Anyone Know Where I can purchase this Space Craft/Object???

Hi Everyone,

I really would like to purchase the white space craft/ object on the left, in the DAZCentral promo ad. I cannot find it anywhere.
Does anyone know where I can buy it?

Thanks,

Eric

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  • Since it's a movie model (OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS, HAL!!!!), I expected it to be in sharecg as a freebie... and there it is.

    https://www.sharecg.com/v/57764/related/5/3D-Model/EVA-Pod

  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,618

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

  • Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    In their defense, it was over 50 years ago.

  • Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    TIE Fighter? Oh Lord, give me strength. wink

    I remember the scenes from the movie, with HAL locking out Bowman from the Discovery...
    So, I searched on "Pod", and I found it in shareCG.

    Of course, it's Marvel super heroes and all that these days. Someday, someone won't understand when they say, "Mister Stark, I don't feel so good".

    cheeky

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,503
    Sevrin said:
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    This is the big problem of living in a Postmodern world.  I remember asking young co-workers about what they thought Raiders of the Lost Ark was about.  For someone like me, it is a film about other films; i remember the opening scenes which reference a Charleton Heston movie for example.  Your own question assumes that the reader doesn't think that Buster Keaton wasn't that old guy who played Batman and that the Lumière brothers weren't the candlesticks in the animated Beauty and the Beast movies.  It would be a shame if people had no sense of the history of film.

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    While I love the film, it is 52 years old and has several really ponderous scenes that are pretty sure to turn off most modern viewers.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    nemesis10 said:
    Sevrin said:
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    This is the big problem of living in a Postmodern world.  I remember asking young co-workers about what they thought Raiders of the Lost Ark was about.  For someone like me, it is a film about other films; i remember the opening scenes which reference a Charleton Heston movie for example.  Your own question assumes that the reader doesn't think that Buster Keaton wasn't that old guy who played Batman and that the Lumière brothers weren't the candlesticks in the animated Beauty and the Beast movies.  It would be a shame if people had no sense of the history of film.

    You're ignoring the fact that we are now living in a different time. 

    Back when 2001 came out, there weren't a dozen streaming services bringing out a hundred new episodes of fairly decent quality television every week.  Nobody knows every show worth watching that was released in the past moth, nevermind stuff that came out 50 years ago.  When I was a teenager, I had a least a passing familiarity of almost every artist in the top 40.  You'd have to dedicate your life to nothing but that today, since there are new artists on the charts every week.  Information overload is an actual thing in every area of life, and if young people today aren't interested in tropes of the past, it's because there are not enough hours in the day.

  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,760
    edited June 2020
    Sevrin said:
    nemesis10 said:
    Sevrin said:
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    This is the big problem of living in a Postmodern world.  I remember asking young co-workers about what they thought Raiders of the Lost Ark was about.  For someone like me, it is a film about other films; i remember the opening scenes which reference a Charleton Heston movie for example.  Your own question assumes that the reader doesn't think that Buster Keaton wasn't that old guy who played Batman and that the Lumière brothers weren't the candlesticks in the animated Beauty and the Beast movies.  It would be a shame if people had no sense of the history of film.

    You're ignoring the fact that we are now living in a different time. 

    Back when 2001 came out, there weren't a dozen streaming services bringing out a hundred new episodes of fairly decent quality television every week.  Nobody knows every show worth watching that was released in the past moth, nevermind stuff that came out 50 years ago.  When I was a teenager, I had a least a passing familiarity of almost every artist in the top 40.  You'd have to dedicate your life to nothing but that today, since there are new artists on the charts every week.  Information overload is an actual thing in every area of life, and if young people today aren't interested in tropes of the past, it's because there are not enough hours in the day.

    Or because 2001: A Space Odyssey is boring as hades. I watched it when I was a teenager, and thought it dragged on for far too long.

    Post edited by zombietaggerung on
  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    Since it's a movie model (OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS, HAL!!!!), I expected it to be in sharecg as a freebie... and there it is.

    https://www.sharecg.com/v/57764/related/5/3D-Model/EVA-Pod

    Thanks for the reminder, I hadn't got round to converting this to D|S and Iray yet. Just did that, and it looks great.

