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So what's with the use of the word "prowdly" in the Gallery banner? Is this some kind of pun or something I'm missing?
Prowling means peeking, so it might be...
The areas for giving credits, programs used, notes, etc. is available for the images. You have to open the thumbnail to see that info, and the artist has to have entered it in, but the feature is there already. I do agree about the flooding of images thing, but I think it will die down a bit once people have done the initial populating of their galleries. This might also explain why so much info is missing. If you are uploading 30 images to your new gallery, you might not feel like filling that stuff out. When people are submitting one or two finished renders, they will likely take more time to provide that information.
I clicked on a ton of images, saw no info for any of them, so i guess no one's putting any info on them :(
honestly wouldn't mind an upload limit or at least a front page limit. As i said, i like to see a mix of images on the front page, not just one person who keeps uploading a whole ton at once.
Yeah, I remember that being a problem on ZBrush Central for a long time. The mods finally figured out a way to curb it, but I'm not sure what they did. I think they just added an extra row of thumbnails and made it so that only your first image would show there.
Just so you can see one that is definitely filled in, type Slosh in the artist search box and open one of my images. They are all populated with info (the DAZ ones and the Lux ones, not the "other software" ones)
Also would be great if the gallery page had a link to the TOS. Far as I can tell (and obviously, some uploaders, too) nudity seems to be allowed in the gallery, unlike in the forums.
It is stated in the TOS that it applies to both the Galleries and the Forum. If you see images that do contain nudity etc do please click the report button. That is the exclamation mark, top right of the image.
thing is there is no clear link on the galleries to a TOS, and furthermore the only thing you see that is remotely related is teh contest gallery submission "terms" which again don't link to a TOS. I think the gallery page NEEDS a link on the front page to the TOS, otherwise, people maybe coming to Daz just for the galleries, may not know it. And like me seeing no TOS also thought maybe it had its own rules. Please flag that to the higher ups Chohole! :)
OK. So getting back to the original post by Rashad Carter ....
"Do the galleries include images rendered in DS only"?
I am guess YES because it is called "User Galleries"?
Are images created in DAZ Studio ONLY permitted? Are images created via any other software permitted in the gallery?
I DID see absolutely NO NUDITY mentioned by someone along the way as I perused this post but, what is DAZ's definition of nudity? I know that at one site just seeing a character's butt is nudity. But this must not be the case here since one can see character's butts in the promo images in the store.
Where can we find specifics on the rules?
Doesn't the same rule apply as the forums about nudity. I don't really like looking through the gallery not knowing what may be popping up on the screen especially if I am showing someone else like my grandchildren the type of work I can do in this program
Yes the same rules apply to the gallery as in the forums. If you see one that violates TOS then please report it.
Again, Frank, it's practical and necessary to add a link to the TOS on the gallery main page. It's too easy to miss and not easy enough to actually find. Not everyone would consider going to the forum to find rules for the gallery.
That's because I personally flagged at least three and told them about five others when I couldn't access the gallery. People have been up to their eyeballs reporting stuff I'm sure. The stuff I reported was only on two pages.
I already reported that too, about 12 hours ago.
Again, Frank, it's practical and necessary to add a link to the TOS on the gallery main page. It's too easy to miss and not easy enough to actually find. Not everyone would consider going to the forum to find rules for the gallery.
I agree. I don't even know what TOS means, let alone where to find it.:) Sorry. Not all out there know all these abbreviations.
Also, what about the other question about software? Renders to made in DS ONLY?
OK. So getting back to the original post by Rashad Carter ....
"Do the galleries include images rendered in DS only"?
I am guess YES because it is called "User Galleries"?
Are images created in DAZ Studio ONLY permitted? Are images created via any other software permitted in the gallery?
I DID see absolutely NO NUDITY mentioned by someone along the way as I perused this post but, what is DAZ's definition of nudity? I know that at one site just seeing a character's butt is nudity. But this must not be the case here since one can see character's butts in the promo images in the store.
Where can we find specifics on the rules?
MrEstey is your third question referring to only DAZ Studio or any DAZ software? I ask because I've uploaded some of my Bryce 7.1 Pro images to the Gallery without any problems.
Also, if you check on the List of products used Bryce 7 and Carrara feature. If you click to say you used Bryce 7 pro, it tends to give you an automatic Bryce tag, without having to manually add one.
Daz 3D has no intention of restricting the Galleries to just DS, there are a good many images uploaded already that are obviously Poser renders.
Like Guss, mine are all Bryce renders, strangely enough.
edited to add TOS is Terms Of Service, and the Daz 3D TOS is found here http://www.daz3d.com/terms-of-service
The link is in this announcement thread at the top of all forums http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/32044_97/
Excellent! Thanks a bunch Chohole!:-)
But again Chohole, people may very well not not know...they may come to the gallery, and think, well I dont use the forums, i just want to use the gallery" and therefore not see it. And even then most will not make the connection that the Forum Tos has the rules for the gallerytoo. It's absolutely essential to add the link for Gallery rules to the Gallery main page. If its not easy to find WHERE YOU NEED IT (in this case, in the Gallery, where it applies) you can' really blame people for uploading stuff against the TOS.
