Pose Architect

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,703

    Merged the two Pose Architect threads.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    Ptrope said:

    I'm a little puzzled why it's available for both GBM & G8F, but for G3, only the male is accommodated. Honestly, I use G3F more than anything, and this looks like it would be very handy - but I'm left doing it all by hand, it seems. Will the G3M work for G3F, or will G8F work for her?

    I thought it was odd, too. However, the vendor submits the products to Daz, but Daz decides when to release them.

    My guess is after the original product did well, and with all the requests for G3 and male versions, the vendor created and submitted versions for G3F, G3M and G8M. Assuming I guessed right, the G3F version release won't be too far behind.

    But I am just guessing.

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,005

    Looks like it wasn't a long wait after all smiley

  • 3D Universe3D Universe Posts: 328
    RAMWolff said:

    I was just going to ask the same thing.  This would be useful to published artists for sure but don't know if it's a merchant resource.  Be nice if Steve were to pop in here and let us know!  

    Hiya - we have no problem with you distributing poses created with this tool as long as you don't use any other 3rd party partial poses or pose dials in the process of creating your pose.

  • 3D Universe3D Universe Posts: 328
    The male ones came out a bit after the female one. Not unreasonable to think there may be a G3F coming...

    Both male and female, G3 and G8 versions are now available.

  • ZippyGuitarZippyGuitar Posts: 849
    Whoa, I did not notice G3 versions! I thought it was some sort of G8 bundle yesterday but couldn't click on the product. Thank you 3D Universe for including a G3M version. I'm looking forward to playing with these for both generations.
  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,256
    RAMWolff said:

    I was just going to ask the same thing.  This would be useful to published artists for sure but don't know if it's a merchant resource.  Be nice if Steve were to pop in here and let us know!  

    Hiya - we have no problem with you distributing poses created with this tool as long as you don't use any other 3rd party partial poses or pose dials in the process of creating your pose.

    Thanks for chiming in.  I am a little concerned about two aspects that were brought up here though.  The poses seem overly feminized for the male?  Hmmm and if using your tool locks the poses (as Choppski pointed out) in a particular position adding in my own home grown poses (I've done quite  few pose packs so no I don't use others poses 99.9% of the time) this is a concern of mine as well!  

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,005
    I haven't used it yet, but it comes with a script to convert the poses from the dials into standard poses, which should then allow you to use any other poses or pose dials, if I'm understanding correctly.
  • 3D Universe3D Universe Posts: 328
    Choppski said:

    I'm a little confused about pose architect. Is it a serious of poses? Pose dials? Is it for merchants? Does the utility save a pose you create? Any information appreciated.

    The dials control animated poses, so adjusting the dial gradually will apply the animated pose as if you were scrubbing on a timeline. The dials can be mixed and applied various strengths to achieve the pose you want.

    Once you have finished using the dials, the included script can be used to convert the control dial values into body part pose values. The control dials will then be reset. This final pose can be saved as a normal pose preset. 

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    It's very useful; after conversion, I sometimes tweak, then convert again... Works great.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,179

    will these be bundled at some point? G3F/M G8F/M ?  or all of them together?

  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,216

     

    Choppski said:

    I'm a little confused about pose architect. Is it a serious of poses? Pose dials? Is it for merchants? Does the utility save a pose you create? Any information appreciated.

     

    RAMWolff said:

    I was just going to ask the same thing.  This would be useful to published artists for sure but don't know if it's a merchant resource.  Be nice if Steve were to pop in here and let us know!  

    I was curious about that too. Could the PA or someone from Daz let us know? It doesn't say anything on the product page or readme page.

  • 3D Universe3D Universe Posts: 328
    Kitsumo said:

     

    Choppski said:

    I'm a little confused about pose architect. Is it a serious of poses? Pose dials? Is it for merchants? Does the utility save a pose you create? Any information appreciated.

