Gou Luk

Cybersox

Gordig said:

Wonderland said:

Thanks to everyone who posted what's actually included! But what is Mori and Harajaku makeups?  Thanks.

Harajuku is a district of Tokyo that is well known for fashion. Mori literally means “forest”, and mori kei (“forest style”) is another type of Japanese fashion. 

Beat me to it, but I'll add that Harajuku is noted for younger adult fashion... my company had an office there and the place is always swarming with high school kids... with Shibuya being more for the twenty somethings and then the neighboring Omotesando and Ginza for the more upscale stuff. 

brimstoneomega

jakiblue said:

what happened to her teeth in screenshot 95? 

brimstoneomega said:

I also had a few issues with this character. Don't get me wrong, she's very nice and has a ton of stuff and options with her, but a few of them are unusable. She comes with three set of eyelashes, two of which don't load in the right spots, and her tattoos are a bit....off. I think some of the maps load wrong, like, half of them on her front and half of them on her back. Also, her backpack.... when I load it it's paranted to her back, but the straps hang pendant, as in they aren't around her arms.

Sorry for the attachment spam, but here's some pictures to show what I mean. The first pic is her eyelashes that work, but...she loads in with default gen 8 lashes that also don't work... T_T

I also didn't show all the tattoos that are broken, there's a few, but there are also a fair few that are fine.

 

I think they must have a transmap. The teeth render fine, but are transparent in texture view.

 

Drip said:

brimstoneomega said:

I also had a few issues with this character. Don't get me wrong, she's very nice and has a ton of stuff and options with her, but a few of them are unusable. She comes with three set of eyelashes, two of which don't load in the right spots, and her tattoos are a bit....off. I think some of the maps load wrong, like, half of them on her front and half of them on her back. Also, her backpack.... when I load it it's paranted to her back, but the straps hang pendant, as in they aren't around her arms.

Sorry for the attachment spam, but here's some pictures to show what I mean. The first pic is her eyelashes that work, but...she loads in with default gen 8 lashes that also don't work... T_T

I also didn't show all the tattoos that are broken, there's a few, but there are also a fair few that are fine.

Oh, I noticed part of some of the Dark Blooms tattoos on one of the renders, didn't know it included so many other tattoos as well. Are they LIE and usable on other characters, or baked into alternative skin textures?

I like the things I see in the promoshots. I think I also like most of what's included in the bundle. The problem is, those two are totally different things.

They are LIE, there's actually quite a few of them. There is also enough LIE makeups to have been a whole product unto itself. I think she's very much worth the asking price, even with the issues. 

jardine

i'm so glad i read this thread.

big thanks to everyone who pitched in to clarify what's actually in the bundle, and what's not.  you rock.

these promos are super misleading. 

they really need to be edited to specify when a named and showcased item--like the twisted fox outfit--is not included. 

i may submit a ticket on this if i feel energetic later on.  and point the daz CS folks to this thread. 

thanks again!

j

 

Wonderland

Cybersox said:

Gordig said:

Wonderland said:

Thanks to everyone who posted what's actually included! But what is Mori and Harajaku makeups?  Thanks.

Harajuku is a district of Tokyo that is well known for fashion. Mori literally means “forest”, and mori kei (“forest style”) is another type of Japanese fashion. 

Beat me to it, but I'll add that Harajuku is noted for younger adult fashion... my company had an office there and the place is always swarming with high school kids... with Shibuya being more for the twenty somethings and then the neighboring Omotesando and Ginza for the more upscale stuff. 

Well, okay, but I still have no idea what these makeups look like. I agree with others that the promos really ha e to be redone. 

brimstoneomega

Wonderland said:

Cybersox said:

Gordig said:

Wonderland said:

Thanks to everyone who posted what's actually included! But what is Mori and Harajaku makeups?  Thanks.

Harajuku is a district of Tokyo that is well known for fashion. Mori literally means “forest”, and mori kei (“forest style”) is another type of Japanese fashion. 

Beat me to it, but I'll add that Harajuku is noted for younger adult fashion... my company had an office there and the place is always swarming with high school kids... with Shibuya being more for the twenty somethings and then the neighboring Omotesando and Ginza for the more upscale stuff. 

Well, okay, but I still have no idea what these makeups look like. I agree with others that the promos really ha e to be redone. 

