap forgot what was saying now. Still can't make mind up about shaders

    ETA there is a picture of a post apocalyptic martian on TV Oscar Mike Golf

    OK, this one is really striking!

    Dana

    Zombies get a bad rap, vultures are far hungrier XD

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)
    ...just saw the BBC report. Sounds pretty rough.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)


    ...just saw the BBC report. Sounds pretty rough.

    Yes good luck with that, sounds quite alarming :>)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited October 2013

    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)


    ...just saw the BBC report. Sounds pretty rough.


    you have batteries? matches? non-perishable food stuff?
    eeks, i hate when it comes during the night.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.

    Hey great, nicely done :>)

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)


    ...just saw the BBC report. Sounds pretty rough.


    you have batteries? matches? non-perishable food stuff?
    eeks, i hate when it comes during the night.

    Worst storm I was in was new years eve 1999 on a beach down the coast, the world shook and groaned and rattled in the dark for hours \m/

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)


    ...just saw the BBC report. Sounds pretty rough.


    you have batteries? matches? non-perishable food stuff?
    eeks, i hate when it comes during the night.

    Worst storm I was in was new years eve 1999 on a beach down the coast, the world shook and groaned and rattled in the dark for hours \m/

    for me I think it must be the Blizzard of 1978. I worked out of town and the boss didn't let us go home until 3:15 pm. The storm was already well underway. It was normally a 30 to 40 minute drive. It took me about 3.5 hours to get home. I was driving a 1969 Chrysler Newport. People abandoned their cars on the highways in Boston and Providence during that storm. I didn't get stuck once. But I did stop, two blocks from home, to get out and help someone with a little MG sport car get out of a snow bank crossing the main avenue. The Newport just plowed right through that same bank. What a tank that car was!

    Dana

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    edited October 2013

    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.


    ...looking pretty good.

    Someday I have to figure out this modelling stuff.

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.


    ...looking pretty good.

    Someday I have to figure out this modelling stuff.

    Me, too!

    Dana

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)


    ...just saw the BBC report. Sounds pretty rough.


    you have batteries? matches? non-perishable food stuff?
    eeks, i hate when it comes during the night.

    Worst storm I was in was new years eve 1999 on a beach down the coast, the world shook and groaned and rattled in the dark for hours \m/

    for me I think it must be the Blizzard of 1978. I worked out of town and the boss didn't let us go home until 3:15 pm. The storm was already well underway. It was normally a 30 to 40 minute drive. It took me about 3.5 hours to get home. I was driving a 1969 Chrysler Newport. People abandoned their cars on the highways in Boston and Providence during that storm. I didn't get stuck once. But I did stop, two blocks from home, to get out and help someone with a little MG sport car get out of a snow bank crossing the main avenue. The Newport just plowed right through that same bank. What a tank that car was!

    Dana

    Can't imagine what a snowstorm is like. Chrysler, wow

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.


    ...looking pretty good.

    Someday I have to figure out this modelling stuff.

    Me, too!

    Dana

    Wings3D and Hex are pretty good, you don't need a lot of flash for most stuff :>)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    edited October 2013

    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    chohole said:
    and in the UK we are all gearing ourselves up and bracing ourselves for the storm that is going to hit us overnight. :shut:

    Your storm has made the radio news here :>)


    ...just saw the BBC report. Sounds pretty rough.


    you have batteries? matches? non-perishable food stuff?
    eeks, i hate when it comes during the night.

    Worst storm I was in was new years eve 1999 on a beach down the coast, the world shook and groaned and rattled in the dark for hours \m/

    for me I think it must be the Blizzard of 1978. I worked out of town and the boss didn't let us go home until 3:15 pm. The storm was already well underway. It was normally a 30 to 40 minute drive. It took me about 3.5 hours to get home. I was driving a 1969 Chrysler Newport. People abandoned their cars on the highways in Boston and Providence during that storm. I didn't get stuck once. But I did stop, two blocks from home, to get out and help someone with a little MG sport car get out of a snow bank crossing the main avenue. The Newport just plowed right through that same bank. What a tank that car was!

