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LOL..........hysterical.......I might have to make an eye patch just cuz you tickled my funny bone. :)
Ohhhh.....Bonnie and Clyde....I like that idea!
I'd like a modern looking eyepatch for a male character. Seems a useful item.
...A nice business casual suit
...Fireman's Clothing
...Police Uniform
...BDUs
...Military Flight Suit
...Work Coveralls
...Basic T-Shirt & Jeans
...Overalls (that layer with a Shirt or T-Shirt)
...Lab Coat (that layers with other clothing)
...London Fog type Trench Coat.
...Hats (Bowler, Fedora, Ski Cap, Ski Mask, Baseball Cap, Golf Cap, Fishing Hat, etc).
...and Shoes, (Casual, Dress, and Work) please.
...in general, an M4 Clone so we can at east use our Gen4 clothing as well.
Wrist watches, sunglasses (which we have enough of), wallets (open and shut) are what I think of when I think of men's accessories. And aviator's jackets. (with patches we can put on) Raincoats, both long and short with pocket flaps.
..oh, and a traditional WWII Bomber Jacket.
...A nice business casual suit
...Fireman's Clothing
...Police Uniform
...BDUs
...Military Flight Suit
...Work Coveralls
...Basic T-Shirt & Jeans
...Overalls (that layer with a Shirt or T-Shirt)
...Lab Coat (that layers with other clothing)
...London Fog type Trench Coat.
...Hats (Bowler, Fedora, Ski Cap, Ski Mask, Baseball Cap, Golf Cap, Fishing Hat, etc).
...and Shoes, (Casual, Dress, and Work) please.
overalls... (coveralls) slouched and held up by having sleeves tied around waist/hips... *WOOF*
A nice business casual suit - Have already made a pin stripe suit for Genesis
...Fireman’s Clothing - Too many different countries to cater for, so no to making that
...Police Uniform - Too many different countries to cater for, so no to making that
...BDUs - No idea what this is!
...Military Flight Suit - Too many different countries to cater for, so no to making that
...Work Coveralls - Possible
...Basic T-Shirt & Jeans - Have already made T-Shirts, Jeans, orinary shirst and jumpers, underwear, pyjamas etc.
...Overalls (that layer with a Shirt or T-Shirt) - Have already made overalls and shirt
...Lab Coat (that layers with other clothing) - Have already made a lab coat
...London Fog type Trench Coat. - Have already made a Trench Coat
...Hats (Bowler, Fedora, Ski Cap, Ski Mask, Baseball Cap, Golf Cap, Fishing Hat, etc). - Have made Golf Hats, Cowboy hat, Fencing mask, Cricket helmet, top Hat, etc
...and Shoes, (Casual, Dress, and Work) please. Have already made boots and shoes - mostly female, but some for men. Not easy to get shoes to fit all the different shapes though.
Most of these can be converted to G2M I would think.
Don't really have much to add I just feel something needs to be cleared up. I believe the individual that first posted about an 'eye patch' meant it as an euphemism for the type of tiny 'posing pouches' (a.k.a. 'banana hammocks') male bodybuilders wear during competitions.
Not for nothing, but I've stopped posting wish lists for male clothing. It goes nowhere and asking for variety falls on deaf ears. There is more than one style of suit, yet if one suit gets made that's considered good enough. Yet there are many multiples of women's clothing, many by the same vendor, where a minor detail is changed - one that could have been done with a trans-map and a new texture.
Here goes with my two cents. I don't do fantasy, I do more realistic real life stuff. Renders that represent now, not the past or future etc. Maybe I will catch some flack here.... Most of the little bit of clothes available for men I see on the market, looks gay. No dudes I know run around in skintight clothes..... Need more stuff that the average guy wears. Know what I mean? Sorry, if it was mentioned, didn't read the whole thread before responding.
I don't think the volume has to be equal, just the genres should match up for those who want both male and female in the same scene.
Michael 4 has almost everything--though it took many years to get there. Some will by necessity continue to use him if stuff for M6 is not forthcoming. That could hurt current sales for both the PAs and DAZ.
And, actually, Genesis for some genres can work as well. My plan is to stick with Genesis and M4 for quite a while. Though I've been purchasing a lot I'm getting sick and tired of these manic gimmick-ridden sales where I end up with stuff I probably won't use just because it's so cheap initially.
Aside from using the word "gay" in a pejorative sense, I understand what you are saying. It is similar for the females, however, that there is an abundance of slut-wear. I think that is just the nature of this community, so I don't expect the poser marketplace to reflect reality it its full variety. I do, however expect to see male items which look appropriate for the environment sets that are best-sellers such as Stonemason's. I am really glad to see that he is coming out with his own line of clothing.
As for sales figures, I still believe that poor sales of male items does not necessarily suggest that "people don't want male items" so much as it suggests that they don't want those particular items that are being offered. Listening to the voices of people who actually BUY this stuff might alter that statistic.
We also prefer to see the term Skimp wear rather than the one you used, as that also is somewhat perjorative.
I'd love to see some military/police outfits that are the same for the M'n'V so that you can actually see that they are in the same militia. That was great with G1 - you had a set of camo or nanosuit or hoplitewear or SWAT outfit or some other kind of uniform and you could fit it upon both genders undiscriminatory, and it was al clear that they were in it together. I hope for the same with G2.