Not sure if this helps, but those are just presets for the obscene amount of normal and lie makeups that are included. A fair number of them are highlights and contures, which you don't see a lot of. 

 

3Diva

jakiblue said:

Ok here's the included clothing. I took the textures off you can see them properly as they all load with black colour. 

Click for larger image

 

jakiblue said:

This is the included accessories. All jewellery. So the props in the "Survival Outfits" promo are NOT included (thigh and arm straps, glasses, guns, holsters or even the shorts). 

click for larger image

 

@jakiblue Thank you so much for the great renders showing what all is included! That's very much appreciated. :) 

3Diva

Thank you everyone for the renders and farther information about the product. :) You've been a really big help!

Ivy

I love rare-stones character.s and this one looks great. alas I have to wait until I get paid at the end of the week,  just bad timing.

tthedragon

Wildman oS said:

I think that if you're going to include stuff in promo pictures that isn't in the package then you are obliged to note them and the place to buy them in a footer in the sales page

There's often an excuse that promo picture makers can't remember what items are included in pictures, but that is a poor excuse at best.

If you are making promo pictures or any pictures you think may be used in future promotion then is is a professional duty to note at the time of rendering what items are included.

This item was already in my cart for purchase at some time in the next few days,

but seeing the various problems I think I will wait until I read that they are all corrected

It looks like the QA dept was on holiday the day this passed through, because it's impossible to believe these errors could be missed.

I'm sure DAZ will fix some of the problems quite quickly, but when I buy something I like to use it immediatly and not wait a month for the updates.

Has anybody found where the twisted fox sports wear and survival outfits can be purchased ?

I suspect that they are both future Rarestone releases, but that should still have been mentioned at the foot of the sales page.

Here is an idea for DAZ, that when you save your final rendered image to disk that an additional text file is also saved which includes a list of every item in the scene, thus saving the user the hard work of having to note things down as they build the scene.

Exactly! In speaking of Rarestone, I'm trying to figure out what striped pants are used in the promo photo for this product:

https://www.daz3d.com/all-sweet-fashion-poses-series-2-for-genesis-8-female

robertswww

tthedragon said:

Wildman oS said:

I think that if you're going to include stuff in promo pictures that isn't in the package then you are obliged to note them and the place to buy them in a footer in the sales page

There's often an excuse that promo picture makers can't remember what items are included in pictures, but that is a poor excuse at best.

If you are making promo pictures or any pictures you think may be used in future promotion then is is a professional duty to note at the time of rendering what items are included.

This item was already in my cart for purchase at some time in the next few days,

but seeing the various problems I think I will wait until I read that they are all corrected

It looks like the QA dept was on holiday the day this passed through, because it's impossible to believe these errors could be missed.

I'm sure DAZ will fix some of the problems quite quickly, but when I buy something I like to use it immediatly and not wait a month for the updates.

Has anybody found where the twisted fox sports wear and survival outfits can be purchased ?

I suspect that they are both future Rarestone releases, but that should still have been mentioned at the foot of the sales page.

Here is an idea for DAZ, that when you save your final rendered image to disk that an additional text file is also saved which includes a list of every item in the scene, thus saving the user the hard work of having to note things down as they build the scene.

Exactly! In speaking of Rarestone, I'm trying to figure out what striped pants are used in the promo photo for this product:

https://www.daz3d.com/all-sweet-fashion-poses-series-2-for-genesis-8-female

If you look at the promo photo of the striped pants, and then at the promo photo of the black pants (4th from last), they appear to have the same creases, so are probably the same pants, but with different textures.  Since the promos only show the side-view, I can't be positive, but I think they look similar to the pants in this outfit...

Seija Outfit for Genesis 8 Female(s)
https://www.daz3d.com/seija-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

The pants could also be a material/texture variation of... Pre Workout for Genesis 2 Female(s):
https://www.daz3d.com/pre-workout-for-genesis-2-female-s

tthedragon

robertswww said:

tthedragon said:

Wildman oS said:

I think that if you're going to include stuff in promo pictures that isn't in the package then you are obliged to note them and the place to buy them in a footer in the sales page

There's often an excuse that promo picture makers can't remember what items are included in pictures, but that is a poor excuse at best.

If you are making promo pictures or any pictures you think may be used in future promotion then is is a professional duty to note at the time of rendering what items are included.

