tafi who? DAZ has a parent company?

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,781

    Ascania said:

    bytescapes said:

    bytescapes said:

    A couple of weeks ago (I think) there was an element of the main banner in the shop that pointed to the Tafi page in the Unity asset store.

    And today I just got an email from DAZ with the subject "The Unity Spring Sale". Where does it link to? You guessed it, the Tafi page in the Unity asset store.

    It seems reasonable enough for DAZ (or is it Tafi?) to maintain some separation between the two -- they don't want confused customers buying Tafi/Unity assets and finding they don't work in DAZ Studio, or buying DAZ assets and finding they don't work with Unity. I am a little surprised that the copy on the websites often seems to dance around or just ignore the connection between the two companies.

    They also want to be where the customers are. And there's a far better chance to sell to game creators at the Unity or Unreal asset stores, where they already have their accounts, than expecting them to come to the DAZ store here.

    I agree, but then again I am an advocate for not selling assets for game use here at DAZ. I am a gamer and a modder/debeloper and try to keep the communities separate when i came..

  • Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163

    Daz owned by another company...

     

     

     

    what took you all so long to find out...? it's been public knowledge for some time... (seriously, it has... easy to look up public records...)

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,316

    I want to buy some salfwater taffy everytime I see that name but you can't find it in any (American) stores anymore, you have to order it and it's silly expensive as if you ordering filet mignon or something. Guess I could make it myself.

  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,373

    nonesuch00 said:

    I want to buy some salfwater taffy everytime I see that name but you can't find it in any (American) stores anymore, you have to order it and it's silly expensive as if you ordering filet mignon or something. Guess I could make it myself.

     When I was growing up, in the 60s mostly, Dad often tried to make a taffy candy he remembered from his own childhood in the 1930s. I think he never got it at the consistency he wanted..... just very fond memories.... I sure would love some fudge right now..... :)

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066
    edited April 2021

    nonesuch00 said:

    I want to buy some salfwater taffy everytime I see that name but you can't find it in any (American) stores anymore, you have to order it and it's silly expensive as if you ordering filet mignon or something. Guess I could make it myself.

    There is plenty available in the crappy little tourist shops here on Long Island... I think it's a thing with beachie places and amusement parks being required by law to sell that stuff.

    Then again I haven't visited most of the little shops on Main Street in a couple of months, so for all I know they might not have it in stock... also the last time I was tempted to buy it, it was in a little candy shop and it was like $9 for a box (it should be like $5 tops), and I was like "the hell with that... I can just buy a cartridge of acrylic caulk for $4, add some sugar and food color and have the same experience"... 

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Traditionally, one of the main advantages to running something as a seperate but similar business is that if the new business fails spectacularly, it's less likely to directly affect the original company's perception in the marketplace... example: Saturn was actually a division of General Motors.  That said, this is either the third or fourth time that DAZ has done this setting up another company bit, and I don't expect Tafi to be any more sucessful.  Honestly, I don't think DAZ itself would fare very well in the current market if they weren't still being supported by the solid original company base established by the Dan Farr regime before the current management team came in. 

     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited April 2021

    McGyver said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    I want to buy some salfwater taffy everytime I see that name but you can't find it in any (American) stores anymore, you have to order it and it's silly expensive as if you ordering filet mignon or something. Guess I could make it myself.

    There is plenty available in the crappy little tourist shops here on Long Island... I think it's a thing with beachie places and amusement parks being required by law to sell that stuff.

    Then again I haven't visited most of the little shops on Main Street in a couple of months, so for all I know they might not have it in stock... also the last time I was tempted to buy it, it was in a little candy shop and it was like $9 for a box (it should be like $5 tops), and I was like "the hell with that... I can just buy a cartridge of acrylic caulk for $4, add some sugar and food color and have the same experience"... 

    Don't be ridiculous.  Caulking is far easier to chew and comes in that nifty dispenser container that lets you chug it.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,245

    ...shh, college students may start doing that at parties. 

