Vintage Carriages 1 - Barouche & Police Wagon

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,864

    Merlin Studios said:

    Would something like this be of any use?

     

    That looks great! Where can we get it? 

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,816

    Merlin Studios said:

    Would something like this be of any use?

    Definitely.

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 427
    edited May 2021

    Merlin Studios said:

    Would something like this be of any use?

    Looks good but there should be a bridle around the head with reins from the bit leading back through the loops  so that the driver can 'steer' the horse from his seat.

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,533

    The ancient Western Coaches have the sort of rig we could use, but it's only a portion of a single figure that includes everything, even the horses (low res, not rigged, only morph)

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,392

    NorthOf45 said:

    The ancient Western Coaches have the sort of rig we could use, but it's only a portion of a single figure that includes everything, even the horses (low res, not rigged, only morph)

    I have Western Coaches, but I think a carriage that attached to a DAZ Horse 2 harness would be more useful to most people.

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,481

    tsroemi said:

    Merlin Studios said:

    Would something like this be of any use?

     

    That looks great! Where can we get it? 

    We're looking to get it added into something that will work for all of them.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,533

    Havos said:

    NorthOf45 said:

    The ancient Western Coaches have the sort of rig we could use, but it's only a portion of a single figure that includes everything, even the horses (low res, not rigged, only morph)

    I have Western Coaches, but I think a carriage that attached to a DAZ Horse 2 harness would be more useful to most people.

    Undoubtedly, I was just pointing out the kind of rig we could use. The amount of work required to extract, shape and rig those parts would be prohibitive for all but the most adept, and it couldn't be shared. Maybe @Faveral could be coaxed back to work on something. It's been almost three years since his last product.

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    There is this, and it very recently got an Iray update:

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab-iray-textures-add-on

     

    And there is this for two horses:

    https://www.daz3d.com/horse-drawn-carriage-for-daz-horse-2

     

    As you can see on the attached images, only the "sticks" and in case of the bigger carriage, the harness too, can be displayed. It may open some possibilities for kitbashing. By the way, the bigger carriage loads with the pair of Daz 2 Horses in their harnesses already.

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,864

    Isn't this https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-wagon the harness set @Merlin Studios mentioned? I've just realized it's in a set I've had wishlisted for ages already. Another good reason to get it finally I guess.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,864

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    tsroemi said:

    Merlin Studios said:

    Would something like this be of any use?

     

    That looks great! Where can we get it? 

    We're looking to get it added into something that will work for all of them.

    That would be the best solution of course, thanks Jack!

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Hivewire had a Gypsy wagon which had a very decent harness, which I managed to kitbash onto a different vehicle without that much trouble. But I don't think it's made the transition to Rendo yet, and was for the Hivewire Horse in any case.

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    Fishtales said:

    A Barouche doesn't have poles only leather straps.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Prince_William_of_Wales_&_Prince_Henry_of_Wales.jpg

    Her Majesty might disagree with your statement:

     

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,533

    You need something rigid for the carriage to push against when decelerating, or else it will bump the horses in the butt.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    Fishtales said:

    A Barouche doesn't have poles only leather straps.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Prince_William_of_Wales_&_Prince_Henry_of_Wales.jpg

    Googling Barouche and looking at the pictures shown then seems to indicate that this statement isn't 100% true.

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,161
    edited May 2021

    Looks like there is a centre pole which goes between the two horses.

    Post edited by Fishtales on
  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,276

    tsroemi said:

    Isn't this https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-wagon the harness set @Merlin Studios mentioned? I've just realized it's in a set I've had wishlisted for ages already. Another good reason to get it finally I guess.

    I own this and need it for renders I have been doing! It's perfect. And for those who want it, it is on sale today. 

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,864

    memcneil70 said:

    tsroemi said:

    Isn't this https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-wagon the harness set @Merlin Studios mentioned? I've just realized it's in a set I've had wishlisted for ages already. Another good reason to get it finally I guess.

    I own this and need it for renders I have been doing! It's perfect. And for those who want it, it is on sale today. 

    Good to know, thanks! And I saw it in the sale today already. I'm just holding back on it a bit still because Jack sounded like they'd be creating a new multiple-purpose harness thingy pretty soon. Might still get the one with cart though, the cart is also really well made it seems.

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,481

    It will be based on Merlin's.. so feel free to just pick up now.. we don't have an ETA

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,864

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    It will be based on Merlin's.. so feel free to just pick up now.. we don't have an ETA

    Great, I just did! 

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    It will be based on Merlin's.. so feel free to just pick up now.. we don't have an ETA

    Could you also get that PA to give us a folded down version of the soft top for the Barouche? No need to make it movable, just plain folded down and resting behind the seat. Not everyone wants to travel in sunlight with the top blocking the view to their freshly tailored clothes... wink

  • 3dLux3dLux Posts: 1,231

    maikdecker said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    It will be based on Merlin's.. so feel free to just pick up now.. we don't have an ETA

    Could you also get that PA to give us a folded down version of the soft top for the Barouche? No need to make it movable, just plain folded down and resting behind the seat. Not everyone wants to travel in sunlight with the top blocking the view to their freshly tailored clothes... wink

    +1 yes

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,864

    3dLux said:

    maikdecker said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    It will be based on Merlin's.. so feel free to just pick up now.. we don't have an ETA

    Could you also get that PA to give us a folded down version of the soft top for the Barouche? No need to make it movable, just plain folded down and resting behind the seat. Not everyone wants to travel in sunlight with the top blocking the view to their freshly tailored clothes... wink

    +1 yes

    +1, that would be lovely! 