    Except... the "Bulb" material doesn't seem to light anything up. I've set the glass and headlight chrome materials, but there's not the faintest glow even when I crank the Bulb up to 11. Could someone check to see if there's anything odd about the mesh? The "HAL Eye" glows nicely when I set that up.

    And of course, I'd love to see an interior... and fully rigged arms and hatch... and the spacesuit... andandand

  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,618

    If were something from a 50s "B" movie like "Queen of Outer Space", yeah, sure, only vintage film buffs (and maybe fans of MST3K) would recall stuff like that, but "2001" (even for those who claim it boring) has created some of the most memorable memes that still get bounced around on a regular basis even today.  Like the opening chords of "Thus Spake Zarathustra", the enlightened ape tossing the femur into the air (sequing to an orbital nuclear launch platform), the freakin' Monolith, or the cold, dispassionate cyclops style lens of HALand his chilling phrase "I'm I afraid I can't do that, Dave', or the (in)famous "stargate" sequence that inspired later hyperdrive SPX  Bloody, hell, it laid the groundwork for hyper detailed miniature ship designs later imitated in a certain lil' flick called bleedin' "STAR WARS"!

    Oy, vey!

  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,760

    Time marches on, mate. Things that were popular in the past aren't now, and things that are popular now won't be popular in the future. Thus is life. The only constant is change.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,192
    nemesis10 said:
    Sevrin said:
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    This is the big problem of living in a Postmodern world.  I remember asking young co-workers about what they thought Raiders of the Lost Ark was about.  For someone like me, it is a film about other films; i remember the opening scenes which reference a Charleton Heston movie for example.  Your own question assumes that the reader doesn't think that Buster Keaton wasn't that old guy who played Batman and that the Lumière brothers weren't the candlesticks in the animated Beauty and the Beast movies.  It would be a shame if people had no sense of the history of film.

    This might be the most incorrect usage of the word "postmodern" I've ever seen, and that's a field with some stiff competition.

  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 787

    I love movies. I even study filming for 2 years.

    I love sci-fi. Sometimes even a couple things that are on the hardcore(ish) side (like Asimov novels).

    But that movie....let's just say i can't keep my eyes open after the first part. That space vals after an already long intro angry

    Yes i know, the cool stuff comes later, but at the time i'm finally awake from my nap the movie is already in the lsd inspired ending.

     

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,503
    Gordig said:
    nemesis10 said:
    Sevrin said:
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    This is the big problem of living in a Postmodern world.  I remember asking young co-workers about what they thought Raiders of the Lost Ark was about.  For someone like me, it is a film about other films; i remember the opening scenes which reference a Charleton Heston movie for example.  Your own question assumes that the reader doesn't think that Buster Keaton wasn't that old guy who played Batman and that the Lumière brothers weren't the candlesticks in the animated Beauty and the Beast movies.  It would be a shame if people had no sense of the history of film.

    This might be the most incorrect usage of the word "postmodern" I've ever seen, and that's a field with some stiff competition.

    You are correct.  I was using the term is a very narrow context that I should have explained.  The reference which I should have quoted was on that is a joke in the visual world. In 1988, Spy Magazine (probably most famous now for the taunting of Donald Trump) published a satire called "A Spy  Guide to Post Modern Everything" which suggested the Post Modern movement in the visual arrts were a reaction to abstraction and an unintentional attempt to "reference" everything i.e. a post modern building that looked like a simplified classical structure.  The article came with a foldable paper pyramid that you could fold and place on things to make them instantly "Post Modern".

    Going back to the original topic, in the modern world, an artist is expected to have a basic knowledge of art history and pop culture if they want to avoid being sued.  That particular model  is a pretty much exact copy of a vehicle from 2001 (a film I saw twice on its opening day!) and is owned currently by Disney who have been known to protect their intellectual property from time to time.  Yes, one can't be expected to know everything about everything, but, if you hope to put artwork out in public, you are expected to vet your intellectual property.

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,939
    Sevrin said:

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    Yes.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,056

    I just saw 2001 about three years ago and didn't recognize that model. Maybe some people are geekier than others when it comes to remembering sci-fi vehicles...