     

    RAMWolff said:

    I was just going to ask the same thing.  This would be useful to published artists for sure but don't know if it's a merchant resource.  Be nice if Steve were to pop in here and let us know!  

    I was curious about that too. Could the PA or someone from Daz let us know? It doesn't say anything on the product page or readme page.

    Already answered this. 

    Hiya - we have no problem with you distributing poses created with this tool as long as you don't use any other 3rd party partial poses or pose dials in the process of creating your pose.

     

    daveso said:

    will these be bundled at some point? G3F/M G8F/M ?  or all of them together?

    We are not planning on a bundle of these utilities.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,680

    I love this. It is very useful. I was wondering if you might consider putting the right arm and left arm poses in  sub sections. It might make them easier to utilize...

     also is it possible to alter the hand poses when they are used with the arms?

  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,216
    Kitsumo said:

     

    Choppski said:

    I'm a little confused about pose architect. Is it a serious of poses? Pose dials? Is it for merchants? Does the utility save a pose you create? Any information appreciated.

     

    RAMWolff said:

    I was just going to ask the same thing.  This would be useful to published artists for sure but don't know if it's a merchant resource.  Be nice if Steve were to pop in here and let us know!  

    I was curious about that too. Could the PA or someone from Daz let us know? It doesn't say anything on the product page or readme page.

    Already answered this. 

    Hiya - we have no problem with you distributing poses created with this tool as long as you don't use any other 3rd party partial poses or pose dials in the process of creating your pose.

    Doh! I missed that. Thanks for the reply. I guess reading is fundamental.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,053
    edited April 2019

    I couldn’t get this to install through DIM for some reason so I did through Connect. Several products are not installing through DIM, not sure why...

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  • xmasrosexmasrose Posts: 1,406

    Pose controls under parameters I believe.

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,025

    I couldn’t get this to install through DIM for some reason so I did through Connect but I can’t find the controls anywhere... Where are they located?

    For me they were located under the Posing tab and had their own subsection. 

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    Just bought this in the sale - I thought it would be good for creating natural looking animations. However, it doesn't seem to play nicely with the timeline. I've tried it with 4.11 and 4.12 and am having the same problem - I want to copy a keyframe and paste it further down the timeline but it seems this is not possible. At least the Pose Architect posing isn't copied - anything I moved using the normal parameter sliders (bend arms, legs, etc.) copy & paste as normal.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited September 2019

    I've noticed another problem since installing this product: normal posing has been affected. Slower in general, viewport lag is very noticeable on my system. What brought this to my attention was the fact that Shift-CTRL-Z (reset pose to zero) now has a few seconds lag before anything happens. This is not normal behaviour on my system and I have not installed anything else recently. 

    Sorry but I'll have to uninstall it as posing is slow enough without having to contend with extra lag.

    [EDIT] Yeah, just timed the lag from a posed figure to zero pose (CTRL-SHIFT-Z) and without Pose Architect installed it is 2 seconds but with PA installed it is 7 seconds (YMMV).

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  • Just to throw in my two cents, if there's any doubt whether or not its worth the money, I've attached a render for an example. The body poses applied to the character(excluding the facial expression) alone probably would've taken me, the average & still learning user, a couple of hours. With the Pose Architect, I did it with around 7 minutes of experimenting. Imo, at least for me, the Pose Architect can get me closer to a desired pose much quicker compared to starting from scratch and trying to individually manipulate each section of the limbs & body while keeping center of gravity in mind.

     

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    marble said:

    I've noticed another problem since installing this product: normal posing has been affected. Slower in general, viewport lag is very noticeable on my system. What brought this to my attention was the fact that Shift-CTRL-Z (reset pose to zero) now has a few seconds lag before anything happens. This is not normal behaviour on my system and I have not installed anything else recently. 

    Sorry but I'll have to uninstall it as posing is slow enough without having to contend with extra lag.

    [EDIT] Yeah, just timed the lag from a posed figure to zero pose (CTRL-SHIFT-Z) and without Pose Architect installed it is 2 seconds but with PA installed it is 7 seconds (YMMV).