Agree - if you actually go and look at the gallery you will see a lot of images which apparently break the TOS. I would guess from looking at the artists names that they have no idea that there are any rules against nudity.
already reported 3 or 4 images..by now you would think people know this is a family friendly site which is why I use it predominately over some others and would post those images where allowed. Yes it is art but needs to be displayed where allowed.
Some people will always push the limits of the rules.
I agree. I don't even know what TOS means, let alone where to find it.:) Sorry. Not all out there know all these abbreviations.
Also, what about the other question about software? Renders to made in DS ONLY?
The rules are in the TOS and the EULA that you agreed to to use the gallery.
I agree. I don't even know what TOS means, let alone where to find it.:) Sorry. Not all out there know all these abbreviations.
Also, what about the other question about software? Renders to made in DS ONLY?
The rules are in the TOS and the EULA that you agreed to to use the gallery.
You make it sound like you have to agree to a TOS or EULA before using the gallery. But when you start using the gallery, you are NOT shown the TOS first, or the EULA. MOst galleries show you rules when you sign up for the gallery. Or have it on your uploads page. Or at the very least, have a link to the TOS on the Gallery main page. It's common sense. Going to find Gallery rules in the forums (where one would, and very practically, assume it is a forum-only TOS, and may not read it if they only want the galleries and not the forums). Furthermore, they may not even own a Daz product- which means they may not have had the TOS shoved in their face like many folks have had when they try to access their downloads. That means Daz is not doing enough to show people the rules. As I said before, and will keep saying, the RULES NEED TO BE ON THE GALLERY MAIN PAGE. Or a LINK. Where it is clearly visible!
I just tested, to make sure- uploading to the gallery, never do I see the TOS linked to or shown anywhere.
Main Gallery Page: add TOS link. REALLY simple. ESSENTIAL.
The new EULA and TOS were posted in the forums as an announcement on the 7th before the galleries went live on the 13th. The same day it was announced you had to agree to a new EULA if you went to your product Library or used DIM. http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/32034_4/
But again, Frank, that is JUST IN THE FORUM. How many people don't use the forum? Actually, a lot. There's been time I've gone months without looking in teh forums here. And you're missing the point. The TOS and rules need to be WHERE THEY APPLY. That is, if they apply to the gallery, there needs to be a link ON THE GALLERY page. Tellign people to hunt for extra rules outside the galleries is, IMO, rather like telling people to find the doorbell to the front door (but the doorbell is in the mailbox).
It is plain, simple common sense. Gallery rules and TOS should be linked to from the Gallery page, or be on the page where people upload.
Furthermore, while you can flag inappropriate images, there's no way to flag an inappropriate banner, and that is a big oversight- already a sex act banner pic.
Lastly, its very very clear that people are NOT seeing the TOS. It's all very well to keep shouting in the forums, "HEY HEY THE RULES ARE HERE! IN THE FORUM! COME READ ME! OR BUY SOMETHING, THEN GO DOWNLOAD IT< SO YOU CAN READ THE EULA!" is kind of effective when people don't naturally come here to find rules (that belong on the gallery main page). Like I said, if its not where people expect to find the rules, they won't see them. And you'llg et what we have today- a lot of art with sexual stuff going on, banners with sexual stuff going on, and all kinds of inappropriate stuff- because the rules aren't in plain sight on the gallery page. And yea, I know. there's going to be some rule breakers, always. But there's some very careful artists I know, who are simply more used to rules at other galleries where nudity is allowed, and probably overlooked that Daz has different rules. As Daz is the different one- not the norm for gallery rules- it only stands to reason, that Daz has ZERO REASON to NOT put rules on the Gallery page, and EVERY REASON to put them there.
EULA and TOS don't seem to mean much to some folks: Let's get the porno out of the main gallery so I can look at it without getting thrown out of the coffee shops! PLEASE! and thanks.
Unless you are going to make it clear what the restrictions of the gallery are and enforce them yourselves you can't expect people to follow something they are unaware of. There are a lot of people uploading images many of whom might never frequent the forums.
You also should not be expecting others to report images that break the TOS I won't not after last time, someone should be checking the gallery on a regular basis, people have been saying about the nudity for hours now - nothing seems to have been removed- its not difficult to find, now things are getting even worse.
I highly suggest, at least in the beginning, an upload limit. Not only does this keep people from filling the gallery main page with just one person's work, but it A: maintains the inflow for moderators to handle more easily in the outset of the new galleries, B: makes it a bit easier to screen, and C: prevents the issue of a person uploading 10+ sex scene images to the gallery at once...
also note that people can avoid being reported by using the banner to hold their inappropriate image, because you can't report a banner.
And yeah, as Scorpio said, if you want people to follow rules, it needs to be where the rules apply.
If you go into a swimming pool, would they hang the rules for the pool by the vending machine? or by the phone? No, the rules are right at the front of the pool, and probably on both sides and both ends and on the floor and on the edges of the pool too! The gallery should be the same.