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,487

    Merlin Studios said:

    Would something like this be of any use?

    Oh yes, It looks good!

  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,099
    edited May 2021

    watchdog79 said:

    There is this, and it very recently got an Iray update:

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab-iray-textures-add-on

     

    And there is this for two horses:

    https://www.daz3d.com/horse-drawn-carriage-for-daz-horse-2

     

    As you can see on the attached images, only the "sticks" and in case of the bigger carriage, the harness too, can be displayed. It may open some possibilities for kitbashing. By the way, the bigger carriage loads with the pair of Daz 2 Horses in their harnesses already.

     Modeling a harness is not so simple, rigging it is a hell job. I did it in the past, for those who follow me at Content Paradise before I come here in 2010. By the way, the Doctor Cab has new Iray textures, yes! May be the Tilbury and the Hearse soon too. And now, I work on a little something for the DAZ Horse 2 which will be compatible with my range of carts but it is still under under UV's and not yet rigged. Here some WIP render.

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,864

    3djoji said:

    watchdog79 said:

    There is this, and it very recently got an Iray update:

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab-iray-textures-add-on

     

    And there is this for two horses:

    https://www.daz3d.com/horse-drawn-carriage-for-daz-horse-2

     

    As you can see on the attached images, only the "sticks" and in case of the bigger carriage, the harness too, can be displayed. It may open some possibilities for kitbashing. By the way, the bigger carriage loads with the pair of Daz 2 Horses in their harnesses already.

     Modeling a harness is not so simple, rigging it is a hell job. I did it in the past, for those who follow me at Content Paradise before I come here in 2010. By the way, the Doctor Cab has new Iray textures, yes! May be the Tilbury and the Hearse soon too. And now, I work on a little something for the DAZ Horse 2 which will be compatible with my range of carts but it is still under under UV's and not yet rigged. Here some WIP render.

    That looks really good to me! Hopefully it'll be in the store soon.  

  • It is good and encouraging that they're planning on making a harness package that can be used with a set of different carriages.  Though, oddly, with me, often when I'm looking at horse drawn carraiges, I'm usually looking at them from the standpoint of "Okay, how do I remove those horse pole thingies so I can then kit-bash this carriage into a Steampunk-styled motorvehicle?"  So, in my case, I was actually happy with the fact that these new ones didn't have horse-harness stuff integrated into them, which I'd have had to remove.

    That said, I've not actually done any of that sort of conversion-to-motorcar kit-bashing yet.  Merely thought about it.  :D

  • 3dLux3dLux Posts: 1,231
    edited May 2021

    3djoji said:

    watchdog79 said:

    There is this, and it very recently got an Iray update:

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab

    https://www.daz3d.com/doctor-cab-iray-textures-add-on

     

    And there is this for two horses:

    https://www.daz3d.com/horse-drawn-carriage-for-daz-horse-2

     

    As you can see on the attached images, only the "sticks" and in case of the bigger carriage, the harness too, can be displayed. It may open some possibilities for kitbashing. By the way, the bigger carriage loads with the pair of Daz 2 Horses in their harnesses already.

     Modeling a harness is not so simple, rigging it is a hell job. I did it in the past, for those who follow me at Content Paradise before I come here in 2010. By the way, the Doctor Cab has new Iray textures, yes! May be the Tilbury and the Hearse soon too. And now, I work on a little something for the DAZ Horse 2 which will be compatible with my range of carts but it is still under under UV's and not yet rigged. Here some WIP render.

    Looks really good, @3djoji  yesyes

    Snapped up the Iray for the Doctor Cab and will get the Iray Add-ons for the Tilbury Mood and Hearse when they come out smiley

    Watching this thread as well wink

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  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,099
    edited May 2021

    3dLux said:

    Watching this thread as well wink

    If someone watches, I put regularly some Work In Progress pictures of the job. The Harness is UVed and the Surfaces are now attributed and checked in Daz Studio using the Daz Uber default shaders. The next step is the texturing with Substance Painter. 

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  • 3dLux3dLux Posts: 1,231

    3djoji said:

    3dLux said:

    Watching this thread as well wink

    If someone watches, I put regularly some Work In Progress pictures of the job. The Harness is UVed and the Surfaces are now attributed and checked in Daz Studio using the Daz Uber default shader. The next step is the texutring un Substance Painter. 

    WooHoo!  Great work @3djoji!!  yesyes  Looking forward to the results yesyes

    Apropos of nothing I got the carriages when I was doing Les Miserables fanart (they also work for a Regency setting enlightened )

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