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2021 Sales thread cont: Report Issues Here "There's Always Another Sale™"

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,879

    maikdecker said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    maikdecker said:

    PC+ monthly coupons don't work on "$ 5.- select..." deals, even though only "other deals" are excluded. Might be nitpicking, but the monthly coupons aren't "deals" per se... seems DAZ invented just another loophole to not fulfill what PC+ advertisement promises, like they did already with "Fast Grab" products.

    It says that the discount does not stack with other deals.

     

    I know.. but a coupon isn't what I would see as a "deal" but something that I have already previously paid. And this practice of DAZ to make uneligible for the PC+ coupons seems to be broadened... which makes my purse grow tighter as result.

    I agree with this, the PC+ coupons are not 'deals' but paid for in advance via the membership. So they should be applicable whereever we like, especially seeing that they do have quite a few restrictions in themselves. Maybe we need to file tickets about this, to encourage revision of this policy? Or could the mods take it up with DAZ? 

  • ioonrxoonioonrxoon Posts: 894

    The Wartime Christmas banner leads to an error page. I guess the deadline for it ended they forgot to remove the banner.

  • SempieSempie Posts: 658
    edited August 2021

    tsroemi said:

    maikdecker said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    maikdecker said:

    PC+ monthly coupons don't work on "$ 5.- select..." deals, even though only "other deals" are excluded. Might be nitpicking, but the monthly coupons aren't "deals" per se... seems DAZ invented just another loophole to not fulfill what PC+ advertisement promises, like they did already with "Fast Grab" products.

    It says that the discount does not stack with other deals.

     

    I know.. but a coupon isn't what I would see as a "deal" but something that I have already previously paid. And this practice of DAZ to make uneligible for the PC+ coupons seems to be broadened... which makes my purse grow tighter as result.

    I agree with this, the PC+ coupons are not 'deals' but paid for in advance via the membership. So they should be applicable whereever we like, especially seeing that they do have quite a few restrictions in themselves. Maybe we need to file tickets about this, to encourage revision of this policy? Or could the mods take it up with DAZ? 

    Agree. Since this month, I have noticed a decline in the value of being a PC member, with PC items on clearance 'sale' even going up in price. A Petipat Van, the Car Ranger, went up from its regular PC price of $1,99 to $5,99.

    And now there seems to be a trend of only being able to apply the coupons on full priced items.

    Makes me wonder about the benefits of being a PC member.

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,879

    Sempie said:

    tsroemi said:

    maikdecker said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    maikdecker said:

    PC+ monthly coupons don't work on "$ 5.- select..." deals, even though only "other deals" are excluded. Might be nitpicking, but the monthly coupons aren't "deals" per se... seems DAZ invented just another loophole to not fulfill what PC+ advertisement promises, like they did already with "Fast Grab" products.

    It says that the discount does not stack with other deals.

     

    I know.. but a coupon isn't what I would see as a "deal" but something that I have already previously paid. And this practice of DAZ to make uneligible for the PC+ coupons seems to be broadened... which makes my purse grow tighter as result.

    I agree with this, the PC+ coupons are not 'deals' but paid for in advance via the membership. So they should be applicable whereever we like, especially seeing that they do have quite a few restrictions in themselves. Maybe we need to file tickets about this, to encourage revision of this policy? Or could the mods take it up with DAZ? 

    Agree. Since this month, I have noticed a decline in the value of being a PC member, with PC items on clearance 'sale' even going up in price. A Petipat Van, the Car Ranger, went up from its regular PC price of $1,99 to $5,99.

    And now there seems to be a trend of only being able to apply the coupons on full priced items.

    Makes me wonder about the benefits of being a PC member.

    You know, this could actually be due to the car being in that last 'clearance sale' category still, the one that was located on the war christmas sales page. It's not accessible anymore but I have items in my wishlist that are still tagged with the 5.99 price from that category. There are also lots of other former clearance sale pages still swarming across the internet, although the store doesn't show them anymore. Some items on these are still on sale also, some are not. So, you might want to keep an eye on that car, it could be just dropping back to its normal PC+ price in a while. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,839

    Sempie said:

    Agree. Since this month, I have noticed a decline in the value of being a PC member, with PC items on clearance 'sale' even going up in price. A Petipat Van went up from $1,99 to $5,99.

