November Contest not for all?

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  • CbirdCbird Posts: 493

    one can still donate to Movember enlightened

    and even grow a moustache and get your friends to sponsor you for the cause yes 

    Some of my students grew their leg hair to support the guys :)

  • kimhkimh Posts: 389

    Thank you Daz for finding a way for us to participate

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,985
    kimh said:

    Thank you Daz for finding a way for us to participate

    Only they haven't - or at least not considering the reason why I started this thread:

    What about people like me who don't and don't want use "social media" and that "hashtag culture"? Where shall I enter my contest picture? My "portfolio"?? Don't think I got one, as I'm not an professional artist.

    Wouldn't it easy to allow posting them in the DAS3D's gallery here?

    The thread got a bit hijacked due to the "only US citizens" problem, but solve that part doesn't mean it's solved completely.

    So at least for me no reason to say too many thanks devil

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I see you are missing here the big picture , you still need to upload the image(s) with your submissions here, the point of the contest is to bring it to the big audience outside of our community to support Movember , bring it to the people that are not here or visit the gallery or use Daz Studio .

    It is not about You, Me or others here from our community or who is a pro or not , if you can't follow the contest rules , you can still donate to Movember to support it or grow a mustache , there are many other ways to support it if you really care.

    Social media is a good tool to bring stuff out to the public especially for a good cases, and hashtags helps people to find the right content of interest , so please don't make it all about yourself as that is not the intention of the contest , uploading your image to the gallery is like screaming behind your monitor, nobody would hear you outside and it will not helps the case. So why enter the contest for ? just for the prizes or nice comments? that's very selfish

    I hope you don't get offended and see my point, DAZ don't want to see if you are good at DAZ Studio and rewards you for that, they can see it already in the gallery without making any Contests , it is about to bring the awareness to the masses in a very unique way and change the world. heart

    Personally I think since Movember event is to raise awareness of men's health issues, such as prostate cancer, testicular cancer, and men's suicide, and not about RTX Titan or cash , it is sad that a company need to inspire Artists with materialistic stuff to do anything to help others, and still hearing complainings.. We should do that without any prizes , that would be something special , pure and unique , it would put our community in the proper spot, for that reason I will not submit my contest entry, I will just share it with others whatever it may bring, I will sleep with a clear conscience, I will sleep in peace!

    kimh said:

    Thank you Daz for finding a way for us to participate

    Only they haven't - or at least not considering the reason why I started this thread:

    What about people like me who don't and don't want use "social media" and that "hashtag culture"? Where shall I enter my contest picture? My "portfolio"?? Don't think I got one, as I'm not an professional artist.

    Wouldn't it easy to allow posting them in the DAS3D's gallery here?

    The thread got a bit hijacked due to the "only US citizens" problem, but solve that part doesn't mean it's solved completely.

    So at least for me no reason to say too many thanks devil

     

  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,663
    edited November 2020

    Well Said Mec4D. I want to enter the contest because there is something I want to bring awareness to that follows the Movember cause and this would be a great time to do that. If I win...great, could use an Nvidia card so my son in law can build me a new computer (mine is 10 yrs old) or if I won the cash, same thing, if one of the smaller prizes, great, still want to buy meshgrabber. I don't care what the prize is, I will find it useful. If I don't win, so what, I got to participate and bring awareness and that is what matters in the long run. I don't @#$%& about whether or not I win or participate or the rules of any of it.

    So...why doesn't everyone quite their bellyaching about if they can participate or what the prize is or any of that other stuff and concentrate on the fact Movember is a good cause and can use everyone's help in whatever manner they can do so.

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  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026
    edited November 2020

    Well Said Mec4D. I want to enter the contest because there is something I want to bring awareness to that follows the Movember cause and this would be a great time to do that. If I win...great, could use an Nvidia card so my son in law can build me a new computer (mine is 10 yrs old) or if I won the cash, same thing, if one of the smaller prizes, great, still want to buy meshgrabber. I don't care what the prize is, I will find it useful. If I don't win, so what, I got to participate and bring awareness and that is what matters in the long run. I don't @#$%& about whether or not I win or participate or the rules of any of it.

    So...why doesn't everyone quite their bellyaching about if they can participate or what the prize is or any of that other stuff and concentrate on the fact Movember is a good cause and can use everyone's help in whatever manner they can do so.

    Let me see... Maybe because it is a contest in my currently most favourite hobby activity, and we are on a website, which, surprisingly, specifically focuses on said activity, in my opinion making it quite understandable that some of us feel left out because we do not feel comfortable and/or safe using the social media required?

    I do not want to have an account there for personal security reasons. Well, not one that would provide anyone any useful information on me, anyway. Or that would even tell anyone without a proper judicial warrant it even is me.