  • jim_doriajim_doria Posts: 128

    It makes perfect sense if they want to try and target a new market, like cell carriers or game development companies. 

    Deals with bigger corporate partners might benefit from a different brand, and a website that was a little less about the stuff hobbyists are interested in.

    They've got this huge catalog of 3D content, and the hobbyist market isn't that big to start with plus it's probably shrinking. The big question everybody there's got to be asking is "How ELSE can we sell this stuff?"

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    Tafi is a silly name.  "The world is made of Tafi" also sounds silly. It reminds me of something you'd hear from a kid's toy company. 

  • LucielLuciel Posts: 475
    edited April 2021

    I always wondered because "DAZ" is the name of an old washing powder brand, so there might be some trademarky something. I guess they're into very different fields. 

    DAZ should put "new energy" on all their promotions though... (it's still around I think)

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  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,057

    Cybersox said:

    Honestly, I don't think DAZ itself would fare very well in the current market if they weren't still being supported by the solid original company base established by the Dan Farr regime before the current management team came in. 

    But many customers of said base are consistently interpreting Daz's actions of the past six months as inimical. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    solis said:

    McGyver, that TAFI post was so hilariously insane...that my ganglia have not stopped spasming....But I Love It laughheartlaugh

     

    I got all the way to Jan Hot Monster....and died. LOL  

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    I feel like Daz has its customers by the sack a bit.... I can't think of another place where I can find low-priced assets that generally look this good. Rendo has some nice products, but they also have a ton of stuff that isn't so nice. Turbo Squid is pricier and lacks compatibility across characters and so on. Add to that the crazy low sales you can get here (it's very tough to find a nice item for free at Rendo, or even for $2-3 like you can find here during the big sale months). So it's my guess that the customers here are kind of addicted (to the sales) and don't have a lot of other options. We may grumble and complain... a lot... but it's much harder to actually quit shopping here. 

     

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    certaintree38 said:

    I feel like Daz has its customers by the sack a bit.... I can't think of another place where I can find low-priced assets that generally look this good. Rendo has some nice products, but they also have a ton of stuff that isn't so nice. Turbo Squid is pricier and lacks compatibility across characters and so on. Add to that the crazy low sales you can get here (it's very tough to find a nice item for free at Rendo, or even for $2-3 like you can find here during the big sale months). So it's my guess that the customers here are kind of addicted (to the sales) and don't have a lot of other options. We may grumble and complain... a lot... but it's much harder to actually quit shopping here. 

     

    I found it easy to quit. LOL. Sure, I put stuff that interests me in the wishlist, but won't buy it. Not right now I won't ;)  My discretionary income has been going to Renderosity. 

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    AllenArt said:

    certaintree38 said:

    I feel like Daz has its customers by the sack a bit.... I can't think of another place where I can find low-priced assets that generally look this good. Rendo has some nice products, but they also have a ton of stuff that isn't so nice. Turbo Squid is pricier and lacks compatibility across characters and so on. Add to that the crazy low sales you can get here (it's very tough to find a nice item for free at Rendo, or even for $2-3 like you can find here during the big sale months). So it's my guess that the customers here are kind of addicted (to the sales) and don't have a lot of other options. We may grumble and complain... a lot... but it's much harder to actually quit shopping here. 

     

    I found it easy to quit. LOL. Sure, I put stuff that interests me in the wishlist, but won't buy it. Not right now I won't ;)  My discretionary income has been going to Renderosity. 

    Maybe it's just me then. I can almost never find anything I want at Rendo, aside from a few clothing makers who are just amazing. This is especially true of environments. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited April 2021

    certaintree38 said:

    AllenArt said:

    certaintree38 said:

    I feel like Daz has its customers by the sack a bit.... I can't think of another place where I can find low-priced assets that generally look this good. Rendo has some nice products, but they also have a ton of stuff that isn't so nice. Turbo Squid is pricier and lacks compatibility across characters and so on. Add to that the crazy low sales you can get here (it's very tough to find a nice item for free at Rendo, or even for $2-3 like you can find here during the big sale months). So it's my guess that the customers here are kind of addicted (to the sales) and don't have a lot of other options. We may grumble and complain... a lot... but it's much harder to actually quit shopping here. 

