November Contest not for all?

What about people like me who don't and don't want use "social media" and that "hashtag culture"? Where shall I enter my contest picture? My "portfolio"?? Don't think I got one, as I'm not an professional artist.

Wouldn't it easy to allow posting them in the DAS3D's gallery here?

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  • What about people like me who don't and don't want use "social media" and that "hashtag culture"? Where shall I enter my contest picture? My "portfolio"?? Don't think I got one, as I'm not an professional artist.

    Wouldn't it easy to allow posting them in the DAS3D's gallery here?

    I think they are looking for free advertising. My not into social media question is, "what is octane and why do I care"

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,025

    Social media hashtags are really easy to track for contests and it makes setting up the contest rules less of a pain. Also yeah, contests like this are usually to raise product awareness (in this case, awareness of a nonprofit as well), and the gallery is made up entirely of folks who already know what Daz is. Gallery content stays on Daz, falls off the front page quickly, and is not shareable the way a social post is. Social media advertising is all about getting people to talk about you where lots of other people can see it. laugh

     

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,985

    Social media advertising is all about getting people to talk about you where lots of other people can see it. laugh

    From my point of view the one thing about social media is, it isn't.

    Social, that is...

    It's just a big vanity playground.

    Too bad that everybody and their uncle try to force us all to jump on (or under?) the unsocial media train... without thinking about the consequences (like consumer data gathering...)

     

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,025

    Social media advertising is all about getting people to talk about you where lots of other people can see it. laugh

    From my point of view the one thing about social media is, it isn't.

    Social, that is...

    It's just a big vanity playground.

    Too bad that everybody and their uncle try to force us all to jump on (or under?) the unsocial media train... without thinking about the consequences (like consumer data gathering...)

    That is a valid point of view and I think staying off social is completely understandable! I have one locked Twitter account now where I chat with my close fandom friends and one where I post art sometimes (also for fandom friends), and that's pretty much all the social media I want in my personal life recently. But it is where people are, and it's pretty much impossible to avoid it as a marketing tool these days. 

  • What about people like me who don't and don't want use "social media" and that "hashtag culture"? Where shall I enter my contest picture? My "portfolio"?? Don't think I got one, as I'm not an professional artist.

    Wouldn't it easy to allow posting them in the DAS3D's gallery here?

    It's just the modern world, if they didn't do these promotion events they couldn't offer the content, they have to stay relevant. In my head, I live in the 80s and 90s really but still have social media accounts just in case to benefit me.
  • SilvereSilvere Posts: 46

    If anything, I don't understand where to post this. 

     #MadeWithDaz and #Movember, tagging @insta_daz3d

     Do I just post the first two tags on a twitter post and thats it? But it also says to tag with @insta_daz3d, which is instagram. Would I now need to create an instagram account too just to participate? Does a wordpress blog post ("portfolio") work with the tags?

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

  • SilvereSilvere Posts: 46

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    Oh, skipped that part.

    Nevermind then, cheers

  • Silvere said:

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    Oh, skipped that part.

    Nevermind then, cheers

    well then I did not see that either that changes things really 

  • Silvere said:

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    Oh, skipped that part.

    Nevermind then, cheers

    Same here - thank you for pointing that out Watchdog79.  Saved me a lot of time creating something, after which I would have looked at how to submit it and then seen this (which was a lot of scrolling and a couple of clicks into the contest pages).

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,985

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    ooops...

    seems I got all flustered already before I even reached that point... blush

    Well, in this case it's nonononono  for #MadeWithDaz, #Movember and @insta_daz3d

  • GreeboGreebo Posts: 161

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    ooops...

    seems I got all flustered already before I even reached that point... blush

    Well, in this case it's nonononono  for #MadeWithDaz, #Movember and @insta_daz3d

    +1

  • Ok, Boomer.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,484

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    WOW - ok cut out the rest of your customers. If they don't want my entering as I'm not in the US then I guess they don't want my money either as its not in Dollars.

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026
    edited October 2020
    scorpio said:

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    WOW - ok cut out the rest of your customers. If they don't want my entering as I'm not in the US then I guess they don't want my money either as its not in Dollars.