    The second part of your complaint about the prizes is not the most important thing to me at all.

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  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    +1  

    Well Said Mec4D. I want to enter the contest because there is something I want to bring awareness to that follows the Movember cause and this would be a great time to do that. If I win...great, could use an Nvidia card so my son in law can build me a new computer (mine is 10 yrs old) or if I won the cash, same thing, if one of the smaller prizes, great, still want to buy meshgrabber. I don't care what the prize is, I will find it useful. If I don't win, so what, I got to participate and bring awareness and that is what matters in the long run. I don't @#$%& about whether or not I win or participate or the rules of any of it.

    So...why doesn't everyone quite their bellyaching about if they can participate or what the prize is or any of that other stuff and concentrate on the fact Movember is a good cause and can use everyone's help in whatever manner they can do so.

     

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    You feel left out ? how you want to bring the awareness to the public then ? that's the rule of the contest and the whole idea behind it in the first place . Other way it make no sense , it is not Internal contest where DAZ can see how good you can render , they can see it already in the gallery on a daily basic . 

    I understand you don't want to create a social media account for any personal security reason, but if the rule was changed and you won, your name would be place everywhere across the social media  platforms and the whole internet anyway, so much of your privacy. 

    Doing the way you want will leave out all the Men that needs your support and voice in the public ! the contest is for them in first place !  your anonymous entry will helps nobody.

     

    Let me see... Maybe because it is a contest in my currently most favourite hobby activity, and we are on a website, which, surprisingly, specifically focuses on said activity, in my opinion making it quite understandable that some of us feel left out because we do not feel comfortable and/or safe using the social media required?

    I do not want to have an account there for personal security reasons. Well, not one would provide anyone any useful information on me, anyway. Or that would even tell anyone without a proper judicial warrant it even is me.

     

  • You're worried about security...you're on the internet, there is no security. Every search you do is tracked and catalogue and filed away for further use, every transaction by phone or the net can be monitored, every post made anywhere online is tracked and monitored and stored till further use. The only way your data is not mined is if you get off the internet, stop using any sort of credit cards and try to remove GPS from any phone, vehicle and device you have and then find a way to avoid dealing with the bank, stores and doing your taxes every year. There hasn't been any privacy and security for one's data for over 10 years.

  • You're worried about security...you're on the internet, there is no security. Every search you do is tracked and catalogue and filed away for further use, every transaction by phone or the net can be monitored, every post made anywhere online is tracked and monitored and stored till further use. The only way your data is not mined is if you get off the internet, stop using any sort of credit cards and try to remove GPS from any phone, vehicle and device you have and then find a way to avoid dealing with the bank, stores and doing your taxes every year. There hasn't been any privacy and security for one's data for over 10 years.

    yeah every site I visit I see ads related to them when I go on facebook, deviant art or others, pretty much only site I don't see ads for other places I've visted is here but I see ads for daz elsewhere, don't matter if your signed in or not either

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    I see adds for DAZ everywhere I go not even on 3D related websites , especially latelly and a lot of them on phone and Desktop when using Chrome .

    Once you go on internet , it is over with your privacy 

    so totally agree with Fearyl Womyn, security and privacy on Internet don't exist , every website you visit and activity can be seeing by your internet provider to begin with, beside the activities that are encrypted by the secure server  like credit card transcations. Social media or DAZ account are on the same level of security , it is a good level of security so not huge reason to worry about and become paranoid .

  • just remembered another thing,I was googling images for ideas for my renders and in my search were few daz images that appeared and a fair few of those were actually my renders so yeah again anything you upload be it image or something you've written on any given site can also appear in searches as well as websites you visit and I swear sometimes even emails get info from too sometimes. And those that use their phones I think even worse, I've been seeing more phones sold here that use either your fingerprints or face to unlock and use and bank/credit cards you don't even have to enter pin numbers, tvs game machines fridges and other electronics that have cameras can be hacked and watch you without you knowing it so there is no escaping it. But back to point this render promotion is all about a good cause and spreading awareness of this illness/es in men and the prize now open to all nice incentive true and being that you can post your images and tag them on other sights lifts some restrictions in what you can do which if posted in the galleries here would probably get you banned obviously nudity and explicit would still not go down but other stuff should that wouldn't be ok in the galleries here would be ok to do to represent the different types of cancers and about self examinations but also creating fun even cheeky renders. There really aren't that many things that cover mens issues such as cancer, mental health including suicide? I personally have a long history there. so nice to see daz playing a part in this even if they have to go outside of daz to promote so it doesn't conflict with their rules. Next time say women's breast cancer events come up they could do this for that as well and go outside of daz to display renders because how else could you convey promote awareness of women with breast,cervix, overy etc cancers without breaking the gallery rules here

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    Angelreaper1972 , I have a couple of a great idea , I don't think it is ok to show the bad side if the problem but rather how to prevent it in first place to break the stigma .