    And now there seems to be a trend of only being able to apply the coupons on full priced items.

    Makes me wonder about the benefits of being a PC member.

    A PC+ subscription used to be a no-brainer. Now, it is considerably less obvious that there is benefit there. It depends a lot on how cheap you can pick up a renewal. At full price, or even 50% off, it is not as obvious now.

    • Some people see little value in the freebies. Freebies overwhelmingly consist of plants, which some people like and others have no use for. Some freebies are ridiculously and unnecessarily high in polygon count.
    • The coupons are "invalid" much more often now.
    • I think PC+ products, especially clothing, often lack the quality of a good PA product. I buy very few PC+ items. Their main benefit is to trigger a discount on a sale of something else that requires "any new" item.
    • What's left to benefit from? 30% discount on DOs? Even that seems to be restricted lately with some of the sales, where a fixed percent off seems to override the PC+ 30% rather than stack with it. The 30% used to be handy to reduce the price of new DO characters and bundles, but the incentive to purchase those has dropped dramatically with the discovery that every character added to the library, slows down loading ANY character of that generation.

    It's sad to see all this happening to PC+.

  • SempieSempie Posts: 658
    edited August 2021
     

    You know, this could actually be due to the car being in that last 'clearance sale' category still, the one that was located on the war christmas sales page. It's not accessible anymore but I have items in my wishlist that are still tagged with the 5.99 price from that category. There are also lots of other former clearance sale pages still swarming across the internet, although the store doesn't show them anymore. Some items on these are still on sale also, some are not. So, you might want to keep an eye on that car, it could be just dropping back to its normal PC+ price in a while. 

    And you don't find items going UP in price during a sale slightly odd?

    Especially when it may be the last chance to buy...?

     

    Besides, according to the price history graph, the increase in price is very recent. As in Juli 29th.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Sempie said:

     

    You know, this could actually be due to the car being in that last 'clearance sale' category still, the one that was located on the war christmas sales page. It's not accessible anymore but I have items in my wishlist that are still tagged with the 5.99 price from that category. There are also lots of other former clearance sale pages still swarming across the internet, although the store doesn't show them anymore. Some items on these are still on sale also, some are not. So, you might want to keep an eye on that car, it could be just dropping back to its normal PC+ price in a while. 

    And you don't find items going UP in price during a sale slightly odd?

    Especially when it may be the last chance to buy...?

    Besides, according to the price history graph, the increase in price is very recent. As in Juli 29th.

     It's logical to increase the price when it's the last chance to buy it wink

  • SempieSempie Posts: 658
     

     It's logical to increase the price when it's the last chance to buy it wink

    Yeah, especially when you have an unlimited amount of copies to sell. They might go out of stock....

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,879

    Sempie said:

     

    You know, this could actually be due to the car being in that last 'clearance sale' category still, the one that was located on the war christmas sales page. It's not accessible anymore but I have items in my wishlist that are still tagged with the 5.99 price from that category. There are also lots of other former clearance sale pages still swarming across the internet, although the store doesn't show them anymore. Some items on these are still on sale also, some are not. So, you might want to keep an eye on that car, it could be just dropping back to its normal PC+ price in a while. 

    And you don't find items going UP in price during a sale slightly odd?

    Especially when it may be the last chance to buy...?

     

    Besides, according to the price history graph, the increase in price is very recent. As in Juli 29th.

    Oh I absolutely find this odd, and not just slightly so. But I figured that maybe those sale prices were meant for non-PC members. That, of course, begs the question why then the PC members are sort of 'punished' so that others are getting a better deal. Maybe we were supposed to just enjoy the reduced prices on the other items in the sales, I don't bleedin know. The recent sales strategy is a mystery to me. 

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,900

    Sempie said:

     

    You know, this could actually be due to the car being in that last 'clearance sale' category still, the one that was located on the war christmas sales page. It's not accessible anymore but I have items in my wishlist that are still tagged with the 5.99 price from that category. There are also lots of other former clearance sale pages still swarming across the internet, although the store doesn't show them anymore. Some items on these are still on sale also, some are not. So, you might want to keep an eye on that car, it could be just dropping back to its normal PC+ price in a while. 