     

    I found it easy to quit. LOL. Sure, I put stuff that interests me in the wishlist, but won't buy it. Not right now I won't ;)  My discretionary income has been going to Renderosity. 

    Maybe it's just me then. I can almost never find anything I want at Rendo, aside from a few clothing makers who are just amazing. This is especially true of environments. 

    I do get a lot of environments. Tim82 and santuziy78 (sp) make some nice stuff :) Plus, I like 1971s whimsical buildings and Nursoda's fantasy creatures :)

     

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  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    AllenArt said:

    certaintree38 said:

    AllenArt said:

    certaintree38 said:

    I feel like Daz has its customers by the sack a bit.... I can't think of another place where I can find low-priced assets that generally look this good. Rendo has some nice products, but they also have a ton of stuff that isn't so nice. Turbo Squid is pricier and lacks compatibility across characters and so on. Add to that the crazy low sales you can get here (it's very tough to find a nice item for free at Rendo, or even for $2-3 like you can find here during the big sale months). So it's my guess that the customers here are kind of addicted (to the sales) and don't have a lot of other options. We may grumble and complain... a lot... but it's much harder to actually quit shopping here. 

     

    I found it easy to quit. LOL. Sure, I put stuff that interests me in the wishlist, but won't buy it. Not right now I won't ;)  My discretionary income has been going to Renderosity. 

    Maybe it's just me then. I can almost never find anything I want at Rendo, aside from a few clothing makers who are just amazing. This is especially true of environments. 

    I do get a lot of environments. Tim82 and santuziy78 (sp) make some nice stuff :) Plus, I like 1971s whimsical buildings and Nursoda's fantasy creatures :)

    I do like Tim82 and Santuziy78! Forgot about them. Just picked up some Stantuziy stuff recently. But 15% off is not going to do it for me, so I've been waiting on Tim82 to go on a deeper sale. 

     

     

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    certaintree38 said:

    I do like Tim82 and Santuziy78! Forgot about them. Just picked up some Stantuziy stuff recently. But 15% off is not going to do it for me, so I've been waiting on Tim82 to go on a deeper sale. 

     

    With some vendors you need to wait for the semi-annual 50% off everything sale. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,316

    McGyver said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    I want to buy some salfwater taffy everytime I see that name but you can't find it in any (American) stores anymore, you have to order it and it's silly expensive as if you ordering filet mignon or something. Guess I could make it myself.

    There is plenty available in the crappy little tourist shops here on Long Island... I think it's a thing with beachie places and amusement parks being required by law to sell that stuff.

    Then again I haven't visited most of the little shops on Main Street in a couple of months, so for all I know they might not have it in stock... also the last time I was tempted to buy it, it was in a little candy shop and it was like $9 for a box (it should be like $5 tops), and I was like "the hell with that... I can just buy a cartridge of acrylic caulk for $4, add some sugar and food color and have the same experience"... 

    LOL, that's about right except I remember it at the Jacksonville Beaches, not Long Island. It's sort of good when you're chewing it in a Coney Island amusement park situation at night with lots of flashing neon lights and carnival music causing you to spaz out while you chew. 

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    Khai-J-Bach said:

    Daz owned by another company...

     

     

     

    what took you all so long to find out...? it's been public knowledge for some time... (seriously, it has... easy to look up public records...)

     

    Who sits and thinks Gee I wonder who owns DAZ and actually goes and does a goog search for it? I know I don't, I have better things to do with my time, like making characters and rendering them.

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    kyoto kid said:

    ...shh, college students may start doing that at parties. 

