Where's the real Judy Love?
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To be honest, I can't understand how a character can be disimproved so massively, as is the case with Judy Love. The sneak peek picture showed an astonishing character, so real and likelike with a perfect smile and face. But what the final release has become is a complete different character that has nothing to do with that character from the sneak peek pic anymore. But the released version of Judy is not only different, it's definitely worse as well. Her face looks totally exaggerated and even cartoonish. I don't know what happened here, but those "25 revisions" have definitely destroyed this character. I strongly guess that RareStone wanted to optimize her, but the moment when he realized that the "optimization" has gone completely wrong, he noticed that he had overwritten the previous version and then he tried to save what still can be saved in order to avoid to completely drop Judy. RareStone's previous characters were excellent, but with Judy something happened that we cannot understand. RareStone should try to remake her or make a new character similar to the initial version of Judy.
Maybe the character in the early promo is not even a fully developed Daz character? Like half-3D, half-photoshop?
If yes, I would call it a kind of deception of followers and customers. Why else should a PA label a massively photopshopped picture of a character that doesn't exist (and won't exist) as "upcoming character" or "work in progress"? That definitely damages my trust in the PA and/or in his skills. If RareStone wouldn't have released other (very good) characters in the past and if Judy would be his very first character release, I definitely wouldn't buy a single item of this PA anymore in the future.
Don't get me wrong. Judy is not that bad, but the sneak peek picture on which she looked by far better, makes her worse than she actually is. But even without the sneak peek pic, she isn't a very good character and she's significantly worse than Fredda and Kayla, because her face is too cartoonish and exaggerated. If I want a cartoon character, I buy a cartoon character. But if I want a realistic and lifelike one, I expect to get one! For realistic renders, I cannot use Judy with her face at 100% and I need to dial her down to just 50, 60 or 70% and/or need to mix it with face morphs of other characters. So she's not fully useable as a standalone character and is only perfect for mixing and matching.
I actually like Judy the way she turned out, especially her smile; to me, most of Rarestone's characters appear very strongly modelled or 'cartoonish', so I'm used to turning them down a bit for more realism. Although their pretty smiles really work best at 100% I feel. People do have strongly modelled faces IRL, it's just that the 3d models are not quite up to the task yet.
That said, I'm also really, really disappointed by the 'former Judy Love' basically disappearing. In my view, she was a totally different character, and so sweet and natural looking, like so many others pointed out already, that I would just love to see her in the store. So @RareStone, if you read this - could you not perhaps consider releasing that 'former' or 'first' Judy Love as well, just the way we saw her in the promos? As a character by herself?
What I do not understand is: I don't know one single reason why somebody should do any changes to a face which is so perfect like the face of former Judy. It should be self-explaining that any alteration or adjustment on such a perfect face would only make it worse. How can anyone be not able to see or recognize that the face of former Judy doesn't need any adjustments and that it is flawless as it is? How can someone be not satisfied with that face and smash it to dust with 25 insane revisions?
I remember it being said that the figure was modeled after a daughter, maybe that is why the released one was changed.
I don't think so. The product description only reads that Judy is at his own daughter's age. He didn't say she is modeled after his daughter. But even if she was modeled after his own daughter, I don't know why he should do it, but then decide against it later. There is no written rule that a 3D character must not be modeled after a real life person.
But seeing a 3D character that you have modeled after your own daughter, appear on some questionable "artwork"...
Maybe if the character had too good likeness with the daughter Rarestone didn't want that. That is kind of understandable at least for me.
Very valid points made here I think. I didn't know about a likeness to a daughter, except concerning the age which I'd read somewhere. If there has been such a personal likeness, I'd absolutely understand the artist and / or the daughter having second thoughts after a while and deciding to drop the project. People do render disturbing things with the poor dollies. - Nevertheless, I can't help wondering whether some kind of gentle adaptation would not be possible, to make the character into something a little less akin and still keep that shining loveliness that the character possessed. It really was unique, or it felt unique to me. So it's sad to see it lost.
Ok, you are right. That could be an understandable reason. But in the end it's only our very speculation. We don't know if that was actually the reason. And we even don't know if former Judy was actually modeled after his daughter. It could also be the reason I mentioned before that the optimization and adjustments had gone completely wrong and/or he had overwritten the original figure by accident and wasn't able to recreate it. I guess we will never know.
You think she was perfect. Unfortunately for you, your opinion is not an universal truth.
Did you read this thread from the very beginning? If not, just do it. If yes, you should know that I'm not the only one here who thinks that the former version was significantly better than the released version. The majority of people in this thread have the same opinion. That's even the reason why this thread exists at all and it was not started by me.
can be as valid as they wish but whether or not it is as profitable is another matter
I might have even bought the original one myself, I didn't buy this one
Why obviously - do you know for a fact that that was the reason the character was changed or is it merely your opinion and speculative.
The point of the thread has been had and being as the discussion can't be held with any amount of civility we are closing this thread.