    Dana

    Can't imagine what a snowstorm is like. Chrysler, wow
    ...first car I drove was a 69 Buick LeSabre, about as big.


    A few years ago we had a two heavy snowstorms hit Portland back to back within a couple days of each other. Very rare for here where usually a couple inches paralyses the city, resulting in school closures and round the clock hour Storm Watch "20XX!" coverage. Some areas had up to a foot and a half of the white stuff, and it was the fluffy almost powdery kind instead of the wet heavy snow we usually get.

    That weekend I was riding around town in a big old Mercury Wagon, which had no snow tyres or chains, with a friend who grew up in Alaska . Never got stuck once as these were the conditions she learned how to drive in at an early age. Was sad but also funny to see people in those expensive 4x4 SUVs (with snow tyres or chains) spinning all four wheels and going nowhere while we kept plodding along past them in our old land yacht..

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    *loves big ol' tech*

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.


    ...looking pretty good.

    Someday I have to figure out this modelling stuff.

    Me, too!

    Dana

    Wings3D and Hex are pretty good, you don't need a lot of flash for most stuff :>)
    ...Hexagon still has major stability issues and Daz hasn't updated it for about five years. Wings I never got into as the UI was hard to read because the colour choice and contrast between the text and menu backgrounds was poor. Also it seemed just about every few days there was another update or patch to downland and install. Blender is stable and powerful, but its UI requires a graduate level course in cryptology to understand.

    ...this is why I have done so little modelling.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.


    ...looking pretty good.

    Someday I have to figure out this modelling stuff.

    Me, too!

    Dana

    Wings3D and Hex are pretty good, you don't need a lot of flash for most stuff :>)

    I have the latest build of Hexagon, and I started to work with it. I have some of the tutorials by John "Fugazzi", including two he sold here, using Hexagon. I haven't followed along with those two yet. I was glad he did them, because his other ones over at Renderosity utilize Silo, which has its differences from Hex.

    I'll get back to it eventually.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    gave shade mixer about 5 hours of my life today.


    brought my wings project into poser for a test render. over 800 polys, mostly triangles. it's an empty glass. needs some wine to fit inside it.

    it feels good to make progress, haven't put up freebies since Wayii left with the challenges.


    ...looking pretty good.

    Someday I have to figure out this modelling stuff.

    Me, too!

    Dana

    Wings3D and Hex are pretty good, you don't need a lot of flash for most stuff :>)
    ...Hexagon still has major stability issues and Daz hasn't updated it for about five years. Wings I never got into as the UI was hard to read because the colour choice and contrast between the text and menu backgrounds was poor. Also it seemed just about every few days there was another update or patch to downland and install. Blender is stable and powerful, but its UI requires a graduate level course in cryptology to understand.

    ...this is why I have done so little modelling.

    Not true, they did some updates for it last year (I think) that people say really helped.

    Dana

  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388
    edited October 2013

    Kyoto Kid said:

    ...#1, the system is Win7. Never going to touch 8 because it's UI is better suited to tablets and Smartphones and therefore is absolute rubbish on a workstation.
    Okay, it's Win 7. But before you dismiss Windows 8 out of hand, you should realize that you are basing your judgement only on the "Start Screen" motif and tiled UI, which can easily be disabled/ignored.

    If you want to avoid the "rubbish", you can install a free start-button tool such as "Classic Start". Works great. It's free.

    ...#5 the readouts from this look about as incomprehensible as the ones in the Windoze diagnostics in Safe Mode to someone not who is not idiomatically fluent in "Geekspeak" (might as well be written in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs).