    And you don't find items going UP in price during a sale slightly odd?

    Especially when it may be the last chance to buy...?

     

    Besides, according to the price history graph, the increase in price is very recent. As in Juli 29th.

    What was the release date of the products in question? At least some products went up in price simply because it was the end of the 2 week introductory discount. 

  • mr clammr clam Posts: 707

    barbult said:

    A PC+ subscription used to be a no-brainer. Now, it is considerably less obvious that there is benefit there. It depends a lot on how cheap you can pick up a renewal. At full price, or even 50% off, it is not as obvious now.

    • Some people see little value in the freebies. Freebies overwhelmingly consist of plants, which some people like and others have no use for. Some freebies are ridiculously and unnecessarily high in polygon count.
    • The coupons are "invalid" much more often now.
    • I think PC+ products, especially clothing, often lack the quality of a good PA product. I buy very few PC+ items. Their main benefit is to trigger a discount on a sale of something else that requires "any new" item.
    • What's left to benefit from? 30% discount on DOs? Even that seems to be restricted lately with some of the sales, where a fixed percent off seems to override the PC+ 30% rather than stack with it. The 30% used to be handy to reduce the price of new DO characters and bundles, but the incentive to purchase those has dropped dramatically with the discovery that every character added to the library, slows down loading ANY character of that generation.

    It's sad to see all this happening to PC+.

    My thoughts exactly! 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    I noticed with the staff picks that the prices for every item (also the old ones) in the bundles was way higher than price history showed at the highest and the bundle price was a few dollars less than the sum of these new prices.

  • SempieSempie Posts: 658
    edited August 2021

    Charlie Judge said:

    Sempie said:

     

    You know, this could actually be due to the car being in that last 'clearance sale' category still, the one that was located on the war christmas sales page. It's not accessible anymore but I have items in my wishlist that are still tagged with the 5.99 price from that category. There are also lots of other former clearance sale pages still swarming across the internet, although the store doesn't show them anymore. Some items on these are still on sale also, some are not. So, you might want to keep an eye on that car, it could be just dropping back to its normal PC+ price in a while. 

    And you don't find items going UP in price during a sale slightly odd?

    Especially when it may be the last chance to buy...?

     

    Besides, according to the price history graph, the increase in price is very recent. As in Juli 29th. Even yearlong freebie items suddenly went up to $2,99 during this clearance sale.

    What was the release date of the products in question? At least some products went up in price simply because it was the end of the 2 week introductory discount. 

    They are ancient clearance products. The Petipet Car Ranger I mentioned has been in the store since 2013. And has been priced $1,99 for PC members for years at a row.

    There's even some longtime freebies that suddenly cost money during this sale. At a "minus infinity" discount. (No, I already got Hexagon for free over a decade ago, but it is an indication how strange it all is. It's one big clearance category, and no matter if the product was cheaper before, or even completely free; they all cost $1,99, $2,99 or $5,99, depending on the date of the start of that sale category. Because of some weird algorythm that makes no sense at all. One category fits all.

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  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited August 2021

    Saba'a AlKair Bundle ($20.97) is the most expensive "PC+ item" available cheeky

    https://www.daz3d.com/platinum-club-items

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,839

    Noah LGP said:

    Saba'a AlKair Bundle ($20.97) is the most expensive "PC+ item" available cheeky

    https://www.daz3d.com/platinum-club-items

    But it was free less than a month ago. That's inflation!

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,900

    barbult said:

    Noah LGP said:

    Saba'a AlKair Bundle ($20.97) is the most expensive "PC+ item" available cheeky

    https://www.daz3d.com/platinum-club-items

    But it was free less than a month ago. That's inflation!

    I got it free as part of the Grimes free bundle that was available in March 2020

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited August 2021

    Is it normal ? "DO NOT ENABLE"

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,839

    Noah LGP said:

    Is it normal ? "DO NOT ENABLE"

    Yes. It was explained to me that it means that this is not a separate product to be enabled for purchase in the store. It is a bonus item only included with other purchased products. 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,187

    Fantasy Tent textures doesn't have a required product, nor can I find a product for which these textures would exist as an add-on. Was the base product supposed to get released today? 