    I would blame the legislation, not Daz here. Maybe not even the U.S. legislation, while at it.

    Contests with prices fall under very strange rules imposed by legislation in some countries, including heaps of paperwork and certain fees and/or taxes. One has to check each country the residents of which one wants to make eligible for the prices. Mind, that not every country will accept the paperwork in English.

    There is a similar problem with an online game I play, Elder Scrolls Online. Some countries never get to participate in sweepstakes and such, because their legislation is so heavy handed, it would cost the company a lot of money.

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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,484
    scorpio said:

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    WOW - ok cut out the rest of your customers. If they don't want my entering as I'm not in the US then I guess they don't want my money either as its not in Dollars.

    I would blame the legislation, not Daz here. Maybe not even the U.S. legislation, while at it.

    Contests with prices fall under very strange rules imposed by legislation in some countries, including heaps of paperwork and certain fees and/or taxes. One has to check each country the residents of which one wants to make eligible for the prices. Mind, that not every country will accept the paperwork in English.

    There is a similar problem with an online game I play, Elder Scrolls Online. Some countries never get to participate in sweepstakes and such, because their legislation is so heavy handed, it would cost the company a lot of money.

    Only the second prize is cash so change that and there wouldn't be a problem.

  • Yea I think there are a lot gotcha's. Still, happy Daz are doing something different in terms of prizes :)

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026
    scorpio said:
    scorpio said:

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    WOW - ok cut out the rest of your customers. If they don't want my entering as I'm not in the US then I guess they don't want my money either as its not in Dollars.

    I would blame the legislation, not Daz here. Maybe not even the U.S. legislation, while at it.

    Contests with prices fall under very strange rules imposed by legislation in some countries, including heaps of paperwork and certain fees and/or taxes. One has to check each country the residents of which one wants to make eligible for the prices. Mind, that not every country will accept the paperwork in English.

    There is a similar problem with an online game I play, Elder Scrolls Online. Some countries never get to participate in sweepstakes and such, because their legislation is so heavy handed, it would cost the company a lot of money.

    Only the second prize is cash so change that and there wouldn't be a problem.

    It doesn't work like that. The main prizes each have a value. For the EU residents, the value would be high enough to warrant a VAT/customs fee on imported items. Who would pay that? The customer? Daz? The legal paperwork required can be costly too, especially if done for a number of countries, each requiring different papers to be submitted, and different forms to be filled. In their language. Not in English. That would cost Daz a lot of money.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,484
    scorpio said:
    scorpio said:

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    WOW - ok cut out the rest of your customers. If they don't want my entering as I'm not in the US then I guess they don't want my money either as its not in Dollars.

    I would blame the legislation, not Daz here. Maybe not even the U.S. legislation, while at it.

    Contests with prices fall under very strange rules imposed by legislation in some countries, including heaps of paperwork and certain fees and/or taxes. One has to check each country the residents of which one wants to make eligible for the prices. Mind, that not every country will accept the paperwork in English.

    There is a similar problem with an online game I play, Elder Scrolls Online. Some countries never get to participate in sweepstakes and such, because their legislation is so heavy handed, it would cost the company a lot of money.

    Only the second prize is cash so change that and there wouldn't be a problem.

    It doesn't work like that. The main prizes each have a value. For the EU residents, the value would be high enough to warrant a VAT/customs fee on imported items. Who would pay that? The customer? Daz? The legal paperwork required can be costly too, especially if done for a number of countries, each requiring different papers to be submitted, and different forms to be filled. In their language. Not in English. That would cost Daz a lot of money.

    Renderosity do it all the time so do other sites sorry but I don't feel that is a legitmate excuse.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,484

    Yea I think there are a lot gotcha's. Still, happy Daz are doing something different in terms of prizes :)

    Yes it is - but not if you are excluded.

  • scorpio said:

    Yea I think there are a lot gotcha's. Still, happy Daz are doing something different in terms of prizes :)

    Yes it is - but not if you are excluded.

    I'm excluded too.. ;) 

  • sueyasueya Posts: 832

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    Am I right in thinking this is the first time Daz has had a contest solely for U.S. Residents? Not impressed, especially as Movember is a charity campaign supported in other countries too.