This item was already in my cart for purchase at some time in the next few days,

but seeing the various problems I think I will wait until I read that they are all corrected

It looks like the QA dept was on holiday the day this passed through, because it's impossible to believe these errors could be missed.

I'm sure DAZ will fix some of the problems quite quickly, but when I buy something I like to use it immediatly and not wait a month for the updates.

Has anybody found where the twisted fox sports wear and survival outfits can be purchased ?

I suspect that they are both future Rarestone releases, but that should still have been mentioned at the foot of the sales page.

Here is an idea for DAZ, that when you save your final rendered image to disk that an additional text file is also saved which includes a list of every item in the scene, thus saving the user the hard work of having to note things down as they build the scene.

Exactly! In speaking of Rarestone, I'm trying to figure out what striped pants are used in the promo photo for this product:

https://www.daz3d.com/all-sweet-fashion-poses-series-2-for-genesis-8-female

If you look at the promo photo of the striped pants, and then at the promo photo of the black pants (4th from last), they appear to have the same creases, so are probably the same pants, but with different textures.  Since the promos only show the side-view, I can't be positive, but I think they look similar to the pants in this outfit...

Seija Outfit for Genesis 8 Female(s)
https://www.daz3d.com/seija-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

Hmm, I looked through all of 4blueyes' stuff and that doesn't seem to be it.
Also the 4th image from the last is like a shiny leather where the striped is a cotton/fabric type texture.

I'm still looking all over the place, including renderocity lol

3Diva

tthedragon said:

robertswww said:

tthedragon said:

Wildman oS said:

I think that if you're going to include stuff in promo pictures that isn't in the package then you are obliged to note them and the place to buy them in a footer in the sales page

There's often an excuse that promo picture makers can't remember what items are included in pictures, but that is a poor excuse at best.

If you are making promo pictures or any pictures you think may be used in future promotion then is is a professional duty to note at the time of rendering what items are included.

This item was already in my cart for purchase at some time in the next few days,

but seeing the various problems I think I will wait until I read that they are all corrected

It looks like the QA dept was on holiday the day this passed through, because it's impossible to believe these errors could be missed.

I'm sure DAZ will fix some of the problems quite quickly, but when I buy something I like to use it immediatly and not wait a month for the updates.

Has anybody found where the twisted fox sports wear and survival outfits can be purchased ?

I suspect that they are both future Rarestone releases, but that should still have been mentioned at the foot of the sales page.

Here is an idea for DAZ, that when you save your final rendered image to disk that an additional text file is also saved which includes a list of every item in the scene, thus saving the user the hard work of having to note things down as they build the scene.

Exactly! In speaking of Rarestone, I'm trying to figure out what striped pants are used in the promo photo for this product:

https://www.daz3d.com/all-sweet-fashion-poses-series-2-for-genesis-8-female

If you look at the promo photo of the striped pants, and then at the promo photo of the black pants (4th from last), they appear to have the same creases, so are probably the same pants, but with different textures.  Since the promos only show the side-view, I can't be positive, but I think they look similar to the pants in this outfit...

Seija Outfit for Genesis 8 Female(s)
https://www.daz3d.com/seija-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

Hmm, I looked through all of 4blueyes' stuff and that doesn't seem to be it.
Also the 4th image from the last is like a shiny leather where the striped is a cotton/fabric type texture.

I'm still looking all over the place, including renderocity lol

Tha particular PA often creates clothing for their promos that they don't release, so it's likely they made the pants themselves. 

nicstt

3Diva said:

Cybersox said:

It's definitely a bit of a clumsy presentation... it took me a while to figure out that the twisted fox outfit wasn't included, even though there's a whole page that seems to be dedicated to it.  But I've bought everything by Rrarestone except that one fairy outfit, so it's in the cart...

Yeah, it's not really clear about what is and isn't included. Also it would be super nice to actually be able to see the character's skin and how it looks in a normal render. I don't see one single "straight render" of the character that isn't overly processed, grainy, or blurry. I don't want to sound like Negative Nelly, but I would like to see at least one straight render without all the post-processing so that I can actually see the product. Of course, artistic renders are great and always nice to see, but I think at least ONE straight render where the product is clear should be included, I would think - particularly products where one might actually want to see what the textures really look like in a regular render. I'm seeing more and more products in the store with heavy denoiser and/or post-processing and it's getting harder and harder to tell what the normal textures actually look like.

