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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,402
    edited February 2021

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  • movidamovida Posts: 54
    edited February 2021

    Catherine3678ab said:

    movida said:

    here you go

    That is not an English Bulldog ;-) There are a few varieties, American for example. 

    These flat faced breeds do not have a long snout. The pug was one of the original breeds mixed with others to become the English Bulldog.

    Sorry - I didn't realize there were more than 1 variation.

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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,402
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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,189

    MimicMolly said:

    20% Pitbull by AM

    This caught me completely off-guard, because I didn't remember him making a pit bull. So I checked his store, saw Bully, and then remembered that I have some bizarrely specific mental disorder that prevents me from remembering that that is what a pit bull looks like. Every time I picture a pit bull in my head, it's more like a Doberman Pinscher. 

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    Gordig said:

    MimicMolly said:

    20% Pitbull by AM

    This caught me completely off-guard, because I didn't remember him making a pit bull. So I checked his store, saw Bully, and then remembered that I have some bizarrely specific mental disorder that prevents me from remembering that that is what a pit bull looks like. Every time I picture a pit bull in my head, it's more like a Doberman Pinscher. 

    Yes, I used Bully. But in my shaping dials, it says "Pitbull". The same thing with Baxter. It just says "English Bulldog HD".

    I'm used to seeing pitbulls because they're popular where I live, along with Chihuahuas/Chihuahua mixes, and some curly little dogs that are probably Poodle mixes. I've seen a couple of Huskies, but I feel bad for those because I live somewhere very hot..

  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 1,892

    He's a charmer but I have never had much luck with dForce. So I am worried that if I buy him I would end up returning because I couldn't figure out how to make him look good.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723

    Thanks, Catherine.

    I hope Daz will release a pug some day...maybe...

     

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 567
    edited February 2021

    I bought the Bulldog and then yesterday the Poses as they seemed to have some mouth, tongue poses.  Every other image has mouth open or tongue out.

    https://www.daz3d.com/bulldog-poses-for-english-bulldog

    I know I'm lazy but there seems to be no tongue or mouth poses in there :(

    Am I expecting too much?

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,590

    Artini said:

    Thanks, Catherine.

    I hope Daz will release a pug some day...maybe...

     

    well there is https://www.daz3d.com/pugsley-the-stylized-pug 

  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    He's a charmer but I have never had much luck with dForce. So I am worried that if I buy him I would end up returning because I couldn't figure out how to make him look good.

     

    I don't think you will have to much trouble.  The short dforce hair on him is not terrible to dforce but then there are other options.  You can use the version without hair.  Or add the hair but don't simulate it.   I have attached a quick render off my laptop to show the hair that hasn't been simulated. 

     

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    Daventaki said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    He's a charmer but I have never had much luck with dForce. So I am worried that if I buy him I would end up returning because I couldn't figure out how to make him look good.

     

    I don't think you will have to much trouble.  The short dforce hair on him is not terrible to dforce but then there are other options.  You can use the version without hair.  Or add the hair but don't simulate it.   I have attached a quick render off my laptop to show the hair that hasn't been simulated. 

     

    My issue with the fur is that there isn't enough of it...like it's too sparce. A good example is on the feet. This seems to be a huge issue with pretty much all dForce fur. I get it, system resources, but why bother that point. 

    Is there a way to make it more full?  

  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624

    melissastjames said:

    My issue with the fur is that there isn't enough of it...like it's too sparce. A good example is on the feet. This seems to be a huge issue with pretty much all dForce fur. I get it, system resources, but why bother that point. 

    Is there a way to make it more full?  

    Hmm Im sure there is I will have to look what the settings might be.  The issue would be that you wont be able to change like just the feet it would be the whole body (as far as I know).  I will have to get on my desktop with my notes at this time I don't have access to it. Plus it makes testing easier because it takes forever to start/render on this laptop.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288
    edited February 2021

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Artini said:

    Thanks, Catherine.

    I hope Daz will release a pug some day...maybe...

     

    well there is https://www.daz3d.com/pugsley-the-stylized-pug 

    And if a Chug will do, Sparky has one over at Philosopher's Egg. It's based on the Hivewire dog, however. She has something like a dozen different morphs for that base.

    ETA: For the fur, CWRW has LAMH fur sets for the dog and house cat over on Rendo. She'll probably work on Strand-based version once the transition gets sorted. She was beginning to produce thse for the most recent Hivewire models.

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  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 1,892

    Daventaki said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    He's a charmer but I have never had much luck with dForce. So I am worried that if I buy him I would end up returning because I couldn't figure out how to make him look good.

     

    I don't think you will have to much trouble.  The short dforce hair on him is not terrible to dforce but then there are other options.  You can use the version without hair.  Or add the hair but don't simulate it.   I have attached a quick render off my laptop to show the hair that hasn't been simulated. 

     

    That is very nice, Thanks! I wasn't sure if there was a non dForce version. Sold! 

  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 1,892

    Daventaki said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    He's a charmer but I have never had much luck with dForce. So I am worried that if I buy him I would end up returning because I couldn't figure out how to make him look good.

     

    I don't think you will have to much trouble.  The short dforce hair on him is not terrible to dforce but then there are other options.  You can use the version without hair.  Or add the hair but don't simulate it.   I have attached a quick render off my laptop to show the hair that hasn't been simulated. 

     

    That is very nice, Thanks! I wasn't sure if there was a non dForce version. Sold! 

  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 1,892
    edited February 2021

     

    sorry, double post 

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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,402
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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,402
    edited February 2021

    Retired

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,243
    edited February 2021

    playing with bulldog in Carrara smiley

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  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624

    Daventaki said:

    melissastjames said:

    My issue with the fur is that there isn't enough of it...like it's too sparce. A good example is on the feet. This seems to be a huge issue with pretty much all dForce fur. I get it, system resources, but why bother that point. 

    Is there a way to make it more full?  

    Hmm Im sure there is I will have to look what the settings might be.  The issue would be that you wont be able to change like just the feet it would be the whole body (as far as I know).  I will have to get on my desktop with my notes at this time I don't have access to it. Plus it makes testing easier because it takes forever to start/render on this laptop.

    The couple of tips I had didn't make much difference and/or didn't render because it dropped to CPU. Also because of the up close renders I noticed some areas of the feet (specially the toes) have no hair at all...

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Artini said:

    Thanks, Catherine.

    I hope Daz will release a pug some day...maybe...

     

    well there is https://www.daz3d.com/pugsley-the-stylized-pug 

     Yes, I have purchased this one long time ago. Thanks for the remainder...

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited February 2021

    I would prefer to have similar to this one, though...

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited February 2021

    Pugsley - https://www.daz3d.com/pugsley-the-stylized-pug - and the Bulldog...

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited February 2021

    ... and the render of the same scene after dForce simulation.

    Not so much change, but anyway...

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,590

    3DU Pug just needs a less toony texture and fur too IMO to look more real

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