    Yeah, the same ones eating Tide Pods...

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    Malandar said:

    Khai-J-Bach said:

    Daz owned by another company...

     

     

     

    what took you all so long to find out...? it's been public knowledge for some time... (seriously, it has... easy to look up public records...)

     

    Who sits and thinks Gee I wonder who owns DAZ and actually goes and does a goog search for it? I know I don't, I have better things to do with my time, like making characters and rendering them.

    Yeah, but when the Illuminati wombat hybrid super-soldiers come for your liver enzymes, you'll be sorry you didn't Google who owns DAZ or spend time rearranging the letters of James Thornton's name to prove he is actually John Ottermans, Jean Mothsnort and Josh Tom Tanner... (but not Jan Hot Monster)... And you'd also be unaware of a startling new development I discovered today... Thornton has a mustache again... and a beard!

    Well at least his avatar does over at Tafi...

    Not such a waste of time after all... was it, huh?

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310
    Malandar said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...shh, college students may start doing that at parties. 

    Yeah, the same ones eating Tide Pods...

    So none of them? But they'll make a joke about it on twitter and we'll get a bunch of scaremongering articles aimed at gullible boomers :)
  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    I miss those days.  

    Cybersox said:

    ...supported by the solid original company base established by the Dan Farr regime before the current management team came in. 

     

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    jakiblue said:

    I miss those days.  

    Cybersox said:

    ...supported by the solid original company base established by the Dan Farr regime before the current management team came in. 

     

    me too :( 

  • Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163

    Malandar said:

    Khai-J-Bach said:

    Daz owned by another company...

     

     

     

    what took you all so long to find out...? it's been public knowledge for some time... (seriously, it has... easy to look up public records...)

     

    Who sits and thinks Gee I wonder who owns DAZ and actually goes and does a goog search for it? I know I don't, I have better things to do with my time, like making characters and rendering them.

    well... came up in an discussion a few years back about is this market sustainable at the prices things were being driven down to..... and the reason why I'm out of the market (the whole make it cheaper cheaper CHEAPER  thing... I can earn more money doing a normal job... but anyway...)

     

  • Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163

    McGyver said:

    Malandar said:

    Khai-J-Bach said:

    Daz owned by another company...

     

     

     

    what took you all so long to find out...? it's been public knowledge for some time... (seriously, it has... easy to look up public records...)

     

    Who sits and thinks Gee I wonder who owns DAZ and actually goes and does a goog search for it? I know I don't, I have better things to do with my time, like making characters and rendering them.

    Yeah, but when the Illuminati wombat hybrid super-soldiers come for your liver enzymes, you'll be sorry you didn't Google who owns DAZ or spend time rearranging the letters of James Thornton's name to prove he is actually John Ottermans, Jean Mothsnort and Josh Tom Tanner... (but not Jan Hot Monster)... And you'd also be unaware of a startling new development I discovered today... Thornton has a mustache again... and a beard!

    Well at least his avatar does over at Tafi...

    Not such a waste of time after all... was it, huh?

    aand you've been smoking something right?

     

    no conspiracy's involved. was a simple question a few years back, that led to a google search. no ulterior motives involved, just a answer found.

     

  • Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163

    and HAAAANG ON

     

    I'm a conspiracy nut for once running a search on who owns daz.... in a thread that's surprised Daz has an owner????

     

    surreal much?

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    j cade said:

    Malandar said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...shh, college students may start doing that at parties. 

    Yeah, the same ones eating Tide Pods...

    So none of them? But they'll make a joke about it on twitter and we'll get a bunch of scaremongering articles aimed at gullible boomers :)

    There wouldn't be warnings on Tide pod packages saying not to eat them if someone didn't do it. Remember warning labels are there because someone did what it is warning you not to do, and what does someone's age have to do with anything. I mean I am not a boomer, but even if I was what has that got to do with anything in this conversation, stop trying to start an argument where none exists.

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