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  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited October 2014

    OK, I don't see either of them in the downloads folder...
    Is that the "A Grand Entrance" product?

    I don't even see "A Grand Entrance" listed in the DIM downloads folder.

    A check of the product page shows I purchased it - but I can't find it in any of my orders, but there should be older orders listed somewhere...

    Edit to add:

    I also can't download & install from the order page - it takes me to an error page:

    File not found

    Firefox can't find the file at daz3dim://download/462d2cfbb38e3de335557b09e8eb99a5/product_id/792,1037,1487,1724,1902,2067,2098,2097,2099,2093,2137,2138,2139,2214,2215,2211,2280,2281,2282,2452,2453,2498,2499,2567,2568,20127.

    Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
    Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.

    Post edited by OrcaSoul on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,857
    edited December 1969

    A Grand Entrance is in http://www.daz3d.com/platinum-club-mega-pack The file name should be as in the log entry.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited October 2014

    OK, that's the order.

    A search of the DIM downloads folder for "mega" finds IM00012286-01_MegaBrushes2.dsx & .zip.

    Which are not the ones I need...

    Where does DIM get the list of downloads waiting to be downloaded and installed from DAZ?

    Does it then use that to create the download list in DIM?

    Edit to add:

    I just did a random search for the other products in the order - and none of them seem to be in the download folder!

    Is there possibly a downloading problem at the DAZ side?

    Post edited by OrcaSoul on
  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited October 2014

    OK, I may have found the problem!

    I ran the DIM as Administrator - and it is downloading and installing now...

    Edit: and it just finished...

    So now, why does it require running as Admin? Is there some way to change that?

    Post edited by OrcaSoul on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,857
    edited December 1969

    I don't need to run DIM as admin (though I am using an admin account). As long as you have access to the folders - which you should, since they are in Public Documents by default - it should work as far as I am aware.

    Although products may be in a bundle, they will usually appear in DIM (and your Product Library page) as the original items. That way there's only one item to keep updated.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    I'll probably be purchasing some more product in the next few weeks, I'll see what happens then.

    Hopefully this may have just been a very annoying fluke...

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    Your path is wrong -- it should be C:\Users\Public, not C:\Users\OrcaSoul\Public. So it isn't actually in the Public folder and you need Admin rights to write to it.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    Your path is wrong -- it should be C:\Users\Public, not C:\Users\OrcaSoul\Public. So it isn't actually in the Public folder and you need Admin rights to write to it.

    Actually i have read that any path is OK, as long as it exists.

    More to the point, however, is the fact that my original path was "C:\Users\Public\Public Documents\", and the DIM would not accept the "Public Documents", and Win7 would not let me add another "Documents" at that level.

    I think it's in the instructions for setting up the path...

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    Any path is okay as long as it's writeable -- paths under a specific user account aren't.

    "Public Documents" and "Documents" should be synonymous in the C:\Users\Public hierarchy.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    Any path is okay as long as it's writeable -- paths under a specific user account aren't.

    "Public Documents" and "Documents" should be synonymous in the C:\Users\Public hierarchy.

    Well, on my system they were not. That's what I have to work under...

    There is a good explanation of the file paths with a diagram here
    It clearly shows the C:/users/orcasoul/ is legit.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    Was there a change in DIM about a month ago?

    I have two directories with little files in them but they're not the same. There's the teeny ones that are saved with the download file in the directory I told DIM to download files to. Then there are the slightly larger files (the manifest files) in a folder in public documents.

    There's no correspondence between date or prod ID on the two sets of little files that I can see.

    Anyway when sorted by date, the manifest files start from the time I started with DIM to today. The download folder's little files, however, end almost exactly a month ago. I've certainly downloaded several files in the past month.

    (I had noticed in the last few weeks that DIM was opening a bit more quickly than it used to and isn't spending minutes hitting one/both (I assume) of those directories before it opens.)

    Can someone explain? Thanks.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    OrcaSoul said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Any path is okay as long as it's writeable -- paths under a specific user account aren't.

    "Public Documents" and "Documents" should be synonymous in the C:\Users\Public hierarchy.

    Well, on my system they were not. That's what I have to work under...

    There is a good explanation of the file paths with a diagram here
    It clearly shows the C:/users/orcasoul/ is legit.

    C:\users\orcasoul\documents is legit -- that's a designated location for user documents. C:\users\orcasoul\public is a non-standard location which may need elevated privileges.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    Spit said:
    Was there a change in DIM about a month ago?