It's the main reason I didn't bother buying; still put off by the ambiguity with what's included.

I have some nice products by Rarestone, but that one put me off for a few reasons; too busy on the rendered promo images; can't see the skin - seriously it's a character.

-0__0-

Regarding that visible seam around the shoulder area, has it been fixed yet? I have this in my wishlist, if it goes on sale not sure if I should buy it or wait. 

tthedragon

3Diva said:

tthedragon said:

robertswww said:

tthedragon said:

Wildman oS said:

 

Tha particular PA often creates clothing for their promos that they don't release, so it's likely they made the pants themselves. 

Ah that makes sense
Who do you think I could commission to make a pair like those, but in black and white?

Kerya

-0__0- said:

Regarding that visible seam around the shoulder area, has it been fixed yet? I have this in my wishlist, if it goes on sale not sure if I should buy it or wait. 

 

The readme says nothing about a fix for that:

http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/71323/start

 

Sevrin

Yeah, there was an update yesterday, but the arm seam is still there.  Looking at the settings, there were some differences in the normal map setting and translucency weight, but those were probably there to make the problem less noticeable.

It's not super obvious, and can be fixed with a different skin, but it's still a defect.  I just bought this the other day in a flash sale, so I put in a ticket.

3Diva

brimstoneomega said:

I also had a few issues with this character. Don't get me wrong, she's very nice and has a ton of stuff and options with her, but a few of them are unusable. She comes with three set of eyelashes, two of which don't load in the right spots, and her tattoos are a bit....off. I think some of the maps load wrong, like, half of them on her front and half of them on her back. Also, her backpack.... when I load it it's paranted to her back, but the straps hang pendant, as in they aren't around her arms.

Sorry for the attachment spam, but here's some pictures to show what I mean. The first pic is her eyelashes that work, but...she loads in with default gen 8 lashes that also don't work... T_T

I also didn't show all the tattoos that are broken, there's a few, but there are also a fair few that are fine.

Does anyone know if these things got fixed?

Mark_e593e0a5

3Diva said:

brimstoneomega said:

I also had a few issues with this character. Don't get me wrong, she's very nice and has a ton of stuff and options with her, but a few of them are unusable. She comes with three set of eyelashes, two of which don't load in the right spots, and her tattoos are a bit....off. I think some of the maps load wrong, like, half of them on her front and half of them on her back. Also, her backpack.... when I load it it's paranted to her back, but the straps hang pendant, as in they aren't around her arms.

Sorry for the attachment spam, but here's some pictures to show what I mean. The first pic is her eyelashes that work, but...she loads in with default gen 8 lashes that also don't work... T_T

I also didn't show all the tattoos that are broken, there's a few, but there are also a fair few that are fine.

Does anyone know if these things got fixed?

At least Eyelashes seem to be fixed. Some lashes take a second or two to show correct results. However, there is still room for improvement for QA. All the files in the "Documents" section return an error.

3Diva

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

3Diva said:

brimstoneomega said:

I also had a few issues with this character. Don't get me wrong, she's very nice and has a ton of stuff and options with her, but a few of them are unusable. She comes with three set of eyelashes, two of which don't load in the right spots, and her tattoos are a bit....off. I think some of the maps load wrong, like, half of them on her front and half of them on her back. Also, her backpack.... when I load it it's paranted to her back, but the straps hang pendant, as in they aren't around her arms.

Sorry for the attachment spam, but here's some pictures to show what I mean. The first pic is her eyelashes that work, but...she loads in with default gen 8 lashes that also don't work... T_T

I also didn't show all the tattoos that are broken, there's a few, but there are also a fair few that are fine.

Does anyone know if these things got fixed?

At least Eyelashes seem to be fixed. Some lashes take a second or two to show correct results. However, there is still room for improvement for QA. All the files in the "Documents" section return an error.

Ok, thank you. :) It's good to know the lashes are fixed.

Sevrin

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

3Diva said:

brimstoneomega said:

I also had a few issues with this character. Don't get me wrong, she's very nice and has a ton of stuff and options with her, but a few of them are unusable. She comes with three set of eyelashes, two of which don't load in the right spots, and her tattoos are a bit....off. I think some of the maps load wrong, like, half of them on her front and half of them on her back. Also, her backpack.... when I load it it's paranted to her back, but the straps hang pendant, as in they aren't around her arms.