  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 787

    On the social aspect i'm also not a big fan of social media. I do get the nature of the contest and DAZ wanting the promotion, it is natural, but will be a pass for me.

    Also the US only is even worst. I think there was a lack of planning here. I get the customs and VAT issues, so why not offering alternative prizes for non US residents? Both the dash or the cash equivalent for the video card could be provided as Paypal transfer o both be offered daz credit/gift cards. I know is not the same, but at least you don't cut the rest of the world out of the contest.

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026
    Wolfwood said:

    On the social aspect i'm also not a big fan of social media. I do get the nature of the contest and DAZ wanting the promotion, it is natural, but will be a pass for me.

    Also the US only is even worst. I think there was a lack of planning here. I get the customs and VAT issues, so why not offering alternative prizes for non US residents? Both the dash or the cash equivalent for the video card could be provided as Paypal transfer o both be offered daz credit/gift cards. I know is not the same, but at least you don't cut the rest of the world out of the contest.

    Because no matter whether they are in cash, bank transfer, or material goods, some countries will still want the VAT, other taxes, or fees for such valuable prizes. Circumventing taxes via PayPal may get you in trouble. It is still tax evasion. And a company like Daz willingly assisting people in that? That could get Daz in trouble too.

    And again, some of you still keep forgetting the associated legal requirements on the Daz's shoulders different for each country, to even be allowed to include their residents. Those papers alone could cause many a headache.

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,025
    edited October 2020
     
    scorpio said:
    scorpio said:

    As it is only for U.S. residents anyway, no need for me to care at all.indecision

    WOW - ok cut out the rest of your customers. If they don't want my entering as I'm not in the US then I guess they don't want my money either as its not in Dollars.

    I would blame the legislation, not Daz here. Maybe not even the U.S. legislation, while at it.

    Contests with prices fall under very strange rules imposed by legislation in some countries, including heaps of paperwork and certain fees and/or taxes. One has to check each country the residents of which one wants to make eligible for the prices. Mind, that not every country will accept the paperwork in English.

    There is a similar problem with an online game I play, Elder Scrolls Online. Some countries never get to participate in sweepstakes and such, because their legislation is so heavy handed, it would cost the company a lot of money.

    Only the second prize is cash so change that and there wouldn't be a problem.

    It doesn't work like that. The main prizes each have a value. For the EU residents, the value would be high enough to warrant a VAT/customs fee on imported items. Who would pay that? The customer? Daz? The legal paperwork required can be costly too, especially if done for a number of countries, each requiring different papers to be submitted, and different forms to be filled. In their language. Not in English. That would cost Daz a lot of money.

    Yeah the VAT thing is a huge consideration in my experience. People enter contests all the time not understanding they're agreeing to pay those fees (which could be astronomical on a prize like the graphics card depending on where the winner is), and so you can end up having to disqualify several very unhappy potential winners or eat the fee yourself. It's not a great experience in general to have winning a prize be gated by whether or not you can afford to accept it. Some places also have super convoluted requirements to actively discourage non-residents from running contests, or they disallow it outright.

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  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,071

    There may be good reasons why the contest is for US residents only but that information really needs to be displayed more prominently. Very uncool.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    Most contests aren't valid in Québec, even if they are in the rest of Canada, because of consumer protection laws meant to protect us from scams, so I always ignore this type of thing.

  • ISIKOLISIKOL Posts: 386

    Well...i was really dissapointed that i ve heard that this contest is for US residents only.... daz is loosing an awesome opportunity to have the best artists in the world who are using daz proffesionally to contribute their ideas and to have a really big thing here....  

    i spent my entire evening brainstorming amazing ideas that i wanted to turn into images so the dissapointement was great when i found out some minutes ago about this....

    well....we say here...good heart.....

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977
    edited October 2020
    Nevermind
    Post edited by ALLIEKATBLUE on
  • You also have to associate your social media with the image for the contest.

    I mean... I don't think Daz wants my political twatter blah blah associated with an art entry, or my \n00dz on DeviantArt to be associated with this.
    I know I don't really want to associate all these different parts of myself in the Daz thing.

    I could be wrong, though.

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