    I have two directories with little files in them but they're not the same. There's the teeny ones that are saved with the download file in the directory I told DIM to download files to. Then there are the slightly larger files (the manifest files) in a folder in public documents.

    There's no correspondence between date or prod ID on the two sets of little files that I can see.

    Anyway when sorted by date, the manifest files start from the time I started with DIM to today. The download folder's little files, however, end almost exactly a month ago. I've certainly downloaded several files in the past month.

    (I had noticed in the last few weeks that DIM was opening a bit more quickly than it used to and isn't spending minutes hitting one/both (I assume) of those directories before it opens.)

    Can someone explain? Thanks.

    Those are two different files, although they use the same name. The ones that are in the Downloads folder are the ones downloaded along with the product. The larger ones in the ManifestFiles folder are the record of what was actually installed by DIM. The files in ManifestFiles are written only when you install something with DIM; the ones in the Downloads folder may get rewritten whenever DIM receives an update to them when connecting to DAZ 3D.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    OrcaSoul said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Any path is okay as long as it's writeable -- paths under a specific user account aren't.

    "Public Documents" and "Documents" should be synonymous in the C:\Users\Public hierarchy.

    Well, on my system they were not. That's what I have to work under...

    There is a good explanation of the file paths with a diagram here
    It clearly shows the C:/users/orcasoul/ is legit.

    C:\users\orcasoul\documents is legit -- that's a designated location for user documents. C:\users\orcasoul\public is a non-standard location which may need elevated privileges.

    OK, I'll check that out...where do I do that?

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    Spit said:
    Was there a change in DIM about a month ago?

    I have two directories with little files in them but they're not the same. There's the teeny ones that are saved with the download file in the directory I told DIM to download files to. Then there are the slightly larger files (the manifest files) in a folder in public documents.

    There's no correspondence between date or prod ID on the two sets of little files that I can see.

    Anyway when sorted by date, the manifest files start from the time I started with DIM to today. The download folder's little files, however, end almost exactly a month ago. I've certainly downloaded several files in the past month.

    (I had noticed in the last few weeks that DIM was opening a bit more quickly than it used to and isn't spending minutes hitting one/both (I assume) of those directories before it opens.)

    Can someone explain? Thanks.

    Those are two different files, although they use the same name. The ones that are in the Downloads folder are the ones downloaded along with the product. The larger ones in the ManifestFiles folder are the record of what was actually installed by DIM. The files in ManifestFiles are written only when you install something with DIM; the ones in the Downloads folder may get rewritten whenever DIM receives an update to them when connecting to DAZ 3D.

    Okay, thanks. So, I'd still like to know why I don't have any in the Downloads folder for the past four weeks?

    Oh, wait. If you tell DIM to delete the downloaded file after you install, does it also delete the other little file? I did change that option but I don't remember when.

    AND IF those files are deleted along with the zip, is it then okay to delete the other 6000 'orphan' little files I have in that folder? (I had been backing up then deleting the zips prior to telling DIM just to go ahead and delete).

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    Spit said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Spit said:
    Was there a change in DIM about a month ago?

    I have two directories with little files in them but they're not the same. There's the teeny ones that are saved with the download file in the directory I told DIM to download files to. Then there are the slightly larger files (the manifest files) in a folder in public documents.

    There's no correspondence between date or prod ID on the two sets of little files that I can see.

    Anyway when sorted by date, the manifest files start from the time I started with DIM to today. The download folder's little files, however, end almost exactly a month ago. I've certainly downloaded several files in the past month.

    (I had noticed in the last few weeks that DIM was opening a bit more quickly than it used to and isn't spending minutes hitting one/both (I assume) of those directories before it opens.)

    Can someone explain? Thanks.

    Those are two different files, although they use the same name. The ones that are in the Downloads folder are the ones downloaded along with the product. The larger ones in the ManifestFiles folder are the record of what was actually installed by DIM. The files in ManifestFiles are written only when you install something with DIM; the ones in the Downloads folder may get rewritten whenever DIM receives an update to them when connecting to DAZ 3D.

    Okay, thanks. So, I'd still like to know why I don't have any in the Downloads folder for the past four weeks?

    Oh, wait. If you tell DIM to delete the downloaded file after you install, does it also delete the other little file? I did change that option but I don't remember when.