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,046
    Sevrin said:
    Redfern said:
    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    Love Buster Keaton. All down hill since the talkies.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749
    Sevrin said:
    nemesis10 said:
    Sevrin said:
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    So what now?  Are people supposed to be familiar with every movie trope dating back to Buster Keaton or maybe the Lumière brothers?

    This is the big problem of living in a Postmodern world.  I remember asking young co-workers about what they thought Raiders of the Lost Ark was about.  For someone like me, it is a film about other films; i remember the opening scenes which reference a Charleton Heston movie for example.  Your own question assumes that the reader doesn't think that Buster Keaton wasn't that old guy who played Batman and that the Lumière brothers weren't the candlesticks in the animated Beauty and the Beast movies.  It would be a shame if people had no sense of the history of film.

    You're ignoring the fact that we are now living in a different time. 

    Back when 2001 came out, there weren't a dozen streaming services bringing out a hundred new episodes of fairly decent quality television every week.  Nobody knows every show worth watching that was released in the past moth, nevermind stuff that came out 50 years ago.  When I was a teenager, I had a least a passing familiarity of almost every artist in the top 40.  You'd have to dedicate your life to nothing but that today, since there are new artists on the charts every week.  Information overload is an actual thing in every area of life, and if young people today aren't interested in tropes of the past, it's because there are not enough hours in the day.

    Or because 2001: A Space Odyssey is boring as hades. I watched it when I was a teenager, and thought it dragged on for far too long.

    I agree. I love sci-fi movies and shows, but I couldn't make it through that movie. I tried to watch it a couple of times but ended up just really bored and couldn't continue it. I THINK as a sci-fi lover I'm "supposed" to like it, or at least hold it in some high regard, but whatever. I've never held to the belief that there should be some kind of litmus test in order to be considered a "true fan" of a genre. 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,681
    edited June 2020
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    In their defense, it was over 50 years ago.

    Wizard of Oz was 81 years ago.  Is the Tin Man now just a poorly designed robot?sad  The Cowardly Lion just a fantastic furry?

    OMG 81 years! surprise

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,681
    edited June 2020
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    TIE Fighter? Oh Lord, give me strength. wink

    I remember the scenes from the movie, with HAL locking out Bowman from the Discovery...
    So, I searched on "Pod", and I found it in shareCG.

    Of course, it's Marvel super heroes and all that these days. Someday, someone won't understand when they say, "Mister Stark, I don't feel so good".

    cheeky

    "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!"wink

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057

    The 2010 sequel had better 'pacing' as far as attention spans go.  For me, I like both movies, mainly for the model work and set work.  Admittedly, the pacing on the first movie is lethargic compared to other movies of the era.  Some people didn't like the sequel either though.

    I had never thought of a TIE fighter as an EVA pod with hexagonal panels slapped on until this thread...  Now I cant unsee it!

    EVA pods came first, Lucas rips off Kubrick.  Are we surprised?  OK yeah some model maker ripped off some other model maker, but yeah...

    For those of you that lose interest and give up mid-movie, I recommend putting 2001 on in the background as you work, looking up occasionally when the dialogue or soundtrack pick up.  That way, you can at least watch the 'classic' scenes from the tail end of the movie (star child, the 'drug induced' sfx sequence, Bowman vs HAL, etc.) so that you'll have at least seen the 'source material' for the parody references in the Simpsons, etc...  It'll still be a bit ponderous, but then you can say 'I made it to the end at least' - The end does get a bit 'trippy'...

    In any case, I love both of these movies mainly for their attention to Newtonian physics and the ship designs.  And the 'centrifuge' sections for artificial gravity.  So much science fiction glosses over that whole gravity, or lack thereof thing, or just 'assumes' that gravity plating at a 90 degree angle from the 'thrust plane' is a thing, lack of efficiency aside...  I still watch it though, just groan a bit inside.  And yeah , I still love how Star Furies and the reboot Vipers make Newtonian combat look cool!