    Background: When computers crash they often give diagnostic information. Unflatteringly, this diagnostic information is often called a "memory dump" or a "core dump"; a term from the 1960's. Yes, you can actually think of "a dump" as the same thing described by the slang of a "number 2", because this really is an apt description! That's because a "dump" contains everything in the computer's digestive system; valuable information for anybody willing to try to understand it (even just a little bit) and sift through it to figure out what killed the patient. :cheese:

    Getting Your Hands Dirty: Dumps give low-level crash information, including memory locations and offsets, the module and instruction last executed (for sometimes the "poison pill" instruction was the one just before the one executed). Yes, it's "Geekspeak". Sorry about that...but in my defense, I never promised that this stuff would be easy to do. However, the information is available, should a user be interested in doing some digging. Or annoyed enough at BSODs as to be willing to make an effort. Google is your friend. If you have an inquisitive mind and a can-do attitude, you can figure out more than you give yourself credit for!

    Editorial Comment: I stopped calling Windows "Windoze" about ten years ago. I consciously decided that I needed to stop being demeaning with it and do a better job of understanding it and using it. For me, this was the best decision, and has even opened up opportunities for me in my career (which is most certainly creative, thought not quite in the arts fields). Having learned my lesson with Windows, I no longer use disparaging terms to refer to Macs, iPhones, iPads, Android devices, Linux, or UNIX systems either. Oh sure, I will say when something is dumb. But only if it really is dumb in it's current iteration. I just remind myself constantly that many things improve over time. Yes, Windows too! Yes, iOS too! And Mac OSX!

    ...#6 again, the system in question is WIn7 4 bit.
    ...and just to set the record straight, XP does have 64 bit support as well.

    I'm sure you meant "Windows 7 64 bit". I get it that's what you're using. But since you brought up a new topic...

    Background: Yes, there was/is/are a couple of Windows/XP 64 flavors; IA 64 for the Itanium CPU architecture, and X86 64. Pretty much nobody in the end-user/home-user space has an IA 64 system, and the X86 version of Windows/XP Pro 64 Bit had a lot of limitations with regards to running 32 bit code in emulation/compatibility mode. Plus, it's pretty much at the same code level as Windows Server 2003, which makes it ... well, obsolete.

    What Really Matters: And the reality is that it's very unlikely that anybody reading this is running either version of XP 64 bit for serious or casual 3D artistry. I did not mention it in my initial post because it's a minor point. Explaining minor points to exhaustion sometimes just serves no real purpose except to possibly distract the reader from my main point.

    So now to "de-distract" the conversation: At least one of these things makes XP (any version of XP) a bad choice for anybody trying to keep score at home. This is all any of us should need to know.

    1. It's 32 bit and is subject to memory addressability limitations of 2GB. 3GB if you use the 3GB switch. But this is really of no benefit for those who put a lot of characters in a scene. 32 bit OS will eventually impair your ability to use newer software.
    2. It's not very secure compared to Windows 7 and Windows 8.
    3. Security updates stop in February 2014, so it will quickly become even less secure.
    4. In time, more and more software will require Windows 7 or better, Windows 8 or better, or will require the 64 bit version of one or the other.
    5. Windows XP in any configuration is just plain obsolete. The kernel, memory subsystem, and I/O subsystem were all written ten or more years ago. It is long-past time to retire XP.

    Good luck swatting your BSOD. I hope you figure out what is causing it.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    edited October 2013

    DanaTA said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...Hexagon still has major stability issues and Daz hasn't updated it for about five years. Wings I never got into as the UI was hard to read because the colour choice and contrast between the text and menu backgrounds was poor. Also it seemed just about every few days there was another update or patch to downland and install. Blender is stable and powerful, but its UI requires a graduate level course in cryptology to understand.

    ...this is why I have done so little modelling.

    Not true, they did some updates for it last year (I think) that people say really helped.

    Dana
    ...the latest I have on my list is a Beta release in May of 2011 (2.5.1.79) which was basically the "new" version of Hexagon released in early 2012.

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