Here's one outfit I love to see for both genders
And one for M6
Stereotypical maybe, not pejorative. Anyway, I am a country bluecollar guy, we don't wear skintight or skimpy clothes lol. Not males or females really.
Yeah, a huge chunk of woman's clothes are skimpy crap I don't buy either, but there is a plethora of clothes that are normal looking clothes. Not so in the male category :(
Thank you for the correction. I was unaware that "skimp" meant anything besides "skimp" if you get my meaning. Besides, isn't the word "slut"
supposed to be pejorative? Just my 2¢.
;-)
Stereotypical maybe, not pejorative. Anyway, I am a country bluecollar guy, we don't wear skintight or skimpy clothes lol. Not males or females really.
Yeah, a huge chunk of woman's clothes are skimpy crap I don't buy either, but there is a plethora of clothes that are normal looking clothes. Not so in the male category :(
Stereotypical LOL - it just gets better, doesn't it? Anyway, I may be gay but I agree with you bud. Real men (gay or straight) just wouldn't be caught dead in some of those outfits, Right? Give me a man in jeans and flannel and I'm happy. Oh wait... wasn't Robin Hood a real manly man? Didn't he wear tights with ummm... a codpiece? What was THAT all about? And what about Romeo who pined away for Juliet... wasn't he spied in panty-hose on occasion? Of course there was Atilla the Hun.. who wore long flowing robes of animal hide... and the Gladiators who wore miniskirts.
Oh dear, what am I saying... it's all so confusing. Maybe we should just stick to loincloths, huh?
If someone will produce one rigged where the flaps don't just follow the thighs, sure.
(oops. Wrong thread.)
Nope, it fits in this thread too. :) I was just going to post something along those lines.
And it also brings up the point, again, that it may not be "Menswear" doesn't sell. It may be that the items offered as menswear aren't the items desired. In this case, it's a simple case of poor rigging (granted, there are plenty of women's outfits that suffer this problem too) that we, as customers don't want to buy, and many of us aren't going to buy. The failure isn't that it's menswear, it's that the item is poorly rigged.
Nope, it fits in this thread too. :) I was just going to post something along those lines.
And it also brings up the point, again, that it may not be "Menswear" doesn't sell. It may be that the items offered as menswear aren't the items desired. In this case, it's a simple case of poor rigging (granted, there are plenty of women's outfits that suffer this problem too) that we, as customers don't want to buy, and many of us aren't going to buy. The failure isn't that it's menswear, it's that the item is poorly rigged.
Pretty much nails it for me. I always assess quality of the rigging before anything else. If its not rigged properly, I don't care what it is, I'm not buying it. Goes for both genders. If it is passable in terms of rigging I look at mesh detail next, textures after (That said tho if the mesh is good, I often make my own or modify custom textures anyway).
M6 in this Sting bikini?
I had no intention of becoming an old f*rt either, yet here I am. :cheese:
Seriously though, you fill a serious need for those unable to afford new content. Kudos.
Pretty much nails it for me. I always assess quality of the rigging before anything else. If its not rigged properly, I don't care what it is, I'm not buying it. Goes for both genders. If it is passable in terms of rigging I look at mesh detail next, textures after (That said tho if the mesh is good, I often make my own or modify custom textures anyway).
DITTO DITTO DITTO.
I don't think it's completely a lack of demand for male clothing, so much that not as much detail and concept goes into male clothing. I wish Valandar made a changeable armor set for Genesis like the Mecha set with varying pauldrons a mail shirt like hanging off maybe a half mail shirt that only hung down to the abs. There's a lot of things that could be done with Male clothing but it's hardly anything but shorts, pants, bodysuit, and loincloths superglued to the legs.
...BDU = Battle Dress Uniform - basically set of camo or khaki pants, shirt, jacket, and cap. No specific service branch logos needed as this style is also popular for casual and hunting wear.
For the flight suit just looking for a "generic" one no specific nationality or service branch. Flight suits tend to pretty much be the same cut and style (just like flight jackets).
For the fireman's clothing, just a basic US styled version, no logos necessary as those can be added by the user as long as there is a UV template (same for the flight suit and BDUs above).
The difficulty of converting between models is Autofit needs a clone figure to follow. At this point there is still some speculation over clothing for Genesis and G2F will crossfit to G2M without issues. Since all upper body G2F clothing requires accommodation for breasts that could pose mesh crumpling issues when having to lay flat which will affect the appearance of applied textures.
If I made a Fireman or Policeman uniform it would be British, not American, sorry. There is too much out there now that is American and those of us in Britain don't see much for our services. Same goes for Army and Navy Uniforms. I would make British ones only I'm afraid..
Whe I said could be converted to G2M, I meant I could rerig them to the base when he is out.
...OK wasn't sure as when some talk of converting it involves the user having to make the conversion.
Actually British versions of the policeman and fireman as well as RAF/RN flight suits would be perfect.
As I also mentioned later an old WWII styled pilot's jacket would be nice. RAF again would be perfect as there are a number of different free and commercial WWII British fighter and bomber models available (I have several myself).
Actually, if you are willing and can manage to find the time to get G2M a decent WWII RAF uniform, flight suit and jacket by next November, I might take another crack at my failed Pulp Adventure novel for NaNo2014. :) (NaNo2013 is already in progress and is a cross between Kung Fu (the old tv show) and Street Fighter (the video game).)