What happened to my Install Manager links? Daz Central only.
Leonides02
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Now when I purchase a product there's not link to install with Install Manager. There's only Daz Central, which I don't want or need (seems like a waste of big waste development time, to be honest).
Am I missing something?
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I have never used the ability to download content with DIM via links on the website, so I don't know. I've always used it as a bulk downloader that didn't require having the browser running.
Have you had DAZ Central installed? I don't, and I do have DIM links in the library.
I do not. Specifically I'm talking about the "Check Out" page.
Before it was easy to click on the link. DIM opened automatically and filtered out everything but my most recent purchase.
You can still start DIM, and poof, there are your downloads. (I hope... I haven't downloaded my recent purchases in a few days.)
I understand, but clicking on the link used to automatically filter them out in DIM. That was very helpful as I don't download everything I buy right away.
If people like the new Daz Central for whatever reason, great - but add a third option, don't take away another.
For some reason Daz is promoting Daz Central as the main download option - why I do not know.
DIM is serving my needs, and I have no plans to change that.
You can set the sort order to Order Date, which will put the new items at the top of the list (it's per tab, so you can use a different order in Ready to Install and/or Installed)..
Just set DIM Sort Order to "Order Date: Recent First" on the Ready to Download tab, then all items from the latest order will be on top of the list.
I noticed that yesterday, too. Kind of irritating. Clicking that link after checkout was quick and convenient. I have no interest in DAZ Central and will continue to use DIM. I also agree that they shouldn't remove an existing feature just to promote a new one. They should add the link to download and install with DIM back, along side the DAZ Central link.
There's a problem with the Daz site links after the release of the new installer.
If you download the Mac version of the new install, it works if you install ONE at a time, but if you click the install all button to download all your purchases, it takes you do the download site for the new version rather than actually installing. This happens with both the Daz Central link and the Mac Installer link.
I already have the new version. I don't have to install it again.
Because the link is broken (in an endless circle), I had to download about 50 assets one at a time and I'm not finished yet. It's very time-consuming.
Perhaps the DAZ team should ask for some advice from the people handling the move from Google Play Music to YouTube Music.
I bought a new computer so I could use DForce. I thought I would try DazCentral on that computer. I appreciate the links to the tutorials and the Plug ins. Instead of being able to Download and Install an entire order, I notice my recent purchases are listed. However unlike the Install Manager I would have to download and install them individually. I installed one and clicked on open. Daz Studio opened up, but the character I wanted to load didn't load. So... I uninstalled DazCentral but I noticed that I must have it installed in order to download the entire order. And on the older computer that I don't think Daz Central will work well on it, I notice it also won't install the entire order without DazCentral.
As for loading the Install Manager and putting the recent items up first. I have a lot of old Poser items that are listed. So I have to click each item I want individually.
If it seems like I dislike DazCentral, it's because I do.
Yeah, I think I'm in that same boat.
DIM disappears, so do I.
I trust DIM to do what it says. I have al sorts of reservations about Smart Content, and now DazCentral.
DIM, as an acronym works; it's meaning is succinct - and it does manage my installs.
Daz Central sounds (and behaves) like big brother.
Studio 4.9 felt like Daz was trying to force something down my throat; this feels the same.
Daz Central is DIM with a simplified interface and option tree, for the benefit of new users.
But why does it mess with DIM and cause problems for DIM users.
Why not just add the new features to an updated version of DIM? We now have four different methods for installing the same content. Do we really need that many?
Because it is DIM and so the settings are common, at least in some cases, and so Daz Central setting the defaults overwrites any custom path settings in DIM.
Because, as I understand it, the issue was too many options cionfusing new users - adding more options would have made matters worse. I don't know why, assuming it was considered, a basic new-user interface with an advanced mode available for those who need it was not used - though I can see one possibility, that experience suggested a lot of people would turn the Advanced mode on without needing it and still confuse themselves.
Is there any reason that this wasn't mentioned when they introduced Central and asked for us to try it?
I understand the need for simplicity, but as you pointed out: too many options confuse new (and old) users. And we now have four options for installing content. Whichever you choose, that's three more than what anyone will use. :D
Anyway, I'm sticking with DIM for now, so nothing changes.
i tried Central for a brief time..it wouldn;t work..could not find DS...I uninstalled it. Now DIM and DS are messed up. I think I have DIM fixed, but DS cannot find my content. I've tried multiple directories...nothing.
None of that explains the removal of options for DIM users.
I would think it is because, if the idea is to avoid confusing new users, giving a choice of two ways to download would be counter-productive.
And so what am I?
But there are still three ways for them to download, if we don't count DIM. There's one built right into Daz Studio, and they can manually download the files. Plus the new method. Same as before, with DIM.
I thought we were talking about the order page? As far as I can see DIM is still available elsewhere
An alternative simplified and visual interface for DIM would have solved any issues that Central is supose to "fix". As in Basic/Advance interface user choice, but same core.
Adding yet another tool that messes with stuff of other tools is a recipe for disaster.
DIM is being obfuscated, and even more to new users. I'm relative new, and fortunatelly was offered DIM so i can easily install stuff i buy whenever i choose to open it and make a bulk install. If i had been offered central, my experience would not have been good at all, because it requres it do one item at a time. Also you are only presented easy access to new stuff if you only purchased in the last day or so.
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can we also please have an open discussion of what DAZ central means for your customers who don't just use DAZ studio.
As a Carrara user I have recieved no answers and am not willing to break the use of snart content and content in general in Carrara to beta test it
I just noticed the new Frontier Outpost from Stonemason only says "Central" in the "Install Types" category. And it's the only item I have seen like that so far.
I'm hoping it's a mistake but I'm not buying that until I'm sure. Will wait until this is clarified before saying more but if it's indeed the case.... oooh boy....