    Many Men are ashamed to speak about , don't get to check in time, ignore the problem because of personal ego issues and in many cases it lead sadly to suicide, they need to know it is OK to speak about and nobody will judge , it is ok to ask for help, it is about to make the problem less alienated . Scary  renders will not works but love and understanding , or just a render with a great mustache , or a funny render with a lady growing her legs hair, so many stuff can be done in any direction as long it is tasteful and have some meaning behind. Men from nature don't like to show weakness , when they  get sick, they mostly ignore it waiting too long and suffer until it is too late for any help. Some are stubborn other ashamed to talk about, it s tabu in many cases , for that reason the Movember event not to scare them more, but to show them that is OK to talk about and ask for help

  • It's not only one feeling shame for which ever problem they might have, it's also the prejudice from others associated with any of that. My mother fought to get a home for abused women in my hometown. They refused saying it was a native problem and to let them deal with it. She proved them wrong and got the funding, which last over 20 years. After that, she tried to get a home for men, which I questioned her about (dumby that I was) since I didn't think it was possible for the man in a relationship to be the one abused. She explained it all to me and had me watch a movie called Men Don't Tell (I highly recommend it). It was a definite eye opener and went a long way in my understanding men better.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    That what I was talking about, people worry too much about what others say or think, too much victims !  we have one case in our school, the mother did not wanted to press charges worried about what other will say, making the girl feeling guilty for being a victim . My brother did not told anybody about his health issues , he was waiting until 1 day before hospitalization , he passed away the day after and nobody had the chance to say even goodbye, sad story...

  • SaraTSaraT Posts: 58

    When you say "Acceptance of prize constitutes permission for Daz 3D to use winner’s name, likeness, and entry for purposes of advertising and trade without further compensation, unless prohibited by law." do you mean that you will publish the contributor's real name? Or their social media alias? I keep my Daz images quite separate from my real name as I don't want them to pop up when someone googles my real name (for work). I suppose I could create a one-time social media account under my real name instead, but that seems somewhat counterproductive to the purpose of spreading the word regarding Movember.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    You will also need to provide all legal documents for taxes and other stuff in case of winning , but if they have to publish the real name of the author winner depends also of the state's law the contest is taking place . I believe it is ok to use Artist ( nick name ), not everyone publish stuff under real name , books, photography , music or other stuff , but like with lottery , it is a different animal

    it is not clear in this case and DAZ only should make any clarification on this subject and answer the question 

    SaraT said:

    When you say "Acceptance of prize constitutes permission for Daz 3D to use winner’s name, likeness, and entry for purposes of advertising and trade without further compensation, unless prohibited by law." do you mean that you will publish the contributor's real name? Or their social media alias? I keep my Daz images quite separate from my real name as I don't want them to pop up when someone googles my real name (for work). I suppose I could create a one-time social media account under my real name instead, but that seems somewhat counterproductive to the purpose of spreading the word regarding Movember.

     

  • SaraTSaraT Posts: 58

    Yes, thanks, I'm looking for an official answer. Maybe this isn't the right thread, I found another one here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/446396/movember-contest-questions-for-mods-staff/, I'll try to post there instead.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,841
    SaraT said:

    Yes, thanks, I'm looking for an official answer.

    Then you'll need to contact Daz directly via a support ticket, you won't get one in the forums. 

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,985
    MEC4D said:

    I see you are missing here the big picture , you still need to upload the image(s) with your submissions here, the point of the contest is to bring it to the big audience outside of our community to support Movember , bring it to the people that are not here or visit the gallery or use Daz Studio .

    And I think that You are missing the big picture. If DAZ Studio wanted to promote Movember, they could easily set up part of the gallery as "Only Movember Stuff Only" and have their (!) social media pages hashtag to it.

    As it is, I - any many other people - don't have any social media accounts and don't want any social media accounts. I could of course set one up just for occasions like this, just to #enterthecompetition but as there probably would not show up many people at it due me being not active in social media so not sharing that # much it would be well less promotion as if it was done by DAZ Studio... which for me shows that the idea of "promoting Movember through DAZ" is in real the opposite, trying "promoting DAZ through Movember".

    And yes, I am selfish and only enter competition because of the prices offered.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    That is not how # works on social media ,  no matter you have 1 or 1000 followers using # helps others to see the images even if they don't know about your existence , the # will group them all together in one place on the social media and others can see it

     

  • One thing I have not seen mentioned here is DeviantArt. Someone menntioned it on another site and wanted to kow if DeviantArt was considered an acceptable social media place for an entry to the contest? Does anyone know the answer to that?

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249

    It may work , since you need to put in the submission where you uploaded it, if youtube works why not DeviantArt

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