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,671

    Gordig said:

    Fantasy Tent textures doesn't have a required product, nor can I find a product for which these textures would exist as an add-on. Was the base product supposed to get released today

    Sounds like they released the textures before the product, will enquire.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,479

    Cris Palomino said:

    Gordig said:

    Fantasy Tent textures doesn't have a required product, nor can I find a product for which these textures would exist as an add-on. Was the base product supposed to get released today

    Sounds like they released the textures before the product, will enquire.

    That doesn't seem to make any sense, why would Daz do that. 

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,671

    scorpio said:

    Cris Palomino said:

    Gordig said:

    Fantasy Tent textures doesn't have a required product, nor can I find a product for which these textures would exist as an add-on. Was the base product supposed to get released today

    Sounds like they released the textures before the product, will enquire.

    That doesn't seem to make any sense, why would Daz do that. 

    It's usually a scheduling error.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,143

     

    You mean for Daz STUDIO, right? ;)

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,143

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-steelwitch-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81-female says it's a bundle, but doesn't say what's in it. Products that are supposed to be part of it are not marked as being part of a bundle.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,833

    Ati said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-steelwitch-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81-female says it's a bundle, but doesn't say what's in it. Products that are supposed to be part of it are not marked as being part of a bundle.

    It does say which products are included in “what’s included” section. However I agree the bundle doesn’t seem to be setup correctly.
  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,671
    edited August 2021

    Ati said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-steelwitch-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81-female says it's a bundle, but doesn't say what's in it. Products that are supposed to be part of it are not marked as being part of a bundle.

    This Bundle includes:

    Will report on the latter. Plus add the thumbnails to the bundle.

     

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  • sandraylnsandrayln Posts: 42

    Cris Palomino said:

    Ati said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-steelwitch-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81-female says it's a bundle, but doesn't say what's in it. Products that are supposed to be part of it are not marked as being part of a bundle.

    This Bundle includes:

    Will report on the latter. Plus add the thumbnails to the bundle.

    And if you purchase it, it only actually gives you the additional items with the bundle itself, not the base outfit and outfit add-on.

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,186
    scorpio said:

    Cris Palomino said:

    Gordig said:

    Fantasy Tent textures doesn't have a required product, nor can I find a product for which these textures would exist as an add-on. Was the base product supposed to get released today

    Sounds like they released the textures before the product, will enquire.

    That doesn't seem to make any sense, why would Daz do that. 

    It's happened several times recently. Poison Love Outfit (screwing up the Kiko 8.1 Rising Star Bundle release sale), Kira Outfit, and Fantasy Tent, to name the examples coming to mind. Potential causes include incompetence, negligence, or being overworked. Whatever the case, it makes Daz seem unprofessional and can cost them sales (over a hundred dollars worth of sales in the case of the Kiko bundles, since the error wasn't corrected and subsequent bundle discounts depended on purchasing the first).
  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,118

    Gordig said:

    Fantasy Tent textures doesn't have a required product, nor can I find a product for which these textures would exist as an add-on. Was the base product supposed to get released today? 

    It seems it's a texture add-on for this previously released set: https://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-tents

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,718

    sandrayln said:

    Cris Palomino said:

    Ati said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-steelwitch-bundle-for-genesis-8-and-81-female says it's a bundle, but doesn't say what's in it. Products that are supposed to be part of it are not marked as being part of a bundle.

    This Bundle includes:

    Will report on the latter. Plus add the thumbnails to the bundle.

    And if you purchase it, it only actually gives you the additional items with the bundle itself, not the base outfit and outfit add-on.

    I was expecting that - it probably means that the individual products are not associated with the bundle so they don't appear in the auto-geenrated list of parts (the one with thumbnails), the bundle isn't linked from the separate products, and there are no downloads for the separate products in the bundle. I would hope daz will be able to fix the linkages and refresh existing orders once they are on, so please hang on to give the general solution a chance before opening a ticket.

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