Aeon Soul Undress/Dress poses/clothes
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https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-2-undress-poses-and-clothes-for-genesis-8-females
https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-2-get-dressed-poses-and-clothes-for-genesis-8-females
Now this looks interesting something wish had more of perfect for pinup or whatever, looks like a lot of poses/morphs. Out Of Touch and the3dwizard another two artists that offer clothing with pull down/up dress/undress options in some of their products. Hopefully AS also does some more with some other types of clothing normal shorts/dresses for example
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i'm a bit confused with this one - it includes the shirt and pants....but are they only workable in those particular poses? or are they an actual outfit that you can use any pose, not just the dressing and undressing Aeon Soul ones?
Same inquiry. What makes the shirt and pants included in this package different from previously released Everyday 2 for G8F/G8M?
An enormous set of morphs to create the dressing or undressing poses. You could use them as regular clothes. My guess is that it would make Everyday way too unwieldy to place all the morphis into a single garment.
in the text under one of the videos it says these are stand alones and do not require the every day products but can use that product and all its morphs/textures too including the new cyberpunk expansion released today too
the clothing morphs looking at the video/s appear to be sliders in parameters tab. In one video showing a comparrison of everyday2 and the clothing in these packs and the morphs the shirts are slightly different around the bottom seam ED2 more rounded shaped more real like more detailed whereas this one included straight tight more basic? also seams to have pokethrough areas It looks like you can use this outfit in any pose other than the dress/undress morphs like normal clothing and he also uses some partial poses in the upper and or lower for different looks most of the screen shots show the everyday2 products rendered the clothing that comes with those two main promos are the only rendered versions shown does say there are 21 textures included but don't know what they look like though if you have any clothing/fabric textures probably wouldn't matter. All the examples both in the pictures and videos only show basic unrendered versions or the everyday2 as an example so probably texture quality looking wise the shirt/pants are very basic looking
So still confused. LOL
I'm thinking MAYBE the only morphs actually contained in this product's shorts and shirt are the ones that go with the poses? So it might not contain morphs that help with fitting it to the character? (like, expand bottom etc etc)
will this also get released for males? :(
The file lists indicate that they have the clothes, with JCMs for posing and the additonal morphs but no other shaping morphs as far as I can see (expand/contract etc.)
http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/71891/file_list
http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/71893/file_list
would the expand all and inflate all be shaping morphs to fit different sized characters
you all got me debating rethinking myself now I do like the idea concept and be very useful to me if it'd work on any g8f even custom built one I did
Could you do a quick test on them when you do and post here to let us know? Whether they'll fit characters other than standard G8F and ...well, is it an outfit that can be used without the included poses?
Is it "compatible" with male ? How is it ?
I played with it for a bit. Here are some impressions.
1. It's advedrtised as a pose set with clothes included. As such it is found in "Poses". Not in clothing.
2. The included versions of the Everyday 2 Outfit are rigged but only have the pose morphs included unless you also have the original Everyday 2 (and add on).
3. They "work" fine on the base figure, and use auto-follow for all morphed figures. As such they work as well as any outfit without dedicated shape morphs. That is they are good for not too extreme shapes in combo with smoothing modifier and collision.
4. The poses are obviously optimized for the base G8F and will require adjustments for any shape that deviates from that. Mostly positioning of the hands.
5. You can autofit it G8M and it works if you must. The poses and pose morphs will of course be off.
6. Great set of versatile dress/undress poses. I see it as a wonderful toolbox. Very happy with it.
Ciao
TD
No rush, but I'm also interested in whether it works for males too, or at least with the male version of the clothes. (I realize most poses can be used on the opposite gender figures, just requiring adjustments sometimes. But that's true for any pose on any figure that's different from the standard it was made with.)
As I said in the post above yours. You can autofit it to G8M with all the advantages and disadvantages that come with that. You won't have any of the G8M specific morphs from that set as this is the female version. This set does NOT do anything with the G8M set other than sharing textures.
Here is a quick example. It looks ok. This is without any adjustments.
Ciao
TD
Hi everyone, we'll clarify a few points although tdh777 already did a good job
What’s the difference between these and Everyday 2 clothes?
The mesh is the same as Everyday 2 clothes, but the "get dressed / Undress" clothes do not include its morphs and textures (apart from the blue shirt + black pants shown in the main image).