    On a slightly unrelated note, I tried binge watching The Expanse recently, but it just wasn't grabbing me for whatever reason.  May give it another go at some point.

    cheeky

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,681
    edited June 2020

    While I love the film, it is 52 years old and has several really ponderous scenes that are pretty sure to turn off most modern viewers.

    Yeah, ponderous.  Good word.  Although I loved the movie,  Saw it twice in big (BIG) screen Cinerama theaters.  In college I rode a Greyhound bus 60 miles to Orlando to see it in the "Orange" theater.  Then during school break I dragged my parents 60 miles to see it in Buffalo at the Shea's Theater.  The fact that I remember the names of those theaters in cities hours away from me, is an indication of the impression it made on me.

    But in defense of the ponderocity of the movie.  It was perfect for the atmosphere intended.  And people back then could sit still for hours without checking their phone or opening their mouth.  And at the time, the special effects were out of this world and never before seen in three projector, super-wide, curved screen Cinerama.  It was like a Disney EPCOT ride for two and half hours (14 years before EPCOT).  It's the point where my dad finally grasped what outerspace was all about and appreciated even more, the fact that I was in college studying to be in that field, just down the road from the Kennedy Space Center at a college taught by personnel from the space center.  Seeing it in your livingroom on TV is no comparison, even on a 72" flat screen. The original showings of "2001" were an experience.

     

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Ryuu@AMcCFRyuu@AMcCF Posts: 703
    edited June 2020
    Redfern said:

    It saddens me a bit that we've reached a time when some people no longer recognize one of the more notable cinematic sci-fi designs.

    I've actually read a comment in which the person thought somebody merely tore off the solar panels of a T.I.E. fighter.

    In their defense, the first time I saw a TIE fighter, I thought Lucas had simply added solar panels to the Pod from "2001" (and THAT was in 1976, during the first run of "A New Hope") wink

    or the (in)famous "stargate" sequence that inspired later hyperdrive SPX 

    Oh, God! You just HAD to remind me of THAT!

    For those who have not seen the Orginal Star Gate Movie, Spoilers:

    Dr. Jackson sticks his face into the vortex and opens his eyes, and it begins. okay, kind of a trippy warp speed effect. Only it kept going. okaaay, when is the rest of the movie supposed to start? Then it starts to do the rollercoaster. Really!!? We're doing this---!?? And it kept goinig on the rollercoaster. OH, COME ONNNN! IT'S A POINT-TO-POINT TRANSMISSION!! WHY THE FUCK ARE WE FOLLOWING SHITLOADS OF TANGLED CABLE RUNS---???? Then it goes black. Thank G-O-D-!! that shit is over! Ten full fucking minutes of my life are gone forev--- And it starts up anew. GYAAAAAAHHHHHH!angry

    Yeah, talk about Oy, vey! crying

    Post edited by Ryuu@AMcCF on
  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,618

    Not that anybody will give a flying "mating act", but "2001" has special meaning for me.

    Being a syndication run Trekkie dweeb of the early to mid 70s, I picked up a couple of books that mentioned Trek in relation to other sci-fi productions, both cinema and television.  One of them discussed in detail was Kubrick's production and how "avant garde" is was.  Certainly the few B/W stills depicting the sharply detailed sets and models intrigued me.  Well, the movie was brought back for another theatrical run and I desperatelywanted to see this "important" film.  I was maybe 12 at the time so I couldn't drive and I couldn't convince my father to take me.

    Come January 1977, NBC Television started showing ads for the "network premiere" of "2001" on February 13th.  Yay!  I'd finally get to see what all the fuss was a bout!

    Who knew that was the day my father would die?

    In a state of shock, being just 14, I tried to block the horrid reality, by trying to watch the movie while my asunt, my father's older sister and her husband started handling 'final affairs.  (I had no other relatives in Birmingham, meaning my aunt drove over 6 hours to deal with things).  Now, she was never the most "understanding" and "compassionate" of relatives and saw my "retreat" as "uncaring", thus berating me like I was some inhuman monster.  Obviously, I did not get to see any of the film past the "moonbus" rid to Tycho Crater.

    It wasn't until HBO finally aired it around 1980, maybe 81 when I finally got to see it in its entirety.  (even then I think it was presented in "pan and scan".  "Letterbox" format was not yet popular with the masses.

