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ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
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Had anyone tried this?, is doable or is impossible?, is my resignation hire a Zbrush artist for $500 USD to do that morph?

any tip is valuable for me, I post the photo to achieve or search for "Sakura Miyawaki" for more references.

 

 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,583
    edited June 2021

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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    no faces in DAZ store near enough?

    I reckon you could tweak her myself
    https://www.daz3d.com/lancy-character-with-dforce-hair-and-expressions-for-genesis-8-female

    hate to say it but those K pop singers have had a lot of work and makeup

    I have Lancy and many others asian female assets, going to try some, thanks for the advice!

    regardless I'm open to other suggestions, this is not the end.

     

  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    hate to say it but those K pop singers have had a lot of work and makeup

    hahaha you are right but they can not morph in an alien or gorilla like G8 does!!

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,583
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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,401
    edited April 2020

    It looks pretty good from the front. You might get it slighter better if you edited the photo image, removing the glasses and hair from the face. [I'm not sure but from your post I'm thinking you used Face Transfer.]

    For a better 3D morph, this is the companion product which was an instant buy for many [including me] when it came out:

    https://www.daz3d.com/face-transfer-shapes-for-genesis-8

    It corrects the flatness aspect of the profiles. Plus it has some extra morphs.

     

     

     

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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385

    and ladies and gentlemen...all gone trash!!

  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    she actually reminds me of Paragon Shinbi who I have as an Unreal engine asset

    wow you imported to Unreal?, cool! she looks great

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,583
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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    Catherine3678ab said:

    It looks pretty good from the front. You might get it slighter better if you edited the photo image, removing the glasses and hair from the face. [I'm not sure but from your post I'm thinking you used Face Transfer.

    I don't have the paid version of Face transfer, considering that the free version does not create optimum results...

  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    no I don't even actually own the one I linked

    that is just Paragon Shinbi in Unreal who I thought resembles your Kpop singer

    and yeah, DAZ studio loves playing crashy crash crash whenever I work on something and haven't saved

    working in iray viewport with my card is asking for it!

    fortunately for me I saved the file, I am following your idea of using other characters mixing formulas, still not Sakura but now I have a fine character for my library

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633

    I have facegen, if you want I could try to see what the result is from facegen? I'd need a good picture, evenly lit, front and side without glasses.

  • kwanniekwannie Posts: 869

    Here is girl you posted in Face Gen. Needs cleaning up to get rid of glasses and bangs, easily done in Gimp or Photoshop.

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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    Paintbox said:

    I have facegen, if you want I could try to see what the result is from facegen? I'd need a good picture, evenly lit, front and side without glasses.

    Hi!, the free facegen version gives non similar results. crying

  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    kwannie said:

    Here is girl you posted in Face Gen. Needs cleaning up to get rid of glasses and bangs, easily done in Gimp or Photoshop.

    I have other pictures with no glasses but no FaceGen Artist Pro

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,187
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    hate to say it but those K pop singers have had a lot of work and makeup

     

    WendyLuvsCatz said:
    Zilvergrafix said:
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    she actually reminds me of Paragon Shinbi who I have as an Unreal engine asset

    wow you imported to Unreal?, cool! she looks great

    that is just Paragon Shinbi in Unreal who I thought resembles your Kpop singer

     

    She’s not a K-pop singer, and it isn’t only because she isn’t Korean. 

  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130

    I know that @TritiumCG does very good custom modeling for like 50$ or so. He also has a freebie thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/373931/tritiumcg-freebie-thread#latest.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,583
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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    edited April 2020
    Gordig said:

    She’s not a K-pop singer, and it isn’t only because she isn’t Korean. 

    Off topic: she sings, yep, not Korean but Japanese on a Korean idol group named IZ*ONE.

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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    edited April 2020
    alex86fire said:

    I know that @TritiumCG does very good custom modeling for like 50$ or so. He also has a freebie thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/373931/tritiumcg-freebie-thread#latest.