"Get dressed / Undress" clothes are compatible with all the textures add-ons / expansions available as the UVs are the same.
Can these also be used as regular clothes?
They can also be used as regular clothes, you have to activate the "JCMs controller" button included under parameters, for both garments.
That option is off by default because it would otherwise distort the clothing from the intented pose-matching morph. That is why on my vids you see it poking-through the character, there's no JCMs working. As regular clothes these would be very basic as only include the pose matching morphs + plus some helper morphs.
Are there any helper morphs included to fine-tune them to custom characters?
There are helper morphs included that are not listed on the page:
Shirt
- Expand / Shrink
- Move Back Out 01
- Move Back Out 02
- Move Front Out 01
- Move Front Out 02
- Move Out Left
- Move Out Right
Pants
- Back Out
- Back Out more
- Front Out more
- Move Back Out 01
- Move Back Out 02
- Move Front Out 01
- Move Front Out 02
- Move Out Left
- Move Out Right
These are mostly meant to help with adjusting the morphs to characters etc.
How well do they fit custom characters?
I'd say it can fit custom characters fairly well, you may need some fine-tuning especially for the hands/fingers.
Tips for imperfect fitting would include:
- play with the smoothing iteration value
- Try changing the Smoothing Type
- play with the collision iteration value
- D-force, if there is heavy interaction with the hands it is best to use the "start bones from memorized pose" option.
- Adding a push modifier (Edit > geometries > add push modifier) creates a morph that is basically an expand morph
The videos are still WIP, sorry, I'll add some subtitles that explain in more detail.
Are these compatible with the male version?
It's not compatible with the male version.
Thank you for sharing this. A couple questions.
In "2". Does it mean that a lot of what is seen in the video comes from this addon or there may be too much overlapping/duplicates?
You also say a couple times "pose morph" body pose has morph too or only presets? does it mean this can animated? Or is a big leap between stages?
I'm trying to decide if i purchase one of these now or wait a couple month and a sale. It does look fantastic and I'm definitely buying something from Aeon Soul today, but unlike other addons this one looks a bit pricey and also is one item to dress, another to undress and is only for female. If it was only one item maybe i would not hesitate and just grab this and the textures. Sadly my wallet is very limited and today's promo (while really good) do not offer any benefit for purchasing more than 2 items (and we also have midnight stories today).
The poses of course work just fine. If you change the shirt's scene ID to G8M, it will fit, and then you can tweak wtih some of the premade shirt morphs. The shirt has some 'breast shape' pockets in the front, so some removal morphs, this is noticable. however, it is certainly useable on men and I like it. Here I tested it out on Landon. I didn't want to mess with his hair, so I left it off.
Sorry, I did not watch the videos. All included morphs are listed on the page (and a few additional ones are in AeonSoul's post above). If there is anything else in the video, that would be from the other sets.
With "pose morph" I am referring to the morph in the clothes that matches a specific pose. There are numerous in between poses, so I guess animating might possible with use of dForce and some effort, but I have no tried.
Ciao
TD
Edit to add: The Add-on to Everyday 2 has a few dress/undress type morphs, but there is no real overlap. I have all the sets and it is one of my favorites clothing combos.
Here is iSourceTextures Caprice (https://www.daz3d.com/caprice-hd-for-genesis-8-female) with the Remove Shirt 1 morph. It's not perfect, but I can adjust the pose to correct for the mismatch. Aeon Soul includes around 5 morphs per pose that should fit many characters, but I can imagine some will require more tweaking than others.
In comparison, here's a quick test of bluejaunte's Murphy with the same morph:
The pants were easy to fit on G8M, and less of an issue I found due to the lack of breast morphs which were an issue with the G8F top. Just load them without fitting them, change scene ID and put them on G8M.
It wasn't immediately apparent to me what "moobish" meant, and the definition on urban dictionary was no help.
Man boob= Moob
I figured it out eventually.
Two (and a half) questions:
Apart from that, these sets (and the other Everyday Clothes Sets) are on my wishlist until price and my available money are on an even level... But I look forward to that moment
+1 haha... I actually held off purchasing this product coz of the capri pants which I will never use in my male renders LOL
Capri pants, man buns, ironic facial hair.
We really need male rompers to go with the Daz look.
EDIT: /SARCASM!!!!