Sorry for the attachment spam, but here's some pictures to show what I mean. The first pic is her eyelashes that work, but...she loads in with default gen 8 lashes that also don't work... T_T

I also didn't show all the tattoos that are broken, there's a few, but there are also a fair few that are fine.

Does anyone know if these things got fixed?

At least Eyelashes seem to be fixed. Some lashes take a second or two to show correct results. However, there is still room for improvement for QA. All the files in the "Documents" section return an error.

I tried the lashes and eyebrows.  All of the lashes and eyebrows.  There are a few.  Had one set of eyelashes and one set of eyebrows stuck to the top of her head.

Mark_e593e0a5

Sevrin said:

Mark_e593e0a5 said:

3Diva said:

brimstoneomega said:

I also had a few issues with this character. Don't get me wrong, she's very nice and has a ton of stuff and options with her, but a few of them are unusable. She comes with three set of eyelashes, two of which don't load in the right spots, and her tattoos are a bit....off. I think some of the maps load wrong, like, half of them on her front and half of them on her back. Also, her backpack.... when I load it it's paranted to her back, but the straps hang pendant, as in they aren't around her arms.

Sorry for the attachment spam, but here's some pictures to show what I mean. The first pic is her eyelashes that work, but...she loads in with default gen 8 lashes that also don't work... T_T

I also didn't show all the tattoos that are broken, there's a few, but there are also a fair few that are fine.

Does anyone know if these things got fixed?

At least Eyelashes seem to be fixed. Some lashes take a second or two to show correct results. However, there is still room for improvement for QA. All the files in the "Documents" section return an error.

I tried the lashes and eyebrows.  All of the lashes and eyebrows.  There are a few.  Had one set of eyelashes and one set of eyebrows stuck to the top of her head.

I tried again, with eyebrows A to E, and lashes A to C. They stick on the correct places. Lashes C will require some time to "settle", i.e. they only show correctly after a refresh.

I had only seen brows and lashes sticking to the top of the head when I did not select the figure before adding, or if another brow/lash has been already added.

TesseractSpace

Just updated her through Connect, now it says Gou Luk Bundle 7 of 7, and cannot find most of the textures... because they've vanished... jolly, have to manually download and install I suppose. Despite the manual and DIM downloads being over 3gb in total, the connect offline file is only 1.7gb, guessing that's the problem.

Mark_e593e0a5

TesseractSpace said:

Just updated her through Connect, now it says Gou Luk Bundle 7 of 7, and cannot find most of the textures... because they've vanished... jolly, have to manually download and install I suppose. Despite the manual and DIM downloads being over 3gb in total, the connect offline file is only 1.7gb, guessing that's the problem.

I have stopped using DAZ Connect, as it is reliably messing up my installation. Using DIM I never had anny issues so far.

dougj

Not sure what happened with the latest update but Gou Luk appears to be broken again for me. The first update fixed the seam problem. The latest update brought back the seam and made her look anorexic. You can see the seam on her left leg just below the bikini string in the 1st and 3rd images. All images are from the same saved scene. I did uninstall/reinstall the latest update with the same results. I wish I would have saved the install files from the previous update.

ALLIEKATBLUE

This is annoying.  This character was fine when I purchased her in July now she is a mess

 

3Diva

I hope everyone having the issues are putting in a support ticket about it so that it will get fixed. Seems like if more people report it, it might get a quicker response on a fix? I'm not sure but it might be worth a try.

ALLIEKATBLUE

3Diva said:

I hope everyone having the issues are putting in a support ticket about it so that it will get fixed. Seems like if more people report it, it might get a quicker response on a fix? I'm not sure but it might be worth a try.

I agree, I put in a ticket today

duckbomb

I made the mistake of using her at a percentage to help make one of the main characters for my latest comic.  Now halfway through I have to decide wether or not I need to go back and re-render everything with her in it or try to dial out the new changes myself.

Lame.

Sevrin

There are 7 files in the DIM download.  They rearranged the files, so if you're missing any of the seven that would explain the problem.  If you modified her textures, you may have additional problems.  I updated her and she still has the arm seam and eyebrows and eyelashes problem, but otherwise she works no worse than before. 

I have a ticket in because of the things that don't work anyway and QA is supposed to be looking into it.