    Ok I´m checking the page, thanks for the help laugh

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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385

    I´m trying another tecnique

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,029
    Zilvergrafix said:

    Had anyone tried this?, is doable or is impossible?, is my resignation hire a Zbrush artist for $500 USD to do that morph?

    any tip is valuable for me, I post the photo to achieve or search for "Sakura Miyawaki" for more references.

     

     

     on this picture I think you are very close mouth corners need to be turned down just a bit and mouth height raised up just a bit as well but I think the eyes are spot on and the face shape is right . but that's just my view .

  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    carrie58 said:

     on this picture I think you are very close mouth corners need to be turned down just a bit and mouth height raised up just a bit as well but I think the eyes are spot on and the face shape is right . but that's just my view .

    that file was missed on the DS crash. Then I redone from scratch and was entirely different my approach

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,316
    Zilvergrafix said:

    I´m trying another tecnique

    I have facegen but am unsure at the legality of sharing a morph made with it for other tthan my own use. The three pictures you post about look low contrast and too much hair on the forehead to give the best automated FaceGen results.

  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130
    nonesuch00 said:
    Zilvergrafix said:

    I´m trying another tecnique

    I have facegen but am unsure at the legality of sharing a morph made with it for other tthan my own use. The three pictures you post about look low contrast and too much hair on the forehead to give the best automated FaceGen results.

    Since it isn't listed as a Merchant resource I believe you cannot legally share a morph made with it, regardless if it wouldn't be for money.

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,029
    edited April 2020

    I used Face Transfer and the add on for it to do this ,used GIMP to get the hair off her forehead   and then ended up useing brow remover ,to get rid of her brows ,

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  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    nonesuch00 said:

    I have facegen but am unsure at the legality of sharing a morph made with it for other tthan my own use. The three pictures you post about look low contrast and too much hair on the forehead to give the best automated FaceGen results.

     

    yep is illegal, but just share your result!!,

    if you convince me (or facegen convince me) I could buy the software. wink

  • ZilvergrafixZilvergrafix Posts: 1,385
    carrie58 said:

    I used Face Transfer and the add on for it to do this ,used GIMP to get the hair off her forehead   and then ended up useing brow remover ,to get rid of her brows ,

    maybe if you (we) use other photos, I have a lot more.

    I´m experimenting with such photos  too.

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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited April 2020
    Zilvergrafix said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    I have facegen but am unsure at the legality of sharing a morph made with it for other tthan my own use. The three pictures you post about look low contrast and too much hair on the forehead to give the best automated FaceGen results.

     

    yep is illegal, but just share your result!!,

    if you convince me (or facegen convince me) I could buy the software. wink

    No, it is perfectly legal to share the morph made by Facegen! it is right there in Facegen's legal section:

    https://facegen.com/artist_legal.htm

    "Legal

    Texture images, morph targets and FaceGen '.fg' files created with Artist are yours to distribute."

    And of course this would have been cleared by Daz's legal team in order for Facegen to post it. So its cool! You also share the .fg file too, so people can use the .fg file to create their own version from their own copy of Facegen.

    So its fine. There are people at ShareCG that share their Facegen created faces. One is Dumbuser. He has a bunch of really cool Facegen people up.

    I'd love to see some kind of sharing thread for Facegen creations. It should be its own thread.

    I believe Face Transfer allows it as well, but I cannot find the readme file or any info on it. Perhaps somebody could chime in on this for clarification. 

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  • DarkSpartanDarkSpartan Posts: 1,096

    Hrmmm... I'll grab one of the pics and see what I can do with MRs. Probably cost me some time in Maya LT, but I might be able to pull it off.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,746
    Zilvergrafix said:
    carrie58 said:

     on this picture I think you are very close mouth corners need to be turned down just a bit and mouth height raised up just a bit as well but I think the eyes are spot on and the face shape is right . but that's just my view .

    that file was missed on the DS crash. Then I redone from scratch and was entirely different my approach

     

    Wow, That looks awesome! :)

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