    AND IF those files are deleted along with the zip, is it then okay to delete the other 6000 'orphan' little files I have in that folder? (I had been backing up then deleting the zips prior to telling DIM just to go ahead and delete).

    That sounds likely. You can delete the old ones that are left over from things you've installed.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:

    That sounds likely. You can delete the old ones that are left over from things you've installed.


    Great! Thanks, Mike

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    Now that I have the DIM working with the downloads it can work with I need to reorganize the older products I have spread all over the place.

    First order, put them in one folder per vendor. Have to search and find them, then move them. No sweat.

    Second order, sort through to put the products with several versions in order.

    Third order, pull out the ones that might be included in the DIM downloads...which brings up a question:

    Is there any easy way to do this except by doing a manual comparison between the lists?

    I have some 2000+ older products, going through manually would be mind-numbing.

    One thing that occurs to me is the date of the download...is there a specific date when all the products were included in the DIM inventory?

    That would make the task much easier.

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,330
    edited December 1969

    It's recommended that you use the My DAZ 3D Library which is the default library for DIM. If you use that then you don't have to uninstall anything. You you are set on using My Library for your downloads then uninstall all your DAZ 3D content from that folder. This will avoid conflicts once you install from DIM. I really suggest using the DIM default library and add it to DS

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    Frank0314 said:
    It's recommended that you use the My DAZ 3D Library which is the default library for DIM. If you use that then you don't have to uninstall anything. You you are set on using My Library for your downloads then uninstall all your DAZ 3D content from that folder. This will avoid conflicts once you install from DIM. I really suggest using the DIM default library and add it to DS

    If I read this correctly, the DIM downloaded (by DIM) files go in:
    c:/users/OrcaSoul/Public/Documents/DAZ3D/InstallManager/IM00000029-01_TableProps...

    The Pre-DIM DAZ 3D manually downloaded (the old system) source files go in:
    c:/users/OrcaSoul/Public/Documents/DAZ3D/Pre_DIM/10148_1_dpc_GardenEscapeBridge_1...

    And 3rd Party installers could go in:
    c:/users/OrcaSoul/Public/Documents/Vendors/RDNA/ZPI_FantasyBanquet...

    And ALL of the "content" can go in the same folder along with the DIM content?
    C:\Users\OrcaSoul\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library/....

    Or...would it be better to keep the non-DAZ content separate?
    C:\Users\OrcaSoul\Public\Documents\My RDNA Library./...

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    It's advisable to install DIM and non-DIM content in separate content folders (but not mandatory).

    If you want to use the Users hierarchy, it should be either Users\OrcaSoul or Users\Public, not both.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    OK, thanks - the helps.

    Gee, another new project! :lol:

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited October 2014

    New problem...

    I have the product "Killer Whale", and it shows up in the list of products installed by the DIM.

    But, when I go to DAZ Studio and search products for Animals/Real World/Water, I do not see it.

    I can, however, find the character in the Library on the right...

    DIM says it is installed, I checked the folder and the files are there, in the correct path.

    I uninstalled and then re-installed it - no change.

    I ran both DIM and DS as Administrator.

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    Post edited by OrcaSoul on
  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    In DIM, in the column before the "i" column, items which come with metadata have a check mark -- Killer Whale doesn't, so it won't show up in Smart Content or in the default categories.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited October 2014

    Oh...that makes sense.
    Does this mean that DIM includes ALL my purchased DAZ products from the beginning, or is there a cut-off somewhere?

    If there is, is there a list?

    Post edited by OrcaSoul on
  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    It should be nearly all content, most of the things missing are older software.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    OK, thanks - how "old" is too old?:coolsmile:

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    edited December 1969

    It doesn't have DS2 or DS3, for example.

    If you go to your Product Library and type
    dim::false
    in the filter box, it'll list products that aren't in DIM; however, it will also list bundles which have their own pages in the Product Library, even though the individual products in the bundle may all be in DIM.

  • OrcaSoulOrcaSoul Posts: 119
    edited December 1969

    Great! Thanks - that saves me a lot of work!

    Now I can start making "art"...:-)

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    It doesn't have DS2 or DS3, for example.

    If you go to your Product Library and type
    dim::false
    in the filter box, it'll list products that aren't in DIM; however, it will also list bundles which have their own pages in the Product Library, even though the individual products in the bundle may all be in DIM.

    It does have DS3 if you bought the Advanced version ... just a small info.

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