    With it's eventually release upon domestic media, I have made it a tradition to watch the film on February 13th (if reasonably possible) as a kind of lament for my father and how my life forever changed at the deepest fundimental level.  It's "coldness" reflected the numbness that punched me in the chest February 13, 1977.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,681
    edited June 2020

    Sorry about your loss but I understand the predicament.  Some people just expect one to fall to pieces when a loved one dies.  The death of neither of my parents, whom I loved very much, did not find me wailing like a banshee or moping around like a zombie.  I was sad and shocked but life went on as I watched other people fall apart.  However, when my lover died I was stoic during the final processes, but prone to spontaneous bursts of body racking sobs for 5 years afterwards.  And even now when I hear the Albinoni's "Adagio" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuh3WyfVL2M when alone, I sometimes lose it in giant sobs when it hits the great swell part at 8:45.  But after 26 years the episodes are very infrequent now and I almost have to purposely take myself to that point for cathartic release.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,333

    I saw Invasion of the 3 Type, no it's Close Encounters of the 3rd Type for the 1st time on PBS last year and although it wasn't bad I remember almost none of it. Same when they showed 2001: A Space Odessey. When PBS shows it, you know it's not hip anymore.

     I always thought Raiders of the Lost Ark was a fictional story of a fictional archaeologist hunting for what most people assume to be fictional treasures from the Bible. I've seen it a few times but really don't remember much of it.

    It turns out I like watching old shows and movies from the 60s and earlier for the fashion and film technology. And sometimes just for the personality and hard work put in like Lucy, Ethel, Fred, & Ricky or Marlo Thomas and her boyfiend in "That Girl".  Lots of times it was clear they were having fun which made the show more fun too. Each decade seems to have it's own look back before 1970 & after 1970 and most shows after 1970 aren't really to as interesting to me visually as the older shows. The dialogue usually goes in one ear and out the other just like in school. I haven't a clue how I ever graduated anything really. laugh 

    The scripts were so contrived but then Holby City or East Enders or the new Batgirl isn't?

    I have a ROKU stick and get the CW free so I've been watching the Batgirl show. It's not bad but it is unnecessarily gorily explicit where it need not be, the dialogue is formulaic, and the film style is too shadowy and contrasted. I guess since it's a super hero fictional brooding drama that's to be expected. In spite of all the money and people they spend on that I find the Batgirl much more interesting from the original Batman comedy series.

  • Ryuu@AMcCFRyuu@AMcCF Posts: 703

    So sorry about your loss, Redfern. I can certainly see why it has such a hold on you.

    I notice that you and I share many similar tastes in films. Certainly, "2001" wasn't a bad movie, per se. Back when it first came out, I knew about the story behind the film where Kubrick tried to make it ultra realistic by NOT putting in sound effects of rockets and whooshes in space scenes that other films normally used in the day, only for him to finally cave and put in The Blue Danube when the sample audience complained about the ultra long silence during the shuttle's approach to the station. It was a most impressive endeavor, especially given the available technology for film makers back then. And quite innovative for its day, influencing films like "Doppelgänger" aka "Journey to the Far Side of the Sun" in their space scenes (only for Kubrick's lesson to be lost on its producer, Gary Anderson, when he made "Space: 1999"--yeah, Anderson made both of those!)

    And now YOU get to experience a cringeworthy moment with my reminder of that 1975 production! cheeky Seriously, after the likes of "Star Trek" and "2001" and his own "Doppelgänger"why didn't Anderson ever think of using something as simple as adding a plot element that the engines of the Meta Probe were still on the Moon undergoing some sort of final operational testing of its "jump drive" when the nuclear dumping grounds exploded to explain the Moon's journey!!?? Residual radiation from the dump sites would prevent Alpha personnel from getting close enough to shut down the jump engines, which was powering it to cause the Moon to randomly jump through various points of the universe. Such a simple addition to the dialogue in the first episode and periodic reminders to that effect could've saved the entire series!!

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited June 2020

    So sorry about your loss, Redfern. I can certainly see why it has such a hold on you.

