Wait for the RTX 3080 20GB / 3090 or go for a Titan RTX?
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I understand that the newer cards will clearly deliver faster speeds but looking at how much prices are going for, I cannot imagine how much a 3090 will be with scalpers. Yes, you'll be able to buy it but most likely only if you're extremely lucky. 3080's are selling for $1,400. A Titan RTX with 24GB or ram is around the same price, maybe a bit more.
Is the better answer to just wait?
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The 3090 will be available at MSRP within a month or so. The 3080 "super" is not announced. It isn't likely to come out before next year. Unless you come across a really amazing bargain on an RTX titan there is no reason to not wait for a 3090.
Never buy from a scalper, it just validates them doing what they do and they will keep doing it.
Got to laugh in a way. Better versions of all cards are coming very soon, so the people who rushed to buy if they managed to get one, will be feeling a bit silly now.
Not so sure it will be very soon but I will wait anyway. 8 or 10 GB is just not enough and I can't afford the 3090.
Just remember that while everything seems to suggest that the 20gb 3080 exists, Nvidia has not confirmed it officially. It may not come out until later next year. It is also possible that it may not come out at all.
And don't buy from scalpers. If you wish to wait, just let the demand die down a little bit. It should not take long for these cards to start entering the supply chain enough to stop scalpers. This is not like the mining craze a few years ago. Scalpers want to make a quick buck, if they can't do that they will stop. It should die down after a month or two, especially once new AMD GPUs and consoles release, because then the scalpers will move on to those products. There are a ton of big releases coming this year.
And as vendors learn how the scalper bots work, they may also start to create better anti-bot measures to counter them.
Like I said, other people were saying that 10GB of vram would be insuffiecient despite it being a new card. That's why I asked.
..the 3090, with more than double the cores of the RTX Titan is priced 1,000$ less.
But the 3080 is quite close in performance and, if it does get 20GB, it will be hard to justify a 3090.
Even with 10GB being sufficient today, the trend is going up for several reasons. On the other hand, if you already have one with 8 or 11GB VRAM, you get little more or even little less...
Doing stuff with DS just for ones own enjoyment, 30min. rendering time with a 2070 super (8GB) is already fast enough = Not worth spending big bucks for JUST a little faster rendering.
If the new card would give significant increase in VRAM, one could be tempted to upgrade.
Gigabyte "leaked them" (I don't know, for some reason I consider all "leaks" to be viral marketing but whatever) the other day by "mistake". I expect they'll arrive next month, though as usual expect availability to be low for a few months after that.
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I personally wouldn't regret getting the FE edition. It's decent value, and I'd turn it into a display card, and get another to use for rendering (Yes I mean a dedicated card to those that don't like the term).
2000 cuda cores is not quite close, despite this generations cuda cores being less efficient.
30 minutes? do you have an example of what takes 30 minutes to render on a 2070? Well a couple of examples. :)
It's 2070 Super
One or two characters and a scene that isn't too bloated, One character with clothes and no scene takes just a couple of minutes.
W7+DS 4.12.0.86
Some 10k HDRI's I rendered took over 2 hours on my 2070, while others took as "little" as 30 minutes. Things depend a lot on what you render and how big you render.
My guess is the 3080 20gb will be announced the day after Big Navi gets announced (28th Oct) and will be available within the week. The 3090 goes on sale on the 24th Sept - and, another guess, is NVIDIA will do a better job at stopping scalpers this time around.
cheers.
It's a guess.
It wouldn't be a good decission imo though. That sort of re-active response to AMDs products would irritate those who had just bought it. I hope they don't do that.
Please behave yourselves or we will put the whole thread on the naughty step.
Well, depending on how it is priced, right?
1. Do you absolutely need that specific product immediately, and there is absolutely no alternative that gets the job done? Well, then you're sadly at the mercy of the scalpers.
2. If not, then either wait or go for an alternative.
Mind that I'm very strict regarding the use of the word "need". Needing something is entirely different from really badly wanting something. You may need a car to get to work. However, I very much doubt that car has to be a 2020 BMW-8 Gran Coupé. A Nissan Micra will most probably get you there as well, as does an older model BMW, or a Mercedes. For all I care, you get 5 Micra's, one for each workday. They'll still get you there.
Same goes for the 30xx cards: I seriously doubt there's an absolute need for buying them from scalpers for anyone. There are suitable alternatives, including waiting for availability to improve.
Is that a Welshism?
NO they would be more likely to say something like "Pack it in, you sledge" https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/fun-stuff/22-welsh-sentences-confuse-everyone-12481526
Most of those were really not confusing at all.
Absolutely. Need sounds so much better than want.
It is a guess .. but, if Big Navi comes out and gets close to the 3080 (or god-forbid, beats it) and it does come with the rumoured 16gb .. then what else can NVIDIA do? They can't just sit there for 6 months and let AMD have the performance crown and and all the while having more VRAM.
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Where is the misbehaviour?
Oh, I get it - you have been deleting the offending posts.
Kinda holding out for a month or two here... but getting "the latest" isn;t quite the same when it comes to laptops.
I'm partially back on the road again (my team is splattered across half the planet, quite literally), so a mobile solution is my best bet, and lugging a desktop around ain't gonna cut it, so...
My 2018-vintage Acer Aspire 7 w/ GTX 1060 (6GB) GPU recently blew out its trackpad (but a little USB mouse fixes that for now - yay?) so I'm sniffing around, and find that I can get low/mid-end 2k-series RTX GPUs for a decent (well, relatively decent) price - around the $2k-$2.5k range. I know they're gonna come out with something more badassed around Black Friday, so I'm kinda stretching this little bugger for just awhile longer.
The point is kinda simple: If you can hold out a little longer, do it. You'll thank yourself later.
I wouldn't sweat it. There aren't even rumors of 3000 series mobile GPU's yet. There are a bunch of 2021 model laptops annonced all with 2000 series GPU's so I wouldn't count on seeing any 3000 GPU's before Q2 2021.
...the only time I ever did that was to get a ticket for the 1994 Rose Bowl because they undersold tickets to Wisconsin Fans. It was the first time in 31 years since the Badgers were last in Pasedena. Paid about 350$ for the ticket (fortunately I was earning good money at the time). Several years later when the Badgers returned to the January Classic the NCAA made sure that there was an even number of tickets for each team's fans and I ended up pretty much in the same seating area (30 yard line about 1/3 the way up in the stands) for 124$ through legitimate sources.
...lush