    So that's what's causing that delay?  I have the G3F and G8F ones and have noticed lag when applying poses now, and was thinking it could be something with the beta. 

    I guess it's kind of fun to use, but I've not used it in a scene render.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Sevrin said:
    marble said:

    I've noticed another problem since installing this product: normal posing has been affected. Slower in general, viewport lag is very noticeable on my system. What brought this to my attention was the fact that Shift-CTRL-Z (reset pose to zero) now has a few seconds lag before anything happens. This is not normal behaviour on my system and I have not installed anything else recently. 

    Sorry but I'll have to uninstall it as posing is slow enough without having to contend with extra lag.

    [EDIT] Yeah, just timed the lag from a posed figure to zero pose (CTRL-SHIFT-Z) and without Pose Architect installed it is 2 seconds but with PA installed it is 7 seconds (YMMV).

    So that's what's causing that delay?  I have the G3F and G8F ones and have noticed lag when applying poses now, and was thinking it could be something with the beta. 

    I guess it's kind of fun to use, but I've not used it in a scene render.

    No idea what's causing the lag other than it certainly seems to be associated with this product (the lag is not there when I uninstalled the product). Not the 4.12 beta either because I get the lag with 4.11. 

    As for speeding up posing - well, maybe but not really for me as I've been posing for a lot of years now and it has become second nature. The big plus with the product is the figure balance which is something I am always careful about with manual posing. Shame that I lose that but I can't carry on with the slow responses.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,680
    edited September 2019

    Although I have experienced pose lag and extremely slow processes when zeroing characters poses lately, uninstalling this product didn’t make this happen quicker for me. The lag still happens.

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  • Any chance of an add on pack for the males?

  • This might be a good place to put my request for Pose Architect add-on pack 2...

    It would be brilliant if Pose Architect included a walk cycle slider. All on one slider, 0% to 20% would go from a standing start into the first step, 20% to 80% would be a left and right step that could be cycled endlessly, and 80% to 100% would bring the character to a halt. There would be two versions of the slider: one where the character moves forward as they walk (I think this is what animators would want), and one where the character stays on the same spot (for stills artists). It would be so useful: need a picture of a character walking? Just dial the walking slider somewhere between 20% and 80%. Cool.

    Also, and rather less extravagently, could we have sliders that pose individual arms in the hanging down "natural" pose. At the moment, via PA, we can pose both arms hanging down, or we can have one arm pointing or on the head or something, but the other is left in the T or A pose. It would be nice to have a slider to put it somewhere out of the way.

    And of course, I'd like the above for G3 and G8, males and females!

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,179

    i bought this and just installed. i do not see any posing dials. where are they located? the only thiung i see is a script within utilities. 

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,680
    daveso said:

    i bought this and just installed. i do not see any posing dials. where are they located? the only thiung i see is a script within utilities. 

    They are pose controls. You'll need to click on the figure, go to the parameters, and locate the 3du pose dials.

     

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,179
    daveso said:

    i bought this and just installed. i do not see any posing dials. where are they located? the only thiung i see is a script within utilities. 

    They are pose controls. You'll need to click on the figure, go to the parameters, and locate the 3du pose dials.

     

    i had to close and reopen DS ..then, there they were... thanks. they seem somewhat limited or something, but the positioning is very natural looking. 

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Kitsumo said:

     

    Choppski said:

    I'm a little confused about pose architect. Is it a serious of poses? Pose dials? Is it for merchants? Does the utility save a pose you create? Any information appreciated.

     

    RAMWolff said:

    I was just going to ask the same thing.  This would be useful to published artists for sure but don't know if it's a merchant resource.  Be nice if Steve were to pop in here and let us know!  

    I was curious about that too. Could the PA or someone from Daz let us know? It doesn't say anything on the product page or readme page.

    You can save poses you create, after extracting them; I seem to recall it being useable as a MR, but could be mistaken.

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