    I notice that you and I share many similar tastes in films. Certainly, "2001" wasn't a bad movie, per se. Back when it first came out, I knew about the story behind the film where Kubrick tried to make it ultra realistic by NOT putting in sound effects of rockets and whooshes in space scenes that other films normally used in the day, only for him to finally cave and put in The Blue Danube when the sample audience complained about the ultra long silence during the shuttle's approach to the station. It was a most impressive endeavor, especially given the available technology for film makers back then. And quite innovative for its day, influencing films like "Doppelgänger" aka "Journey to the Far Side of the Sun" in their space scenes (only for Kubrick's lesson to be lost on its producer, Gary Anderson, when he made "Space: 1999"--yeah, Anderson made both of those!)

    And now YOU get to experience a cringeworthy moment with my reminder of that 1975 production! cheeky Seriously, after the likes of "Star Trek" and "2001" and his own "Doppelgänger"why didn't Anderson ever think of using something as simple as adding a plot element that the engines of the Meta Probe were still on the Moon undergoing some sort of final operational testing of its "jump drive" when the nuclear dumping grounds exploded to explain the Moon's journey!!?? Residual radiation from the dump sites would prevent Alpha personnel from getting close enough to shut down the jump engines, which was powering it to cause the Moon to randomly jump through various points of the universe. Such a simple addition to the dialogue in the first episode and periodic reminders to that effect could've saved the entire series!!

    Space 1999... had severe problems and I'm not sure the plot idea that you suggest, though it's a good one, would have saved it from a main cast with little chemistry, and scripts and direction that frequently plodded when they needed to sprint.  What was sad is that 1999 started off as the second season of UFO, which, while it had bugs of it's own, was a far superior show in almost every respect.  I recently bought the British remastered Blu-rays for UFO and it's astonishing how good that show looks when compared to anything else from the period.  Unfortunately, Anderson wasn't as in control of the Century 21 ship as fans like to think.  Besides the fact that he and Sylvia were heading towards a divorce, he'd sold the company to Sir Lew Grade years ago and Grade was always fixated on getting their series sold to American TV networks.  When UFO went into direct syndication instead, Grade's attitude was "well, give me something different."  1999 was the result of Anderson's team trying to salvage all the development that they'd already done for UFO 2, and it frequently feels like a Frankenstein effort. And then, of course, Space 1999 ended up going directly into syndication as well. :/   Of course, Grade also pulled the plug on Thunderbirds when it was one of the most popular shows in the UK for the same reason, and ultimately blew everything on the collassal dog that was Raise the Titanic, which only goes to show that inheriting a lot of money doesn't mean that you're an expert on making it.    

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    Space 1999... had severe problems and I'm not sure the plot idea that you suggest, though it's a good one, would have saved it from a main cast with little chemistry, and scripts and direction that frequently plodded when they needed to sprint.  What was sad is that 1999 started off as the second season of UFO, which, while it had bugs of it's own, was a far superior show in almost every respect.  I recently bought the British remastered Blu-rays for UFO and it's astonishing how good that show looks when compared to anything else from the period.  Unfortunately, Anderson wasn't as in control of the Century 21 ship as fans like to think.  Besides the fact that he and Sylvia were heading towards a divorce, he'd sold the company to Sir Lew Grade years ago and Grade was always fixated on getting their series sold to American TV networks.  When UFO went into direct syndication instead, Grade's attitude was "well, give me something different."  1999 was the result of Anderson's team trying to salvage all the development that they'd already done for UFO 2, and it frequently feels like a Frankenstein effort. And then, of course, Space 1999 ended up going directly into syndication as well. :/   Of course, Grade also pulled the plug on Thunderbirds when it was one of the most popular shows in the UK for the same reason, and ultimately blew everything on the collassal dog that was Raise the Titanic, which only goes to show that inheriting a lot of money doesn't mean that you're an expert on making it.    

    Thanks for the info. Indeed, "UFO", along with "Captain Scarlet" were FAR superior shows, although I hated "Stingray". I was always puzzled why "1999" came out so bad after "UFO" & "CS", with them also being from the Anderson's. I had always figured it was just another one-off like "Stingray".

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